IainB Posted October 19, 2021 Report Share Posted October 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: https://www.shropshirestar.com/sport/2021/10/08/freddie-lindgren-struck-down-by-long-covid/ Why didn't I think to check the Shropshire Star Thanks for the info (and Badge) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted October 19, 2021 Report Share Posted October 19, 2021 14 minutes ago, Badge said: Freddie is suffering from long covid and stopped riding after last gp. I suppose it makes a change from long season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted October 19, 2021 Report Share Posted October 19, 2021 7 hours ago, martinmauger said: Were GB lucky ? Yes, to an extent, on this occasion, but you need at least some good fortune to succeed. Peeps seem forget for years most GB team managers mostly didn't play with a full deck, literally. Joking aside over a longish period (2000 or so on) the GB squad was made up from the likes of Scott Nicholls, the late Lee Richardson, Mark Loram, Chris Louis, Carl Stonehewer, Joe Screen, Gary Havelock, David Norris, Sean Wilson, Simon Stead, Chris Harris, Tai Woffinden, the list goes on - a squad to kick serious behind on any track. But at any one time at least one or two of them were on the injured list. In recent years Woffinden was unavailable (his business, it happened) and was also out injured, unfortunately two of the remaining riders (Cook & Lambert) collided like Sweden did on the Friday night; effectively game over. When Woffinden also crashed out on Friday nite I thought, said and texted "oh no, not again !". But the next nite a ready-made replacement squad member stepped in; "Dan Bewley come on down and prepare for the meeting of your life !", and we all saw what happened. The remaining 3 stepped up, took the opportunities that occured, rode their hearts out, delivered - and how. Ok, Bewley rode his home track & the other 2 were at least familiar with Belle Vue NSS, but it was the same for everyone of course and the Poles in particular must have been rubbing their hands with glee on seeing the track; a Polish-style circuit in the UK. With due respect to the experienced GB riders, it was still possible for any them to suiffer falls, crash out big-style, tape exclusions, machine problems, etc, we all know what can happen in speedway, especially after witnessing their captain and leader get ruled out by a well-nasty crash. When Woffinden recovers + add Lambert, Bewley, Brennan and the likes of Drew Kemp, Leon Flint, The Thompson Twins, etc waiting in the wings the future for GB looks a heck of lot better than of late. This is our time right now, we have waited long enough, enjoy it is my advice, for next year everyone starts all over again. One last point: the GP series carries accumulated points scored through the season, replacing the one-off World Finals of old, yet the current SON format guarrantees a 'winner takes all race', like a one-off World Final.... Good post, plus Adam Ellis. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted October 19, 2021 Report Share Posted October 19, 2021 17 minutes ago, iainb said: Why didn't I think to check the Shropshire Star Thanks for the info (and Badge) I read it somewhere else but couldn't remember where, possibly the SGP website? Bizarrely when I googled him that was the first site that came up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGT Posted October 19, 2021 Report Share Posted October 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: I read it somewhere else but couldn't remember where, possibly the SGP website? Bizarrely when I googled him that was the first site that came up Google? How does that work then? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted October 19, 2021 Report Share Posted October 19, 2021 25 minutes ago, iainb said: Why didn't I think to check the Shropshire Star Thanks for the info (and Badge) I can't imagine how you missed it either. For Shropshire Star read Express & Star, for Express & Star read Wolverhampton, For Wolverhampton read Wolves Speedway, For Wolves Speedway read Freddie Lindgren. Simple really . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 19, 2021 Report Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Dave Jones said: I can't imagine how you missed it either. For Shropshire Star read Express & Star, for Express & Star read Wolverhampton, For Wolverhampton read Wolves Speedway, For Wolves Speedway read Freddie Lindgren. Simple really . ... Or just ask the forums... better than Google! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singy13 Posted October 19, 2021 Report Share Posted October 19, 2021 8 hours ago, martinmauger said: collided like Sweden did on the Friday night; effectively game over. When Woffinden also crashed out on Friday nite I thought, said and texted "oh no, not again !". Good post enjoyed reading ta.....................but your actually on wrong night/nite marra. (was Saturday/Sunday event) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw42 Posted October 19, 2021 Report Share Posted October 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, singy13 said: Good post enjoyed reading ta.....................but your actually on wrong night/nite marra. (was Saturday/Sunday event) Better than being 20years out though eh...marra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIRKYLANE Posted October 19, 2021 Report Share Posted October 19, 2021 The rules are set. why have a semi final and then a final ? Simple, it guarantees that Tv and the crowd gets a climax at the end of the meeting in exactly the same way as in the GPs have a Grand final race to decide the champion. I agree that we were helped by Janowski’s mistake..but the same would have been true if the roles had been reversed. It was great to see GB get a world team title. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted October 19, 2021 Report Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 hour ago, iainb said: I'll ask again... why was Freddie Lindgren not riding in the competition? Does anybody know, has it been stated in the press? I was following his van back up Hyde Road after the meeting on Sunday. He lent his van to Thorssell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singy13 Posted October 19, 2021 Report Share Posted October 19, 2021 33 minutes ago, nw42 said: Better than being 20years out though eh...marra Yeah for sure marra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenantony Posted October 19, 2021 Report Share Posted October 19, 2021 12 hours ago, PolskiZuzel said: The scoring system in SoN and its whole procedure is crazy. Can you imagine a football world cup final finishing in 3 : 0 for one team...and then to decide who is to be crowned world champion referee decides to have a penalty shoot out...Can anyone imagine this? because I can't, and yet in Speedway of Nations we have exactly this. Those who invented this should have their heads examined. Your World Cup analogy is fundamentally flawed - a team could win their qualifying group without conceding a goal, scoring double figures in every game - they then reach the finals. They play through a group and continue to score freely and score maximum points to make the last 16. They win this game and the quarter and semi finals all without conceding a goal - yet in the one off final game they meet a team who have been lucky to get there and lose the World Cup on penalties - does anyone apart from the sore losers look back and say 'Yes but.....?' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagonshocker Posted October 19, 2021 Report Share Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, PolskiZuzel said: Tell me...what losing one of the best riders in the world on day one has to do with the final race...I will continue to say that the British were lucky because Lambert and Bewley benefited on Janowski's misfortune. Oh booohooooooooo!!!!! Wasn't misfortune....he misjudged the 'speed' of Smarzlik in front and panicked...own error not misfortune Edited October 19, 2021 by hagonshocker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 19, 2021 Report Share Posted October 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, hagonshocker said: Oh booohooooooooo!!!!! Wasn't misfortune....he misjudged the 'speed' of Smarzlik in front and panicked...own error not misfortune GB were worthy winners,but all this criticism of Janowski is pathetic,he is total World class made a small error and suddenly he is useless and a bottler.Get a grip. Did Tai not make a small error on the 1st day. Anyway ,best wishes to Tai for speedy recovery. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted October 19, 2021 Report Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Fromafar said: GB were worthy winners,but all this criticism of Janowski is pathetic,he is total World class made a small error and suddenly he is useless and a bottler.Get a grip. Did Tai not make a small error on the 1st day. Anyway ,best wishes to Tai for speedy recovery. To be fair, Janowski is a bottle job. This is not the first time he's let his country down hence why he always gets left out usually. This may well have been his last chance as a Polish International 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinmauger Posted October 19, 2021 Report Share Posted October 19, 2021 5 hours ago, singy13 said: Good post enjoyed reading ta.....................but your actually on wrong night/nite marra. (was Saturday/Sunday event) Tis true but it's what happens when posting early in the a.m. when supposed to be working .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinmauger Posted October 19, 2021 Report Share Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, topaz325 said: Good post, plus Adam Ellis. Yeah forgot Ellis, GB future looks a tad better then .... Edited October 19, 2021 by martinmauger disgraceful ommision of rider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singy13 Posted October 19, 2021 Report Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 hour ago, martinmauger said: Tis true but it's what happens when posting early in the a.m. when supposed to be working .... Ha ha was still very readable.........and even though I don't work I'm equally guilty of typos...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singy13 Posted October 19, 2021 Report Share Posted October 19, 2021 7 hours ago, Trees said: Yes he got caught out by the muck against the fence which imo should be pulled down by track rakers, they are even more important now we have air fences! What happened to those rakers then ? I also remember at Derwent Park they scraped dirt off the white fencing on all four bends, probably to help with riders focus regarding track and fence? The air fences do get dirty too so as you say surely important to be cleaned? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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