slyfox Posted February 14, 2021 Report Share Posted February 14, 2021 What average is Jason Crump joining Plymouth on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac101 Posted February 14, 2021 Report Share Posted February 14, 2021 On 2/14/2021 at 8:54 PM, slyfox said: What average is Jason Crump joining Plymouth on? Expand 12 was what other clubs were told when they enquired about his services Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted February 14, 2021 Report Share Posted February 14, 2021 On 2/14/2021 at 9:39 PM, mac101 said: 12 was what other clubs were told when they enquired about his services Expand If that’s correct it makes a mockery of any conversion factor for doubling-up or down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted February 14, 2021 Report Share Posted February 14, 2021 On 2/14/2021 at 9:39 PM, mac101 said: 12 was what other clubs were told when they enquired about his services Expand I am guessing there has been a rule change as his average should be higher, making him ineligible for the championship. Anyone with an average higher than 12 must come in on a 12point average, making the Championship open to anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyHonestJohn Posted February 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 On 2/14/2021 at 9:52 PM, NeilWatson said: If that’s correct it makes a mockery of any conversion factor for doubling-up or down. Expand How's that Neil? If he's an 8 in the top league times that by 1.5 and it makes him a 12 in this one... nowt wrong with that surely... Regards THJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted February 15, 2021 Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 On 2/15/2021 at 9:27 AM, TotallyHonestJohn said: How's that Neil? If he's an 8 in the top league times that by 1.5 and it makes him a 12 in this one... nowt wrong with that surely... Regards THJ Expand If he does come in on a 12, a wonder who will be the first rider to put a dint in it,,, unless he does it himself by taking a bonus point behind his partner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted February 15, 2021 Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 On 2/15/2021 at 9:27 AM, TotallyHonestJohn said: How's that Neil? If he's an 8 in the top league times that by 1.5 and it makes him a 12 in this one... nowt wrong with that surely... Regards THJ Expand If he’s an 8 I agree, if he’s 8.2 with a 1.6 conversion.... Maybe we’ll get the averages and rules soon :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted February 15, 2021 Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 On 2/15/2021 at 9:27 AM, TotallyHonestJohn said: How's that Neil? If he's an 8 in the top league times that by 1.5 and it makes him a 12 in this one... nowt wrong with that surely... Regards THJ Expand Last year the conversion was Prem average = 60% of Champ average So if crump's Prem average is 8............ 8 /0.6 = 13.33 = Champ average Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyHonestJohn Posted February 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 (edited) On 2/15/2021 at 12:40 PM, eric i said: Last year the conversion was Prem average = 60% of Champ average So if crump's Prem average is 8............ 8 /0.6 = 13.33 = Champ average Expand I have been advised that the 1.5 conversion rate has not changed this season as was proposed at the 2019 BSPL meeting which stated they were going to put the conversion rate up by 0.1 each year until it go to 2.0... so last year 1.6 and this year 1.7 but that idea has apparently fallen by the way-side... However it will be interesting to see if anyone in the Championship tries to pick up Troy Batch who has said he would like to race in both leagues as he is on an 8.82 and he converts out to a Championship busting average of 13.23 Regards THJ Edited February 15, 2021 by TotallyHonestJohn missed out key words 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted February 15, 2021 Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 On 2/15/2021 at 1:47 PM, TotallyHonestJohn said: However it will be interesting to see if anyone in the Championship tries to pick up Troy Batch who has said he would like to race in both leagues as he is on an 8.82 and he converts out to a Championship busting average of 13.23 Regards THJ Expand A remember reading that and, the first thing to spring to my mind was,,, a really do wonder if the riders are aware of the rules regarding averages? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted February 15, 2021 Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 (edited) On 2/15/2021 at 12:40 PM, eric i said: Last year the conversion was Prem average = 60% of Champ average So if crump's Prem average is 8............ 8 /0.6 = 13.33 = Champ average Expand The conversion in that case would be 8 * 1.6 = 12.8, (or 8 / 1.6 = 5 CL to PL), however that may be a moot point given THJ’s post above. Edited February 15, 2021 by NeilWatson Clarity 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted February 15, 2021 Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 On 2/15/2021 at 2:56 PM, NeilWatson said: The conversion in that case would be 8 * 1.6 = 12.8, (or 8 / 1.6 = 5 CL to PL), however that may be a moot point given THJ’s post above. Expand 8 is not 60% of 12.8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted February 15, 2021 Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 (edited) On 2/15/2021 at 3:09 PM, eric i said: 8 is not 60% of 12.8. Expand No, its 10/16ths or 5/8ths. or 62.5% Edited February 15, 2021 by ruffdiamond 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyHonestJohn Posted February 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 (edited) On 2/15/2021 at 3:09 PM, eric i said: 8 is not 60% of 12.8. Expand Because its not a percentage of the/a number/average its a multiplier or divisor so 1.5 x (Times by) 8 = 12 and likewise 12/(Divided by)1.5 = 8 Times the Premiership number/average by 1.5 to obtain a Championship average... Divide the Championship number/average by 1.5 to achieve the desired result of a Premiership average... So in theory the highest convertible average from the Premiership to the Championship is 8.00... any rider above this cant (again in theory) double down... unless he gets his average to 8.00 or lower... Regards THJ Edited February 15, 2021 by TotallyHonestJohn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted February 15, 2021 Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 (edited) On 2/15/2021 at 3:09 PM, eric i said: 8 is not 60% of 12.8. Expand Correct, my point is that the conversion factor is 1.6, not 60% as you stated. CL average multiplied by 1.6 to get PL average, PL average divided by 1.6 to get CL average (or whatever the factor is, maybe 1.5) Posted before I read down to THJ's post Edited February 15, 2021 by NeilWatson 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted February 15, 2021 Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 On 2/15/2021 at 4:56 PM, NeilWatson said: CL average multiplied by 1.6 to get PL average, PL average divided by 1.6 to get CL average (or whatever the factor is, maybe 1.5) Posted before I read down to THJ's post Expand A think you might be getting confused Neil? Surely its, CL average divided by 1.? to get PL average and, PL average multiplied by 1.? to get CL average? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted February 15, 2021 Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 Regardless of averages, l cannot imagine ANY Championship promoter not wanting Jason Crump coming to their track this year with Plymouth. He will be a huge boost for the league's profile and a huge turnstile-spinner at every club hosting the Gladiators. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted February 15, 2021 Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 (edited) There will probably be an announcement that for Team Building purposes (and to assist Plymouth in tracking a reasonable team) the maximum Championship rider average will be 12.00 The actual (converted) average will probably be used in the rolling averages calculation once enough fixtures have been completed. Where theres a will theres a way!!!!! Edited February 15, 2021 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted February 15, 2021 Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 On 2/15/2021 at 6:51 PM, Skidder1 said: There will probably be an announcement that for Team Building purposes (and to assist Plymouth in tracking a reasonable team) the maximum Championship rider. average will be 12.00 The actual (converted) average will be used in the rolling averages calculation. Expand That's a reasonable proposal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted February 15, 2021 Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 On 2/15/2021 at 6:40 PM, ruffdiamond said: A think you might be getting confused Neil? Surely its, CL average divided by 1.? to get PL average and, PL average multiplied by 1.? to get CL average? Expand Certainly is! Doh...... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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