racers and royals Posted July 9, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2021 Only 577 in Avesta and the home team far too good for the visitors from Motala. For Masarna Hellstrom- Bangs was flying and finished with 12 paid 13. For Piraterna THJ provided all the entertainment with several charges from the back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted July 9, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2021 980 in Gislaved and another big home victory. Lambert in a class of his own for Lejonen - just beaten in heat 1 by Nilsson. Only Lahti and Huckenbeck in double figures for Rospiggarna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topsoil Posted July 9, 2021 Report Share Posted July 9, 2021 Surely the clubs cannot survive on crowds like that (the figures quoted for last week in the Speedway Star, despite restriction being lifted, were disastrous). I would think that the wages bills would be much higher than in Britain as well, given that the Swedish clubs still use some of the Ekstraliga riders. Seeing that riders like that cannot attract a crowd makes me think Britain is doing the right thing, ignoring Ekstraliga riders in the main and concentrating on riders based in this country. Use local riders and build up from within again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted July 9, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2021 Current table 1 Smederna P 6 pts 12 2 Dackarna P 7 pts 9 3 Vastervik P 6 pts 8 4 Lejonen P 6 pts 8 5 Vetlanda P 6 pts 6 6 Rospiggarna P 7 pts 4 7 Masarna P 6 pts 4 8 Indianerna P 6 pts 4 9 Piraterna P 6 pts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted July 10, 2021 Report Share Posted July 10, 2021 In my effort to try and get my head around the way Sweden name their Speedway teams, I ran them through Google translate and here are the results: The Blacksmiths The Ducks Vastervik The Lion Vetlanda Rospiggarna The Masses The Indians The Pirates Question: Why do some teams use their emblem name and others use their location name? It makes it mighty confusing when sometimes in commentary clubs are referred to with both/either or any of their names like Kumla/Inianarna/The Indians... sometimes it's like 6 teams are on show. "arna" seems to indicate "the" and the previous part of the word except for Rospiggarna which Google won't translate... what's a Rospigg? Some kind of Pig? Why haven't Vetlanda or Vastervik got other names? Confused Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bavarian Posted July 10, 2021 Report Share Posted July 10, 2021 (edited) Vetlanda and Västervik both DID have nicknames for their teams in the past. They used to be known as the Njudungarna and the Skepparna. Not sure why they drooppped these names. And Rospiggarna has absolutely nothing to do with a pig. I seem to remember that it has to do with people of local history there. Perhaps someone of our Swedish experts on the BSF knows better than me and can explain it? Edited July 10, 2021 by Bavarian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted July 10, 2021 Report Share Posted July 10, 2021 (edited) Rospigg is someone living in the the geographical region called Roslagen. A pigg is an old word for wasp (wasp's sting). Edited July 10, 2021 by Ghostwalker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted July 10, 2021 Report Share Posted July 10, 2021 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Bavarian said: Vetlanda and Västervik both DID have nicknames for their teams in the past. They used to be known as the Njudungarna and the Skepparna. Not sure why they drooppped these names. And Rospiggarna has absolutely nothing to do with a pig. I seem to remember that it has to do with people of local history there. Perhaps someone of our Swedish experts on the BSF knows better than me and can explain it? What's a Njudungarna... and The Ships 27 minutes ago, Ghostwalker said: Rospigg is someone living in the the geographical region called Rosslagen. A pigg is an old word for wasp (wasp's sting). Not The Roast Pigs then lol Edited July 10, 2021 by iainb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted July 10, 2021 Report Share Posted July 10, 2021 54 minutes ago, iainb said: In my effort to try and get my head around the way Sweden name their Speedway teams, I ran them through Google translate and here are the results: The Blacksmiths The Ducks Vastervik The Lion Vetlanda Rospiggarna The Masses The Indians The Pirates Question: Why do some teams use their emblem name and others use their location name? It makes it mighty confusing when sometimes in commentary clubs are referred to with both/either or any of their names like Kumla/Inianarna/The Indians... sometimes it's like 6 teams are on show. "arna" seems to indicate "the" and the previous part of the word except for Rospiggarna which Google won't translate... what's a Rospigg? Some kind of Pig? Why haven't Vetlanda or Vastervik got other names? Confused Dackarna is most certainly not ducks. Dackarna is named after south Swedish rebel Nils Dacke and Dackarna was his followers. Mas|ar(na) is a nickname for people living in the province named Dalarna. Vetlanda and Västervik do have other names as well. Vetlanda is/was also known as Njudungarna and Västervik is also known as Skepparna. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted July 10, 2021 Report Share Posted July 10, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, iainb said: What's a Njudungarna... and The Ships Not a The Roast Pigs then lol Njudung is another local geographical name. It's the name of one of the small medieval provinces which together was designated små land (Småland) and one of this provinces was Njudung,. https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Njudung https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folkland https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Småland#History Skeppare is a commander of a smaller ship, but in this case people working on the shipyard that once existed in Västervik. Edited July 10, 2021 by Ghostwalker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted July 10, 2021 Report Share Posted July 10, 2021 Also see this article: https://www.aftonbladet.se/sportbladet/a/7lP3yV/lar-kanna-varldens-markligaste-klubbnamn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted July 10, 2021 Report Share Posted July 10, 2021 I'm even more confused now... wish I hadn't asked 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bavarian Posted July 10, 2021 Report Share Posted July 10, 2021 (edited) very good explanations by @Ghostwalker, it is crystal clear now Edited July 10, 2021 by Bavarian 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted July 10, 2021 Report Share Posted July 10, 2021 49 minutes ago, iainb said: I'm even more confused now... wish I hadn't asked To simply things, almost every name has a local connection one way or another, either geographical names or professions with local connection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bavarian Posted July 10, 2021 Report Share Posted July 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Ghostwalker said: Rospigg is someone living in the the geographical region called Roslagen. A pigg is an old word for wasp (wasp's sting). Could this possibly have someting to do with a rose and it's thorns ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted July 10, 2021 Report Share Posted July 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Bavarian said: Could this possibly have someting to do with a rose and it's thorns ? Actually now that I look it up. Rospigg is a modern spelling of " rosbyggiar" which is someone (byggare? (settler)) living in Rosen (old name for Roslagen). However I have a weak memory of seeing a wasp related to Rospiggarna. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bavarian Posted July 10, 2021 Report Share Posted July 10, 2021 I know that the wasp was always the symbol of Getingarna form Stockholm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted July 10, 2021 Report Share Posted July 10, 2021 47 minutes ago, Bavarian said: very good explanations by @Ghostwalker, it is crystal clear now Yes, I get the explanations and thank @Ghostwalker for them. What I don't get is why there's no uniformity. Unless I'm wrong, and it has been known, Sweden seems to be the only place to break from the "Location" & "Nickname" convention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted July 10, 2021 Report Share Posted July 10, 2021 20 minutes ago, Bavarian said: I know that the wasp was always the symbol of Getingarna form Stockholm Translates to The Wasps on Google translate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Goddard Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 One of my favourite Swedish nicknames was Gastarna - The Ghosts. Can't remember what track they rode at. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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