W9 Lion Posted February 19, 2021 Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 As we have signed Kai Ward who do we think the “Ginger Ninja” should have in his team? I’m guessing at Dan & Joe, but that still leaves 4 spots up for grabs? The issue is, if the points limit has been dramatically reduced surely the focus has got to be getting “value on their average” second strings where they can look at putting a couple of points on their average…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted February 19, 2021 Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 18 minutes ago, W9 Lion said: As we have signed Kai Ward who do we think the “Ginger Ninja” should have in his team? I’m guessing at Dan & Joe, but that still leaves 4 spots up for grabs? The issue is, if the points limit has been dramatically reduced surely the focus has got to be getting “value on their average” second strings where they can look at putting a couple of points on their average…. Press releases still point to the same team as initially announced with Hume removed due to points reduction and Dicken not wanting a NDL place (again). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W9 Lion Posted February 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Sings4Speedway said: Press releases still point to the same team as initially announced with Hume removed due to points reduction and Dicken not wanting a NDL place (again). So who do you think will be the additional rider? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted February 19, 2021 Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 Just now, W9 Lion said: So who do you think will be the additional rider? All depends on what the actual points limit is? Based on 35 then Jamie Halder would be a good addition as a strong second string anything less than that and its likely another 3 pointer either new to league or failure from previous attempts. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac101 Posted February 19, 2021 Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 jamie halder is a perfect fit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smithchops Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 Got to be the Terrible Twins surely .., ?? I thought RTD made good progress in 2019, what about him ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted February 22, 2021 Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 Nasty rumour circulating that Chattin has been released as the Cubs want a younger reserve! The obsession with young riders is bordering on disturbing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandelion Posted February 22, 2021 Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Sings4Speedway said: Nasty rumour circulating that Chattin has been released as the Cubs want a younger reserve! The obsession with young riders is bordering on disturbing. Mickie Simpson perhaps? Is luke Whitehead still knocking around? Although he might be too old by now!! Not a teenager Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillwhitewasmad Posted February 22, 2021 Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Sings4Speedway said: Nasty rumour circulating that Chattin has been released as the Cubs want a younger reserve! The obsession with young riders is bordering on disturbing. It's definitely an odd time sport is trying to give young riders a chance yet it's seemingly at the expense of an older rider who is still trying to find his level 8 minutes ago, Dandelion said: Mickie Simpson perhaps? Is luke Whitehead still knocking around? Although he might be too old by now!! Not a teenager Mickie would be a good shout probably only slightly behind Sam McGurk and Archie Freeman in the new rider category. Only downfall could be his machinery. Good luck to him though he is a trier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted February 22, 2021 Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, Dandelion said: Mickie Simpson perhaps? Is luke Whitehead still knocking around? Although he might be too old by now!! Not a teenager The point i was making is that ditching a 22 year old for a rider who is just younger isnt on. What about signing riders because they are good enough. Many moan at falling standards and yet seem insistant that any 16 year old with a bike gets a place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac101 Posted February 22, 2021 Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 (edited) 47 minutes ago, phillwhitewasmad said: It's definitely an odd time sport is trying to give young riders a chance yet it's seemingly at the expense of an older rider who is still trying to find his level all riders really need to start at reserve to give them confidence with racing riders of the same 3 point caliber getting a couple of points in your first heats makes a lot of difference to the head and the rest of the meeting we have mostly rode at number 2 last few years but managed to creep over the 3 point ave once to 3.5 ,being in ht 1 is a hard one with a couple of heat leaders so your struggling for that 1 point usually and end up only getting 3 rides because the reserve is banging in points when we dropped to reserve we did 3 meetings won the reserve race in the 3 meetings plus a few more points as you get a couple races against the other reserve always a different rider when you win the reserve race or follow your partner home and that gives you a bit of confidence going into your next one Edited February 22, 2021 by mac101 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 On 2/22/2021 at 6:55 PM, Sings4Speedway said: Nasty rumour circulating that Chattin has been released as the Cubs want a younger reserve! The obsession with young riders is bordering on disturbing. In any other job in the country that would be age discrimination & illegal, how is speedway any different? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 9 hours ago, szkocjasid said: In any other job in the country that would be age discrimination & illegal, how is speedway any different? Because immoral is one of the grounding rules for speedway. Sadly will be very difficult to prove as i doubt anyone ahs put anything in writing but disgusting actions non the less. If it had been due to better options available or we had a few match races at a practice day and the younger rider fared better then fair enough but i suspect the Cubs tails will be pretty long and clumsy this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 On 2/22/2021 at 6:55 PM, Sings4Speedway said: Nasty rumour circulating that Chattin has been released as the Cubs want a younger reserve! The obsession with young riders is bordering on disturbing. Unfortunate when other clubs are sticking with the 7 they had in 2020 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, Islander15 said: Unfortunate when other clubs are sticking with the 7 they had in 2020 Sadly i don't think anyone will be able to track the 1-7 they had planned due to the points reduction but if a better option becomes available or comes of age to do league racing it could be considered justified but age based rather than ability based just isn't on. Complaints that the sport is being diluted or the NDL is full of "wobblers" just gains traction when the best available riders are not those who are being given the team places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 So Ben Trigger is the younger model that’s replaced Chattin. Harsh on Chattin but I understand this move more than I initially did as Trigger would’ve been 14 last season so ineligible but turns 15 for this season. Had things have been normal then Trigger would be in for this season anyway. Tough on Chattin and I hope he gets fixed up somewhere else and tbf enough other teams must need 3.00 reserves with the awfully low points limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 13 minutes ago, Islander15 said: So Ben Trigger is the younger model that’s replaced Chattin. Harsh on Chattin but I understand this move more than I initially did as Trigger would’ve been 14 last season so ineligible but turns 15 for this season. Had things have been normal then Trigger would be in for this season anyway. Tough on Chattin and I hope he gets fixed up somewhere else and tbf enough other teams must need 3.00 reserves with the awfully low points limit. Very harsh on Chattin. Not seen any evidence that Trigger is ready to make the jump from 125's to 500's both physically and mentally but i hope he proves me wrong. A lot fresh riders into the league this year and those who looked to be ready for improvement are being pushed aside, Chattin will have to be patient in case a mid season place opens up but at 22 is he really considered over the hill now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 2 hours ago, Sings4Speedway said: Very harsh on Chattin. Not seen any evidence that Trigger is ready to make the jump from 125's to 500's both physically and mentally but i hope he proves me wrong. A lot fresh riders into the league this year and those who looked to be ready for improvement are being pushed aside, Chattin will have to be patient in case a mid season place opens up but at 22 is he really considered over the hill now. Of course Chattin shouldn’t be, but there’s an obsession lately at only prioritising kids and that every rider should be on an upward curve. No, we should support all British riders that are willing to ride and commit to a full league campaign. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flagrag Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 Both Ben Trigger and James Chattin were regulars at Leicester open practice sessions in 2020 which gave the promotion to look at both riders. Chattin did seem to struggle with the Leicester track at times both in his guest appearances and when I have seen him at practice with a few big crashes. But he is a lovely guy so I am sure that he will get another team place 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 On 2/22/2021 at 6:55 PM, Sings4Speedway said: Nasty rumour circulating that Chattin has been released as the Cubs want a younger reserve! The obsession with young riders is bordering on disturbing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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