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Kings Lynn vs Ipswich Witches May 17th 7.30pm


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3 minutes ago, Racin Jason 72 said:

Can’t get on either kings Lynn or Ipswich atm.  20 months to sort this out.  Absolutely hopeless

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Just now, Trees said:

There has to be a good reason for not having the tix on sale cos they would 100% have them on sale if at all possible!

I get that , why then do they not let us into the secret.

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Just read thro this thread and two things come to mind.

1. Nothing has changed regarding managements attitude to the fans.

2. I’m so pleased I gave up on it a few years back having spent the money on short breaks instead, with a company who know how to appreciate and treat their customers. 

 

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4 minutes ago, Trees said:

There has to be a good reason for not having the tix on sale cos they would 100% have them on sale if at all possible!

So put out a tweet/PR at 0900 saying why. It would take no longer than you or I putting a post on here. I refer you to my post above regarding attitude

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It would be so easy to let everyone know via social media and websites why there is a delay, to apologise for it and give us an indication of when tickets can be bought if possible. So quick to do. You’d think with the few loyal customers it has left that British Speedway would treat them as well as it possibly can! 

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12 hours ago, stu219 said:

And just a side note. If the  admission is £20 remember 20% of that goes to good old Richie sunak as VAT ,so actually  the money the promoters get is less than £17. A side  point I know but please people don't think  the promoters are getting the full £20 in their pockets

Read all the comments following my disbelief at admission costs. 

What seems to be missed here is the price rises are counterintuitive. We all understand costs go up for variable reasons. 

With speedway they have a sport when run correctly they should be looking to bring the prices DOWN. With the consistency of fans walking away (and oldies dying) price rises tend to correlate with this rather than costs. 

British Speedway knows it's on it ass & there seems to be clear evidence that all that's happening is as fans walk away, prices go up, which will continue until the day comes all tracks doors are closed. 

There no evidence of promoter's trying to grow the sport, marketing the product etc. 

Also, evidence of it's huge down turn is TV. When Sky Sports took it there was a massive opportunity to lift the sport but it wasn't taken so Sky didn't want it anymore. Then it went to BT who no longer wants it so now at the bottom rung of Eurosport. The sport is even dying on live TV. 

I used to be a huge defender of Speedway (especially King's Lynn) but it's very true what people say. Speedway is like any bad habit, once you break it you don't find the need to ever return. 

There's no 'hook' like there was from 20-30 years ago. 

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2 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said:

Read all the comments following my disbelief at admission costs. 

What seems to be missed here is the price rises are counterintuitive. We all understand costs go up for variable reasons. 

With speedway they have a sport when run correctly they should be looking to bring the prices DOWN. With the consistency of fans walking away (and oldies dying) price rises tend to correlate with this rather than costs. 

Funny how some think the more popular an item becomes the cheaper is should be.

Try telling that to Bill Gates. Must have paid for the development of Microsoft Office many times over yet still sells the full suite at £300 plus.   And what about Dyson with his vacuum cleaners. Who would have thought that today you could pay over £600 for a vacuum cleaner. Dyson is a self made millionaire, not reduced his pricing though.  ManUtd/City/Chelsea/Arsenal etc, all very successful clubs, how much do they charge to see a live match?

If speedway was to promote itself properly in line with modern day practices and picked up....that will take a massive investment, and the success of speedway would mean prices would go UP.....not down.  In a few years time the norm could be £30 not £20.  

Of course, the progression needed would have to come from "out of the box" thinking.....plus a LOT of investment, not just in one club, but in the whole system....... speedway would need a Bernie Ecclestone or a Barry Hearn. There isnt many of that class about, and I reckon if there is then  speedway is not a target they want be involved in. 

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Totally see both sides of the cost argument.

Very rarely in life do things get cheaper but price and value of things are all relative to the individual. What’s cheap for one person at £20 is extortionate to another because we all have differing levels of disposable income.

As I’ve said before, I’d previously count myself a die hard fan and attended any meeting regardless of opposition/line up when the sport was in the £15 bracket. So effectively the club could count on me attending let’s say 20 meetings at £15 (£300 across a season).

To me I started to think it’s not value for money around the £18 mark so I started to pick and choose my meetings and I think I only did about 10 in 2019. That meant the club got about £180 from me.

Now at £20 I will give it a go because I’ve missed it and want to start living a normal life again. But if the racing is poor and the team is as weak as it looks on paper, I’ll probably do a maximum of 4 or 5 meetings this season. That means the club will get £80 to £100 from me this year.

So to put it simply, speedway needs to decide whether it wants £300 from me a season or let’s say £100. Add in that I always buy a programme and normally a pint or two if not driving. Multiply me by say another 50 to 100 likeminded fans and that’s a fair amount of revenue across a season. 

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When we lived in Harrow during the seventies we went to Speedway four or five times a week. I could not afford to do that now even if there was the opportunity . Just shows the relative increase in costs.

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11 minutes ago, Speedball said:

Totally see both sides of the cost argument.

Very rarely in life do things get cheaper but price and value of things are all relative to the individual. What’s cheap for one person at £20 is extortionate to another because we all have differing levels of disposable income.

As I’ve said before, I’d previously count myself a die hard fan and attended any meeting regardless of opposition/line up when the sport was in the £15 bracket. So effectively the club could count on me attending let’s say 20 meetings at £15 (£300 across a season).

To me I started to think it’s not value for money around the £18 mark so I started to pick and choose my meetings and I think I only did about 10 in 2019. That meant the club got about £180 from me.

Now at £20 I will give it a go because I’ve missed it and want to start living a normal life again. But if the racing is poor and the team is as week as it looks on paper, I’ll probably do a maximum of 4 or 5 meetings this season. That means the club will get £80 to £100 from me this year.

So to put it simply, speedway needs to decide whether it wants £300 from me a season or let’s say £100. Add in that I always buy a programme and normally a pint or two if not driving. Multiply me by say another 50 to 100 likeminded fans and that’s a fair amount of revenue across a season. 

Let's say they do lose £200 from those 100 like minded - that equals £20,000

If they still get 1000 to each meeting then that's £2 extra x 1000 (£2000) per meeting

So even running just 10 meeting means no loss overall for the promotion in raw terms

Of course there are other less tangible losses but that is a different debate

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