2ndbendbeerhut Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 https://ipswichwitches.co/ipswich-v-sheffield-raceday-preview/ oh look , Holder not there, strange that.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 It's a bleeding joke!! GB has international priority for Thursday and Holder is prioritising a REARRANGED polish meeting on supposed travel grounds Should be no facility for this CHOICE 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, 2ndbendbeerhut said: https://ipswichwitches.co/ipswich-v-sheffield-raceday-preview/ oh look , Holder not there, strange that.... That's handy for Ipswich AGAIN! First having r/r for Klindt not Allen against Lynn, now this, lucky, lucky, lucky! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 1 minute ago, 2ndbendbeerhut said: https://ipswichwitches.co/ipswich-v-sheffield-raceday-preview/ oh look , Holder not there, strange that.... Rain off time...? It says he isn't available due to a rearranged fixture in Poland... Surely that means the UK have priority? Isn't that a 28 day ban if he doesn't ride over here? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: It's a bleeding joke!! GB has international priority for Thursday and Holder is prioritising a REARRANGED polish meeting on supposed travel grounds Should be no facility for this CHOICE Maybe Jack has been given permission to ride in Poland? Seem to remember him being allowed to do so before..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted May 24, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, mikebv said: Rain off time...? It says he isn't available due to a rearranged fixture in Poland... Surely that means the UK have priority? Isn't that a 28 day ban if he doesn't ride over here? exactly but i wonder how more fixtures he will miss so R/R for 4 weeks will come in handy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 And this is exactly why hardly anyone takes speedway as a serious sport. One big fat farce after another. And they wonder why fans keep walking away. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted May 24, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, Trees said: That's handy for Ipswich AGAIN! First having r/r for Klindt not Allen against Lynn, now this, lucky, lucky, lucky! i said at the time that no club should be given any facility ( inc Ipswich) but now the horse has bolted .... Same goes for possible R/R for Stewart, shouldnt be allowed, theres enough riders who could replace him in the 1-7. How long is the club prepared to wait ? Redcar applied for his visa in December, so another 5 months for his Witches one then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 8 minutes ago, Baldyman said: And this is exactly why hardly anyone takes speedway as a serious sport. One big fat farce after another. And they wonder why fans keep walking away. When you say hardly anyone takes it seriously, I presume you include promoters in that too? They've basically given up haven't they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted May 24, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 1 minute ago, mikebv said: When you say hardly anyone takes it seriously, I presume you include promoters in that too? They've basically given up haven't they? It filters down doesn't it..... BSPA >>>>> promotions>>>>>riders>>>>fans 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 I think the majority of fans that still attend are partially,,,, some fully brain washed.....and will put up with and turn up and watch anything. I've seen nothing from my club promoter condeming Holder,,,, but I guess he cant,,, cos a favour was done for us last week?? Which is why at the time I said we should have had 2 juniors,,, to stop this happening 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 19 minutes ago, Baldyman said: I think the majority of fans that still attend are partially,,,, some fully brain washed.....and will put up with and turn up and watch anything. I've seen nothing from my club promoter condeming Holder,,,, but I guess he cant,,, cos a favour was done for us last week?? Which is why at the time I said we should have had 2 juniors,,, to stop this happening On another thread I have said that those who go won't complain as they clearly accept it.... It's the 'ex followers' who are not there anymore, and the silence from the spaces that they used to frequent, in the four fifths empty stadiums, that should be 'listened' to.. Wont happen though, we all know that.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 What about promotions of the other clubs,,, have they got any balls to say oi Sheffield no. Or what about the refs or whoever else gets a say. Anyone? Usual case of best interests of the sport. As Jim Royle would say..... Sport my arse 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Trees said: That's handy for Ipswich AGAIN! First having r/r for Klindt not Allen against Lynn, now this, lucky, lucky, lucky! Allen wasn't in the team - declarations take 3 days And remember I said we should've been made to use 2 NL guests Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 27 minutes ago, Baldyman said: What about promotions of the other clubs,,, have they got any balls to say oi Sheffield no. Or what about the refs or whoever else gets a say. Anyone? Usual case of best interests of the sport. As Jim Royle would say..... Sport my arse No one will complain.. As they know that maybe next week, or the week after, or the week after that etc etc etc... They will eventually also need a made up Mickey Mouse ruling to be given to them 'in the interests of speedway'... Imagine trying to get a major blue chip company sponsor involved with a sport ran like this...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 Joke sport I’m afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk127 Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 If clubs are having such difficulty in putting out seven man teams, why did they not bite the bullet and have six or five man teams and make up the evening with the junior league teams. They had an opportunity to do something different but failed to show any initiative and yet the owners, promoters, managers and racing officials continue to treat the punter with such contempt and as long as the minority put up with this, they will carry on regardless. The majority have long since walked away from this farce. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 (edited) Holder is not riding in Poland until Friday May 28th start time 2030 local and it’s not re-arranged. Edited May 24, 2021 by racers and royals 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 They had pretty much a 'free pass' this season.. They could have tried some new operating model with six or five man teams based on UK domiciled riders who are not riding overseas... They could have tried a new heat structure, they could have ran with less heats but reintroduced a full 2nd half for juniors... They could have done lots of 'experimenting' to see what worked and what didn't... Instead it's the same old, same old... A gift horse looked fully in the mouth.... Takes some doing to waste a 'free pass'.... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Scrutton Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 if anybody is ruining the sport its Poland ALL riders will ride for them and they couldn"t care about anyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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