Ben91 Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 5 hours ago, iris123 said: I Heard- Stock Cars also have crap stadiums. Nothing to be compared with F1 Stock Car fans are in uproar because they like Stock Cars so think they should be racing at Silverstone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piotr Pyszny Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) 30 minutes ago, uk_martin said: I was well impressed by the Llanelli stadium that hosted the Wales v England match on Saturday. One sport on an upward trajectory and another sport on a downward spiral. The match, however, was the usual barely watchable, overhyped dross - scrum follows line out follows kick follows pick-and-drive - one expects from modern international rugby union. The backdrop to rugby league's Super League Grand Final, the previous evening, the KCOM Stadium, Hull, was pretty impressive, too. And the action on the pitch rather more interesting. On the point about grants for football clubs: much of that money was generated by football itself. Plenty has been made available to non-league and grassroots clubs. In terms of the quality of facilities, compared to other sports, it shows. The local authority-owned Shay, Halifax, track removed and rebuilt on one side and at both ends, is now a very smart stadium - something I'm afraid it never was when the Dukes were in residence. The town's football and rugby league clubs, co-tenants, are the beneficiaries. Sadly, most of British speedway's facilities are stuck about the period - mid-1980s - speedway finished at Halifax. Edited November 30, 2020 by Piotr Pyszny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Piotr Pyszny said: Sadly, most of British speedway's facilities are stuck about the period - mid-1980s - speedway finished at Halifax. As recently as the mid-1980s? Many years before that IMO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piotr Pyszny Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) 33 minutes ago, JohnHyam said: As recently as the mid-1980s? Many years before that IMO! Ha, ha. Some, I grant you, are more dilapidated than others. Edited November 30, 2020 by Piotr Pyszny 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 I believe if possible that the current numbers of stadiums will eventually become obsolete. Some may remain in private hands .. The sport should look to move to arenas on grass Circuits with shale - temporary seating - lower costs and family focused - cadets - juniors - teams - semi professional set up as community interest companies - as a proper constitution - with the broader focus on the community - families and re addressing the mistakes of the past and moving away from the old private individual owners business format . so profits can be reinvested into the sport - supporters clubs - memberships etc . Re - establish their sport under a new business model 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolskiZuzel Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 13 hours ago, Ben91 said: I know of a rich man who has a nice house and a poor man who has a not so nice house. ...and I know a poor man who doesn't have (own) a house at all. If he wants to have "an event" he has to rent it for one day in a week. He has no ways, or more precisely the money for improvement or modernisation, so his "do's" are staged at places which people less and less want to attend. No sitting , no proper loos facilities, but entry to it cost more money than an average working man wishes to part with. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 23 hours ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: I always felt that with the NSS they had a blank piece of paper and that’s the best they could come up with ? When you see something like Toruń or gorzow or even Łódź which are very basic in design but very effective and creates their own atmosphere even when you walk into them when they empty they give you a sense of a special place ,the NSS doesn’t do that, yeah, lets build a 10k plus seater stadium for a sport that attracts a couple of 1000 fans on a very good day 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 21 hours ago, JohnHyam said: Not sure but isn't the Ipswich motorsport stadium - speedway and oval track car racing - also council owned? I think that the present main stadium tenants - Spedeworth Motorsport - are there on a 100 year agreement (or something akin to that). I think the land that Leicester is built on is owned by the council and out on a 99 year lease 19 hours ago, iris123 said: When I go to WH Smiths, the football magazines are all right at the front, and if they have a Speedway Star at all, it is tucked away. I hope you move them all to the front doing your bit for the sport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 37 minutes ago, iainb said: I think the land that Leicester is built on is owned by the council and out on a 99 year lease I hope you move them all to the front doing your bit for the sport I do that in my Tesco. . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Phil The Ace said: yeah, lets build a 10k plus seater stadium for a sport that attracts a couple of 1000 fans on a very good day Łódź stadium is only slightly bigger capacity than Belle vue and is rarely over half full but has that wow factor about it, Belle vue is nice but no wow about its design, a speedway stadium should be like a gladiatorial arena, it should make you feel part of it and Belle vue doesn’t capture that although I will say it’s better on the back straight than in the seats Edited December 1, 2020 by THE DEAN MACHINE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: Łódź stadium is only slightly bigger capacity than Belle vue and is rarely over half full but has that wow factor about it, Belle vue is nice but no wow about its design Who, in this country, wouldn't give his right arm to be watching his weekly fix in a NSS type stadium? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 8 minutes ago, False dawn said: Who, in this country, wouldn't give his right arm to be watching his weekly fix in a NSS type stadium? Guess who hasn't seem 'live' UK speedway since 2005 - the last visit on a stadium recognised as one of the best for speedway. I'll keep my right arm thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 50 minutes ago, False dawn said: Who, in this country, wouldn't give his right arm to be watching his weekly fix in a NSS type stadium? Me, great track but stadium does nothing for me, hence the only time I go is when I’m working there either mechanic or other job, think I’ve been once just to watch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 The NSS looked great when it was full for the SWC a few years ago... In fact, stadiums look a hell of a lot better when full.... Speedway's stadiums look much worse given you see how many are in disrepair due simply to the lack of people hiding the issues... Fill them, which delivers a great atmosphere, and the lack of shiny new facilities wouldn't be an issue for a great many.. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skodaman Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 4 hours ago, iainb said: I think the land that Leicester is built on is owned by the council and out on a 99 year lease But the stadium is owned by David Hemsley! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 2 hours ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: Me, great track but stadium does nothing for me, hence the only time I go is when I’m working there either mechanic or other job, think I’ve been once just to watch Given the confines that were in place , ie space & finance, i think we should be extremely grateful that we have the NSS as it stands. I don't see any other areas of the country where anything any better is proposed currently. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotteringAround Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 2 hours ago, mikebv said: The NSS looked great when it was full for the SWC a few years ago... In fact, stadiums look a hell of a lot better when full.... Speedway's stadiums look much worse given you see how many are in disrepair due simply to the lack of people hiding the issues... Fill them, which delivers a great atmosphere, and the lack of shiny new facilities wouldn't be an issue for a great many.. Agree. The NSS, when full, is magnificent, and the track provides entertainment second to none. Plymouth Speedway Stadium might not match Arsenal's Emirates football ground, but I'd rather watch Speedway at Plymouth than Football at Arsenal. Having said that, Berwick Speedway is at least as good as Berwick Rangers football stadium. Poole Speedway is much better than Poole Town FC stadium. I'm sure we'd all like to have more state-of-the-art Speedway stadiums, but money talks, and you have to live within your means, and enjoy what you have. After all some people have rich lives and move to Mayfair, while others are stuck in Penge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 45 minutes ago, PotteringAround said: Agree. The NSS, when full, is magnificent, and the track provides entertainment second to none. Plymouth Speedway Stadium might not match Arsenal's Emirates football ground, but I'd rather watch Speedway at Plymouth than Football at Arsenal. Having said that, Berwick Speedway is at least as good as Berwick Rangers football stadium. Poole Speedway is much better than Poole Town FC stadium. I'm sure we'd all like to have more state-of-the-art Speedway stadiums, but money talks, and you have to live within your means, and enjoy what you have. After all some people have rich lives and move to Mayfair, while others are stuck in Penge. Always enjoyed my visits to Cowley and Swindon and Eastbourne on a warm Sunday afternoon. White City and Wimbledon were different again but personally what was happening on track was my priority in those days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedtiger Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 4 hours ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: Me, great track but stadium does nothing for me, hence the only time I go is when I’m working there either mechanic or other job, think I’ve been once just to watch You’ve got a serious problem Dean with your eyes...you can't see clearly as they are full of green envy. Be interesting to know your favourite UK stadium and why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 5 hours ago, False dawn said: Who, in this country, wouldn't give his right arm to be watching his weekly fix in a NSS type stadium? or even in a field with porta loos and if you are lucky , a burger van ! i would give my left thingy for any of that ....... . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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