phillwhitewasmad Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 I have looked at James results and in 18 his average was less than 1 and 19 it was around 2 so personally I can see why a club would give Ben a chance. I'm still quite shocked that it was Ben and not Mickie Simpson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 1 hour ago, phillwhitewasmad said: I have looked at James results and in 18 his average was less than 1 and 19 it was around 2 so personally I can see why a club would give Ben a chance. I'm still quite shocked that it was Ben and not Mickie Simpson With respect to James and many similar in his position in 2018 he got 11 meetings and 2019 he got 10 meetings all as a guest so whilst there were chances to impress its not fair to judge solely on his average as that is often inflated by home form for most riders and he didn't really have any meaningful home run of fixtures. That said his record at Leicester isn't great although against a strong side last year so whilst i still believe he deserved a chance somewhere perhaps Leicester wasn't the best fit. If he was released because a better option became available that's fair enough but to be told that we are opting for someone younger isn't on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillwhitewasmad Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 im not sure whether it is an age thing or not but to me it seems like a straight swap on potential points scoring ability and like you say Leicester probably wasnt the best fit. problem is with the late changes it was always going to leave some riders high and dry 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 24 minutes ago, phillwhitewasmad said: im not sure whether it is an age thing or not but to me it seems like a straight swap on potential points scoring ability and like you say Leicester probably wasnt the best fit. problem is with the late changes it was always going to leave some riders high and dry On reflection it probably was a fair swap based upon performances at Leicester and was just a clumsy way of releasing the rider rather than being open and honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted February 27, 2021 Report Share Posted February 27, 2021 I'm sure the Leicester promotion for rate Chattin & thought Trigger would be better, but to save face etc. used the "bringing on youngsters" excuse! While this may sound kinder than announcing they have no faith in Chattin's ability - they've publicly admitted to age discrimination! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted February 27, 2021 Report Share Posted February 27, 2021 So while Leicester are championing age discrimination why just stop at riders! Sack Stuart Dickson & sign a younger team manager, tell Rob Sensicall even though he's a great announcer he's being dropped for son Tom! Is Nigel Pearson they're press officer, cause he's no spring chicken, why not sack him for someone younger too? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted February 28, 2021 Report Share Posted February 28, 2021 3 hours ago, szkocjasid said: So while Leicester are championing age discrimination why just stop at riders! Sack Stuart Dickson & sign a younger team manager, tell Rob Sensicall even though he's a great announcer he's being dropped for son Tom! Is Nigel Pearson they're press officer, cause he's no spring chicken, why not sack him for someone younger too? Oh come on. Let's go the whole hog and get rid of the existing fans and replace them with their grandkids. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted February 28, 2021 Report Share Posted February 28, 2021 9 hours ago, False dawn said: Oh come on. Let's go the whole hog and get rid of the existing fans and replace them with their grandkids. I forgot about them lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted February 28, 2021 Report Share Posted February 28, 2021 9 hours ago, False dawn said: Oh come on. Let's go the whole hog and get rid of the existing fans and replace them with their grandkids. 1 minute ago, szkocjasid said: I forgot about them lol! All part of the BSPL master plan. Stadiums full of kids hanging with thier mates, all in caps and holding skateboards tweeting how "cool" speedway and the awesome influencers who run it are..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted February 28, 2021 Report Share Posted February 28, 2021 13 hours ago, szkocjasid said: I'm sure the Leicester promotion for rate Chattin & thought Trigger would be better, but to save face etc. used the "bringing on youngsters" excuse! While this may sound kinder than announcing they have no faith in Chattin's ability - they've publicly admitted to age discrimination! So why sign him in the 1st place or even pledge to track the same Team. I saw this coming when I saw these ‘commitments’ not just NL sides but senior leagues too. A year is a long time particularly during a global pandemic. That’s why I never bought the kids Xmas presents too early as you can guarantee there would be a new more exciting toy released just when you’d finished your Xmas shopping !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted February 28, 2021 Report Share Posted February 28, 2021 1 hour ago, TMW said: So why sign him in the 1st place or even pledge to track the same Team. I saw this coming when I saw these ‘commitments’ not just NL sides but senior leagues too. A year is a long time particularly during a global pandemic. That’s why I never bought the kids Xmas presents too early as you can guarantee there would be a new more exciting toy released just when you’d finished your Xmas shopping !! Your comments on this thread are ironic since Leicester did keep the same 7 senior riders for their Champonship team until they couldn't agree terms with Ellis Perks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted February 28, 2021 Report Share Posted February 28, 2021 8 hours ago, False dawn said: Your comments on this thread are ironic since Leicester did keep the same 7 senior riders for their Champonship team until they couldn't agree terms with Ellis Perks I did say senior ‘leagues’ as a few senior teams have had to make changes. I couldn’t understand why they made such commitments !! No irony intended Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandelion Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 Jamie Halder it is then 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 On 2/28/2021 at 9:41 AM, Sings4Speedway said: All part of the BSPL master plan. Stadiums full of kids hanging with thier mates, all in caps and holding skateboards tweeting how "cool" speedway and the awesome influencers who run it are..... Innit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Lionspride said: Taking a look at the NL side for the cubs & I am fearful. The team Dave Howard has built doesn’t look strong enough & I fear he might not be walking on water this season . Non of the teams built look strong enough but thats the rules. The cubs have 3 genuine heat leaders which is more than some teams. The Thompsons are likely to put 3+ points each on their averages. Halder is another likely strong improver and if Spencer returns its a top 5 all with season experience under their belt. The reserves are probably middle of the road from the newbies so as long as they can score ok at home and pick up pieces away i think this team will be in the hunt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Lionspride said: Tom Spencer complete’s the cubs team . Although the strength of the league is a-lot weaker it will be good to see some up & coming rider’s race in an organised team event. I standby my view that they are not strong enough but look forward to supporting them i just hope they don’t try to charge £13 for racing at this level. One comment on the website made me think Did the messiah & NDL guru Dave Howard build the team or was he given the team by the promotion ? “ I’m sure they will all improve over the season, and now it’s up to Dave Howard (manager) as to how he arranges the team “ Surely if Dave built the team he would build it knowing who he wants in which riding number ? I just found it to be a very strange comment . I think it’s actually a very strong team. You honestly have to bear in mind how weak the league is this year! Lots of teams have 3 or 4 3pt riders but the Cubs only have 2 and they’re both at reserve. The second strings should beat all the other 3pt riders and hold their own in general at home, especially Halder who must’ve done hundreds of laps around Beaumont Park by now. Then there’s a proper heat leader trio. Lawlor looks as good as most in the league, maybe not upto a Clegg or Greaves standard, but he will regularly win races home and away. Then the Thompson twins are riders who should definitely put good points on their average. I imagine they’ll ride like genuine heat leaders at home and do pretty well away. Also remember they’re two of the few riders who can argue that they had a near normal season last year, so that should put them ahead in terms of development. If the play-offs existed, I’d have this team in my top 4. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 I think this Lions team is one of two that could trouble Eastbourne for both the league and at Arlington. As stated Lawlor may not be the hottest number 1 in the league but when applied he can mix it with many of them. The Thompsons re on false averages and are going to be getting loads of track time at a higher level which will only bring them on. The weakness is that neither reserve is proven at this level and with a few teams built to always have at least one strong rider at 7 unless one really kicks on i think that is where the difference between 1st and more likely 3rd occurs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted April 27, 2021 Report Share Posted April 27, 2021 20 minutes ago, Lionspride said: Cubs have lost Halder , broken ankle in a fall at home Heck of a fall to break it in 3 places. Desperately unlucky on both rider and club as he looked a real value signing this season. Very little about in the 4.5-5 ish averaged riders still available, i would think Scott Campos could almost name his price at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted April 27, 2021 Report Share Posted April 27, 2021 2 hours ago, Sings4Speedway said: Heck of a fall to break it in 3 places. Desperately unlucky on both rider and club as he looked a real value signing this season. Very little about in the 4.5-5 ish averaged riders still available, i would think Scott Campos could almost name his price at this point. Or they could go with the ‘new dawn’ and give another 3 pointer a chance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandelion Posted April 27, 2021 Report Share Posted April 27, 2021 Would be incredibly harsh but they could drop Tom Spencer and bring in Alex Spooner and Mickie Simpson Not saying they will... just throwing all the possibilities out there for fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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