stevehone Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 On 2/3/2021 at 8:59 PM, Neila said: Isn't that how you make more money on traveling expenses ?? only if you can negotiate and not take the set rate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 3 hours ago, Marshall07 said: I think he should. He's never had a proper crack at Championship level and has been away for 10 years. Certainly a better choice than some there that have been around years and not progressed That’s the problem when you create titles like “rising star “I can be interpreted in so many ways.Wish Greg the best of luck whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted February 5, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 I wonder if Mitch Davey might make a comeback ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted March 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 I'm baffled as to why Conor Mountain hasn't been signed up in the CL ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted March 15, 2021 Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, GiveusaB said: I'm baffled as to why Conor Mountain hasn't been signed up in the CL ? Likewise. For Connor i hope he has 2-3 clubs involved in a bidding war for his services and is working out just how many new bikes he needs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted March 15, 2021 Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, GiveusaB said: I'm baffled as to why Conor Mountain hasn't been signed up in the CL ? Definitely a strange one? Edited March 15, 2021 by ruffdiamond 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnybegood Posted March 15, 2021 Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 Plymouth was too far to travel on a weekday I am told 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leander Posted March 15, 2021 Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 4 hours ago, GiveusaB said: I'm baffled as to why Conor Mountain hasn't been signed up in the CL ? Ah yes! A "rising star" who was perfectly placed to take the next step onwards in his career until............the "rising Star" program was introduced resulting in him being forced out of his team place by an ill conceived idea. Which means a bright British prospect is out of a job with little chance of a place in any league as he has too high a rising star rating for the championship. Too high an average for the NDL (i. e. Conference league) thanks to the absolutely ludicrous 35 point limit the powers that be have introduced there. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted March 15, 2021 Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 1 hour ago, leander said: Ah yes! A "rising star" who was perfectly placed to take the next step onwards in his career until............the "rising Star" program was introduced resulting in him being forced out of his team place by an ill conceived idea. Not really sure how he was forced out of his team place because of that, maybe there's more to it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leander Posted March 15, 2021 Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 1 hour ago, ruffdiamond said: Not really sure how he was forced out of his team place because of that, maybe there's more to it? Somebody had to go, otherwise we would have been comfortably under the NDL 35 point limit!!!!!! (in the championship). Don't see why 4* rising stars can't ride in the championship as part of the program. just knock another point off the rest of the team building. Be interesting to see how many are lost when they lose confidence after finding they are out of their depth, like the last time they tried something like this. Â 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted March 15, 2021 Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 33 minutes ago, leander said: Somebody had to go, otherwise we would have been comfortably under the NDL 35 point limit!!!!!! (in the championship). Don't see why 4* rising stars can't ride in the championship as part of the program. just knock another point off the rest of the team building. Be interesting to see how many are lost when they lose confidence after finding they are out of their depth, like the last time they tried something like this. Â Yeah, but we were having to replace 2 riders anyway, Skorja and Smetana,,, so maybe the timing of things didn't work out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enotian Posted March 15, 2021 Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 3 hours ago, ruffdiamond said: Yeah, but we were having to replace 2 riders anyway, Skorja and Smetana,,, so maybe the timing of things didn't work out? Agreed. Not just the points points limit or rising star programme to blame. Mountain would still have fitted within the points limit even with Barker in the team. Perhaps the loan fee was prohibitive? Shame as he could have progressed.  The Diamonds team would be competitive with him as the Rising Star. Actually surprised he didn't get the rising star spot at Kings Lynn? Surely he'll get a place at Birmingham, Redcar or Scunthorpe?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyHonestJohn Posted March 15, 2021 Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, enotian said: Agreed. Not just the points points limit or rising star programme to blame. Mountain would still have fitted within the points limit even with Barker in the team. Perhaps the loan fee was prohibitive? Shame as he could have progressed.  The Diamonds team would be competitive with him as the Rising Star. Actually surprised he didn't get the rising star spot at Kings Lynn? Surely he'll get a place at Birmingham, Redcar or Scunthorpe?? It was soley down the the Rising Star programme that Conner got cut... it had been stated that he was to be graded as a 3 star then there was a change of tack and the rest as they say is history... Regards THJ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enotian Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 26 minutes ago, TotallyHonestJohn said: It was soley down the the Rising Star programme that Conner got cut... it had been stated that he was to be graded as a 3 star then there was a change of tack and the rest as they say is history... Regards THJ There was still a choice though wasn't there. Mountain could have been retained ahead of Roynon or Wright. If, as you suggest, a decision was made assuming Mountain would be the 3* #7 then someone messed up. When that became clear the choice between Mountain, Roynon and Wright could still have been made at that point. Although this doesn't stack up for me given they've then gone for a 1* NDL 2nd string at #7. Admittedly the other 3*'s are nowhere near Mountain standard but if that was the plan and budget then I'd have expected another option at #7. Kinsley for example.    Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 6 hours ago, TotallyHonestJohn said: It was soley down the the Rising Star programme that Conner got cut... it had been stated that he was to be graded as a 3 star then there was a change of tack and the rest as they say is history... Regards THJ Ahh,,, its starting to make sense now, even if it doesn't make sense. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skodaman Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 20 hours ago, TotallyHonestJohn said: It was soley down the the Rising Star programme that Conner got cut... it had been stated that he was to be graded as a 3 star then there was a change of tack and the rest as they say is history... Regards THJ Surely, he was cut before the Rising Star system was introduced. He was cut because Barker was free due to Somerset not riding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyHonestJohn Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 On 3/15/2021 at 7:39 PM, ruffdiamond said: Yeah, but we were having to replace 2 riders anyway, Skorja and Smetana,,, so maybe the timing of things didn't work out?  1 hour ago, Skodaman said: Surely, he was cut before the Rising Star system was introduced. He was cut because Barker was free due to Somerset not riding. Nope... as Ruff pointed out earlier in this thread we had two places to fill and Conner was in and part of the team until the Rising Star programme was released... The only reason Conner got cut was down to this ill conceived idea and for no other reason whatsoever... the club didnt want to swap him out for sure... However his loss was a lucky break for Joe Alcock... let's hope Joe can grab it with both hands and he realises his potential... hopefully Dave Tatum has seen something in this kid at Stoke that others have missed... I would be pleased if he can achieve and score his average of 2 each week and if he could increase that by say 50% and end up with an average of 3 would be a fantastic achievement... Maybe wishful thinking again but I hope he can rise to the challenge and more than anything else stay fit and injury free... Regards THJ  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted March 17, 2021 Report Share Posted March 17, 2021 was Connor not on the rising star list because his average is too high or did he refuse the conditions and get blackballed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyHonestJohn Posted March 17, 2021 Report Share Posted March 17, 2021 Connor is on the Rising Star programme as a 4 star rider because of his average and Championship Clubs can only have a 3 star rising star or less Regards THJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 3 hours ago, TotallyHonestJohn said: Connor is on the Rising Star programme as a 4 star rider because of his average and Championship Clubs can only have a 3 star rising star or less Regards THJ thanks for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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