bluejam Posted April 5, 2021 Report Share Posted April 5, 2021 6 hours ago, chunky said: Not true. I get on his back when he posts crap on here, and acts like an idiot. And what's wrong with posting crap on here? There's crap posted on here everyday but you don't react to it,but you did with an 88 year old speedway enthusiast 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted April 5, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2021 47 minutes ago, bluejam said: And what's wrong with posting crap on here? There's crap posted on here everyday but you don't react to it,but you did with an 88 year old speedway enthusiast Okay, looks like I'm the one who's not wanted here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted April 6, 2021 Report Share Posted April 6, 2021 8 hours ago, chunky said: Okay, looks like I'm the one who's not wanted here... Not from my view point. By contributing one is always open to criticism. The maxim is attack the post not the poster. We can all be guilty of building a picture up of someone that we never know if its accurate or a mis judgement. Jab #1 can hurt... but I still want Jab #2 PS: I like Marmite! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kester Posted April 6, 2021 Report Share Posted April 6, 2021 9 hours ago, bluejam said: And what's wrong with posting crap on here? There's crap posted on here everyday but you don't react to it,but you did with an 88 year old speedway enthusiast There's nothing wrong with it. But then you must expect people to react or interact with it, otherwise why post it on a public forum? John's postings could be quite bizarre (Jack Keen from Erith!) and were often going to receive a negative reaction from some. Chunky reacts to all sorts of posts on here, regardless of the age of the poster. In fact, I can think of several other posters who were far more vociferous towards John's postings. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted April 6, 2021 Report Share Posted April 6, 2021 27 minutes ago, Kester said: There's nothing wrong with it. But then you must expect people to react or interact with it, otherwise why post it on a public forum? John's postings could be quite bizarre (Jack Keen from Erith!) and were often going to receive a negative reaction from some. Chunky reacts to all sorts of posts on here, regardless of the age of the poster. In fact, I can think of several other posters who were far more vociferous towards John's postings. I agree Kester. Chunky is quite outspoken and doesn't mince words, but that doesn't mean he is wrong to do so especially if someone is posting complete nonsense and doing it specifically to wind people up themselves. Kester mentions Jack Keen from Erith, but at one time, John Hyam had at least four different aliases he was posting under and there were a number of threads where he took over and just argued with himself. It was bizarre. He did settle down from that but would then quite often post provocative statements and get hurt when people replied to them. I was actually quite friendly with John and had been for many years, as he did have a lot to contribute to the history of speedway, and, away from the Forum, was very helpful and supportive to me, but I have to say that even I found his posts very tiresome at times. I never picked him up on his posts or argued with him on here because of our friendship but it was a bit of strain to restrain myself sometimes! As Kester says, there were others far more outspoken than Chunky in their responses and Chunky did, on several occasions, try and help John out with information, both historical and technical, but, many times, his help was flung back in his face. Incidentally, I do find it funny how those posters accusing people of bullying are lining up to attack Chunky! 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted April 8, 2021 Report Share Posted April 8, 2021 On 4/6/2021 at 8:50 AM, norbold said: I agree Kester. Chunky is quite outspoken and doesn't mince words, but that doesn't mean he is wrong to do so especially if someone is posting complete nonsense and doing it specifically to wind people up themselves. Kester mentions Jack Keen from Erith, but at one time, John Hyam had at least four different aliases he was posting under and there were a number of threads where he took over and just argued with himself. It was bizarre. He did settle down from that but would then quite often post provocative statements and get hurt when people replied to them. I was actually quite friendly with John and had been for many years, as he did have a lot to contribute to the history of speedway, and, away from the Forum, was very helpful and supportive to me, but I have to say that even I found his posts very tiresome at times. I never picked him up on his posts or argued with him on here because of our friendship but it was a bit of strain to restrain myself sometimes! As Kester says, there were others far more outspoken than Chunky in their responses and Chunky did, on several occasions, try and help John out with information, both historical and technical, but, many times, his help was flung back in his face. Incidentally, I do find it funny how those posters accusing people of bullying are lining up to attack Chunky! Well, I wasn't confining my arguments only to Chunky. You are right norbold, when you state that Chunky was one of John's minor attackers. There are, however, a few others on here who are not nearly so mild in their criticism, or should I say bullying (for that is what it is). I will not name them because you all know who they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted April 9, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2021 (edited) 13 hours ago, The White Knight said: Well, I wasn't confining my arguments only to Chunky. So why did you open with that statement? That looked pretty specific to me? Plus, it's a lie; ALWAYS "on his back"? As norbold stated, I was usually one of the first to jump in and help when John needed it. I often stated that John just needed to forget about posting stupid, contradictory, inflammatory, illegal, and insulting stuff, and everything would be fine. I stand by that still... Edited April 9, 2021 by chunky 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted April 9, 2021 Report Share Posted April 9, 2021 11 hours ago, The White Knight said: Well, I wasn't confining my arguments only to Chunky. You are right norbold, when you state that Chunky was one of John's minor attackers. There are, however, a few others on here who are not nearly so mild in their criticism, or should I say bullying (for that is what it is). I will not name them because you all know who they are. If a lot of people call out one person for trolling or posting repeated nonsense, that is not bullying. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted April 9, 2021 Report Share Posted April 9, 2021 What I miss are genuine speedway related themes that some posters regularly took the trouble to post. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted April 9, 2021 Report Share Posted April 9, 2021 1 hour ago, steve roberts said: What I miss are genuine speedway related themes that some posters regularly took the trouble to post. Have to agree. By far my favourite threads are those on years gone by, reminiscing/debating about favourite speedway eras (80s for me) and the great- and not so great- riders from those times. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted April 9, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, waiheke1 said: Have to agree. By far my favourite threads are those on years gone by, reminiscing/debating about favourite speedway eras (80s for me) and the great- and not so great- riders from those times. I find the threads about the not-so-great (and often forgotten) riders the most interesting of all - and heaven knows, there were enough of 'em in the 80's! Edited April 9, 2021 by chunky 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBBATH Posted April 10, 2021 Report Share Posted April 10, 2021 I like everybody who posts on here.(But then I am heavily medicated!!!!) 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted April 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2021 14 hours ago, BOBBATH said: I like everybody who posts on here.(But then I am heavily medicated!!!!) You NEED to be if you are on here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBBATH Posted April 12, 2021 Report Share Posted April 12, 2021 That's the least of my problems mate! We are still in lockdown here!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 (edited) I recently created a detailed list of Posts and speedway publications that I have been involved with over the years. I even posted it - SOMEWHERE!! NOW I CANNOT FIND IT. Can anyone help me - PLEASE? Edited May 12, 2022 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 quite possibly in one of the threads you deleted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 13, 2022 Report Share Posted May 13, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, JohnHyam said: I recently created a detailed list of Posts and speedway publications that I have been involved with over the years. I even posted it - SOMEWHERE!! NOW I CANNOT FIND IT. Can anyone help me - PLEASE? 9 hours ago, stevehone said: quite possibly in one of the threads you deleted I tend to agree with you stevehone! For other posters I would like to confirm that I am no longer involved as a member of FACEBOOK. Edited May 13, 2022 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBBATH Posted May 13, 2022 Report Share Posted May 13, 2022 Hi John, glad to see your posts again, any memories that you have of the 1956 World Final would be welcome- that's where you correctly predicted the winner (Ove) when the Star asked for predictions from its columnists in the World Final preview edition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 13, 2022 Report Share Posted May 13, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, BOBBATH said: Hi John, glad to see your posts again, any memories that you have of the 1956 World Final would be welcome- that's where you correctly predicted the winner (Ove) when the Star asked for predictions from its columnists in the World Final preview edition. The only memory I have is from after the meeting. I was in the official lift with other journalists and the new world champion Ove Fundin. We were on our way to the stadium reception room. I was given a very cold look by the other journalists when I shook Fundin's hand to congratulate him for his well deserved success. Edited May 13, 2022 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 13, 2022 Report Share Posted May 13, 2022 My speedway thoughts 2017 as on SPEEDWAY PLUS: http://www.speedwayplus.com/aayJohnHyam.shtml Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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