Elmo Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 41 minutes ago, Happy Hunter said: Announced tonight that name of new rider will be revealed in the Star tomorrow. Didnt think the new track lights were any different to the old ones! They are not new, they were just realigned and cleaned and that came direct from the electrician. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted May 20, 2021 Report Share Posted May 20, 2021 On 5/17/2021 at 3:54 PM, skydog said: And these signings and facilities are all sanctioned by the same BSPL that berated and threatened SDL & MSDL teams for occasionally needing to use r/r, because it made the sport look bad... Yes, and quite rightly too... As it's their job, and their job alone, to make the sport look bad... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted May 20, 2021 Report Share Posted May 20, 2021 (edited) On 5/16/2021 at 3:17 PM, Great Central said: I don't know why people are getting so wound up by all this cheating? It is being done to bring on the youth and "for the good of the sport". Martin Widman Wight Warriors The thing that surprises me here is that people actually seemed to be surprised by rule fiddling, cheating and general bunkum authorised by the BSPL. They have, after all, been doing it season after season for decades so we should be entirely used to it. 'Bring on the youth'. By my rough calculation, around one third of those named in NDL teams would not qualify to take part in the league under the conditions indicated in Speedy Star by Jason Pipe. Edited May 20, 2021 by Halifaxtiger 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickie Head Posted May 20, 2021 Report Share Posted May 20, 2021 Mickie Simpson is the new signing and he will come into the side as soon as he has recovered from a current wrist injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrow Boy 2 Posted May 20, 2021 Report Share Posted May 20, 2021 16 hours ago, Elmo said: They are not new, they were just realigned and cleaned and that came direct from the electrician. Well it's made no difference. It must be a nightmare for the riders and those near me in the stand were all complaining that they could not see well enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Posted May 20, 2021 Report Share Posted May 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Barrow Boy 2 said: Well it's made no difference. It must be a nightmare for the riders and those near me in the stand were all complaining that they could not see well enough. I agree it ain’t great for the spectators but an upgrade isn’t cheap apparently. Just need someone to win the lottery I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flagrag Posted May 20, 2021 Report Share Posted May 20, 2021 19 hours ago, Elmo said: They are not new, they were just realigned and cleaned and that came direct from the electrician. I can assure you that some of the bulbs have been replaced with higher rated ones as well as other ones being cleaned and realigned to be more on the track. The light levels were measured before and after with a lux meter and there was some definite improvement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Posted May 20, 2021 Report Share Posted May 20, 2021 37 minutes ago, flagrag said: I can assure you that some of the bulbs have been replaced with higher rated ones as well as other ones being cleaned and realigned to be more on the track. The light levels were measured before and after with a lux meter and there was some definite improvement A slight improvement on the track I was told by someone involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrow Boy 2 Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 16 hours ago, flagrag said: I can assure you that some of the bulbs have been replaced with higher rated ones as well as other ones being cleaned and realigned to be more on the track. The light levels were measured before and after with a lux meter and there was some definite improvement Pardon the pun but I just don't see it. The lights are doing no good whatsoever. There are not enough of them and some of them are much too high to be of any use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman123 Posted May 22, 2021 Report Share Posted May 22, 2021 On 5/16/2021 at 12:39 PM, PotteringAround said: You mean just as Leicester "haven't"? Leicester haven't followed the rules and plugged the gap. They've cheated and are illegally using the R/R facility. The NDL should put someone in place to police the rules and guard against such cheating. They could call him "NDL co-ordinator" or something like that. RR facilities are granted by the rule makers themselves … being the SCB…. so it obviously is within the rules…. otherwise it would not have been granted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ringitsneck Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 (edited) On 5/22/2021 at 12:07 PM, peckover said: RR facilities are granted by the rule makers themselves … being the SCB…. so it obviously is within the rules…. otherwise it would not have been granted Not in the rule book and the league co- ordinater was , allegedly, not consulted , the powers that be simply stated ‘ it is in the best interests of the sport ‘ which is the mafias get out clause for everything they want to do. Edited May 23, 2021 by Ringitsneck 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Ringitsneck said: Not in the rule book and the league co- ordinater was , allegedly, not consulted , the powers that be simply stated ‘ it is in the best interests of the sport ‘ which is the mafias get out clause for everything they want to do. Why would they consult him ? He’s just there for fixtures and stuff. Although I imagine they’ll start calling on him when they can’t fill spaces because of the woefully low points limit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binman Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 9 minutes ago, TMW said: Why would they consult him ? He’s just there for fixtures and stuff. Although I imagine they’ll start calling on him when they can’t fill spaces because of the woefully low points limit What's the point of a league coordinator he should be involved as make decisions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Binman said: What's the point of a league coordinator he should be involved as make decisions Because that’s what a ‘coordinator’ does they make sure things ‘come together’ with in a set of Parameters. They don’t decide ‘how things’ come together. That’s a higher pay grade if it was a paid role ! Edited May 23, 2021 by TMW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binman Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 34 minutes ago, TMW said: Because that’s what a ‘coordinator’ does they make sure things ‘come together’ with in a set of Parameters. They don’t decide ‘how things’ come together. That’s a higher pay grade if it was a paid role ! Parameters that's the one our league coordinator is more than capable of making any independent decisions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman123 Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 (edited) 19 hours ago, Ringitsneck said: Not in the rule book and the league co- ordinater was , allegedly, not consulted , the powers that be simply stated ‘ it is in the best interests of the sport ‘ which is the mafias get out clause for everything they want to do. Yes it is in the Rule Book on the SCB Website Rule 013.6 NDL Facilities (Supplementary Regulations v2 2021) ii. A missing rider, 2 to 5 by MA, either RR or an unattached rider. ------------------------ And if you look, there was RR used in the Premiership and Championship last week in 4 other Teams first meetings of the season too Edited May 24, 2021 by peckover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted May 25, 2021 Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 On 5/24/2021 at 9:13 AM, peckover said: Yes it is in the Rule Book on the SCB Website Rule 013.6 NDL Facilities (Supplementary Regulations v2 2021) ii. A missing rider, 2 to 5 by MA, either RR or an unattached rider. ------------------------ And if you look, there was RR used in the Premiership and Championship last week in 4 other Teams first meetings of the season too May aswell just throw the rule book out then, in the interests of the sport ! As if that rule can be broken then why not others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman123 Posted May 25, 2021 Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 1 hour ago, TMW said: May aswell just throw the rule book out then, in the interests of the sport ! As if that rule can be broken then why not others. .................but the point is, whether you like the rule or not, as that's the rule it ain't been broken at all................ as shown as granted to 5 teams for their first meetings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted May 25, 2021 Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 36 minutes ago, peckover said: .................but the point is, whether you like the rule or not, as that's the rule it ain't been broken at all................ as shown as granted to 5 teams for their first meetings RR is allowed but its "normally" not allowed when a rider hasn't ridden for that particular club otherwise a rider with no intention of riding could sign and then the team could utilise RR all season long. The rule has been broken its just been broken across multiple leagues....does that make it any better? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted May 25, 2021 Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 On 5/24/2021 at 9:13 AM, peckover said: Yes it is in the Rule Book on the SCB Website Rule 013.6 NDL Facilities (Supplementary Regulations v2 2021) ii. A missing rider, 2 to 5 by MA, either RR or an unattached rider. ------------------------ And if you look, there was RR used in the Premiership and Championship last week in 4 other Teams first meetings of the season too See also the following regulation, noting 010.5.p with reference to Leicester's team line-up (Jamie Halder was not in Leicester's final team declaration for 2019). 010.5 FACILITIES No facility is permitted to replace a rider, who although included in a redeclaration has not made an appearance for that team since being redeclared. A team may utilise a facility to cover the absence of a rider(s) who is: - a) FIM World Speedway Championship and FIM World Long Track duty b) FIM Speedway of Nations duty c) FIME Speedway European Championship duty d) FIME U21 Championship duty e) engaged elsewhere at a BSPA shared or purchased meeting f) recalled in accordance with the FIM ISLB regulations g) injured whilst speedway racing, within 48 hours of the injury occurring. If no evidence is available, a Medical Certificate must be sent to the SCB; failure to do so will result in the mandatory suspension of the riders SCB Registration for the next home fixture. The Directors cannot overrule the suspension h) sick or carrying a non-speedway injury, the rider must immediately inform the SCB and their club. A Medical Certificate must be supplied to the SCB within 48 hours of the sickness/injury occurring in which case the rider will receive a mandatory 7 days suspension of his SCB Registration from the day of the first meeting missed i) suspended by the FIM, ACU, SCB or riders FMN j) in dispute with his club, provided that the circumstances have been accepted by the BSPA Directors who will determine the facility and period of the riders inactivity k) retiring during the current season a facility will be granted for a period of 28 days. After which the team must re-apply for a further 28 day facility outlining the steps they have taken to find a replacement. An extension up to 28 days may be granted at the BSPA Directors discretion. In these circumstances a rider cannot return to ride for any club within 28 days, effective from the date of notification to the SCB l) a Championship rider who’s own FMN does not have a current agreement with the BSPA and is competing in another FMN’s National, League or Open Meeting. This will result in the riders SCB Registration being suspended for one (1) season and the riders team will be automatically granted a facility for a maximum period of 28 days, after which that team must re-declare m) awaiting medical clearance for the riders FMN n) NDL only: absent for any other reason - applicable to riders 18 years old and under, providing 3 days’ notice is given o) a rider with an assessed MA p) has been approved in a teams declared 1-7 at the start of the season, a 28 day facility may be granted at the BSPA Directors discretion. In the NDL this only applies if the rider was in that teams 1-7 at the close of the previous season. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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