cityrebel Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 It's a rare british speedway triumph. Enjoy it for what it is. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 25 minutes ago, idanthyrsus said: Not sure I saw it that way. From what I saw, Janowski went very wide on the 3rd bend. There was no need to as he was miles ahead of Bewley. He went so wide he couldn't turn the bike, so slowed down and then the front wheel bogged down in the mud. Zmarzlik was well ahead and going faster, so Janowski would never have caught up with him. Who knows what riders think when they make that split-second decision though. I saw it the same way as you ,don’t think Smarzlik baulked Janowski,he just got out a bit to wide with speed he past the 2 Brits.Smarzlik look for Janowski in most of their heats once they had sorted themselves out.Unlucky for the Poles but even they knew it was only about that one race.Well done to the Brits.Janowski may have been the 2nd best Pole but he scored 30 pts hardly a weak link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paleco Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 Winner is, who score 3rd most points. Great advertise for speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 13 hours ago, mikebv said: Come on now British Speedway. Dont balls this up and waste the opportunity to promote yourselves off the back of it... Rob Godfrey is probably sat in his caravan this very morning formulating a plan to bring British Speedway back to the big time! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzac Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 10 minutes ago, Paleco said: Winner is, who score 3rd most points. Great advertise for speedway. Surely no different to the playoffs in various countries and generally accepted, my team have had been on the right and wrong end of them, love it when it comes good, hated it when we came top and lost the playoffs, all part of speedway now, certainly seem to remember occasions where the top team in Poland didn't win the playoffs, 2 seasons ago? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, gazzac said: Slightly disappointing on the official website in the latest post congratulating team GB on their fantastic win, apart from his picture and name in the scorers, not a mention of Tom Brennen by name. Think 7 out if 8 points from his 2 rides deserved a mention, don't think we'd have qualified for the semis if he'd have scored 0,0. Although Brennan was unbeaten, GB would still have won if they didn't use an U-21 rider! Actually Poland would have still top scored with no reserve & Denmark also would have made top 3 with no reserve! U-21 riders made no difference to top 3! Edited October 18, 2021 by szkocjasid 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Gordon Pairman said: As neither the BSPL Chairman or Vice-Chairman thought the biggest speedway event held in Britain this year worthy of their attendance, it’s no wonder that the belated press release - nearly 14 hours after the event was completed - gets it wrong. Having overseen the near collapse of the NDL, the league that was one of the things that helped all four of the GB riders find their way in the sport, they should now bow their heads in shame and walk away. The disastrous last few years, with problems accelerated rather than caused by Covid has shown that vested interest in decision making is dragging British speedway down the road to ruin. The new GB Team operation shows what can be done with skill, initiative, forward planning and total commitment. They deserve to be supported by people who understand about sport at the highest level and what it takes to be successful. Spot on Gordon Pairman and the point about vested interest is worth mentioning again, until we have people with integrity and complete honesty the sport in this country will continue to get worse. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singy13 Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, Paleco said: Winner is, who score 3rd most points. Great advertise for speedway. Rugby League, which is by far better supported than speedway, always have play-offs in each of their 3 divisions. And it isn't guaranteed that the top team win the trophy.......as indeed St.Helens RLFC did this year after being second in their lg table..teams lower than that have won the final in the past. It makes for a popular and exciting season's finale. G.B. did of course enjoy some luck in the final race...but they'd beaten Poland in Heat 3 so fair does. Incidentally I think I'm correct in saying that the 4,3,2,0 speedway pairs format was the brainchild of the late, great, promoter Ian Thomas who introduced it to the second division pairs event so many years back.....and his Comets outfit loved it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzac Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 1 hour ago, gazzac said: Slightly disappointing on the official website in the latest post congratulating team GB on their fantastic win, apart from his picture and name in the scorers, not a mention of Tom Brennen by name. Think 7 out if 8 points from his 2 rides deserved a mention, don't think we'd have qualified for the semis if he'd have scored 0,0. 1 hour ago, arnieg said: GB finished 15 points ahead of Australia. Even if Kai Ward had ridden he'd have scored 4 points (both Brennan's races were against a single Swede). That would still have allowed us to squeeze into the semis by a mere 11 points. But you can't fault Tom Brennan, and he certainly delivered under pressure in his Sunday ride, and like you I am underwhelmed by the speedwaygb coverage of our victory. 5 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: Although Brennan was unbeaten, GB would still have won if they didn't use an U-21 rider! Ok, ok I was wrong, but hopefully it was the catalyst for Gordon's excellent post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, singy13 said: Rugby League, which is by far better supported than speedway, always have play-offs in each of their 3 divisions. And it isn't guaranteed that the top team win the trophy.......as indeed St.Helens RLFC did this year after being second in their lg table..teams lower than that have won the final in the past. It makes for a popular and exciting season's finale. G.B. did of course enjoy some luck in the final race...but they'd beaten Poland in Heat 3 so fair does. Incidentally I think I'm correct in saying that the 4,3,2,0 speedway pairs format was the brainchild of the late, great, promoter Ian Thomas who introduced it to the second division pairs event so many years back.....and his Comets outfit loved it. Did they beat the Poles on Sat though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 I still don't like the scoring system though. For me speedway is about winning. Why don't we have 4320 in league speedway if it's about 'the team'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 2 hours ago, GiveusaB said: Unbelievable result in the Final! However, what impressed me the most was the fact that 'we' beat arguably the form team of the day (Denmark) in a nerve jangling Semi-Final.... Our young HEROES showed incredible bottle/nerve and there was no luck involved, just pure 'CLASS'! P.s I would have been tempted to rest Lambert/Bewley in the 'nothing' final race against Australia...just in case ? (especially with Doyle in the race). I actually thought that, give Brennan another ride (in place of Lambert), also give Lambert time to clean his bike / cool his clutch etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, SPEEDY69 said: I still don't like the scoring system though. For me speedway is about winning. Why don't we have 4320 in league speedway if it's about 'the team'? I made that comment last year & got laughed at for my suggestion! If the pairs is 4-3-2-0 to encourage team riding / the best team rather than the best individual, why isn't every team match 4-3-2-0? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 The disappointing thing about the U-21 rule is after the heroics of Bewley to come in & win on the second day, he'll probably be dropped for 2022! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 1 hour ago, arnieg said: GB finished 15 points ahead of Australia. Even if Kai Ward had ridden he'd have scored 4 points (both Brennan's races were against a single Swede). That would still have allowed us to squeeze into the semis by a mere 11 points. But you can't fault Tom Brennan, and he certainly delivered under pressure in his Sunday ride, and like you I am underwhelmed by the speedwaygb coverage of our victory. I think that the BSPL dont have any input anymore to Team Great Britain do they? If that is correct.... It probably goes a long way in explaining the success last night... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 It’s being scrapped after next year which is a blessing IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted October 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Fromafar said: It’s being scrapped after next year which is a blessing IMO. What is being scrapped ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lucifer sam Posted October 18, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Fromafar said: It’s being scrapped after next year which is a blessing IMO. What is? The World Cup returns in 2023 and will held every three years. The Speedway Of Nations will still operate in the other seasons. Can't believe the moaning on here. GB win for the first time in 32 years and people still find something to moan about. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 Just now, lucifer sam said: What is? The World Cup returns in 2023 and will held every three years. The Speedway Of Nations will still operate in the other seasons. Can't believe the moaning on here. GB win for the first time in 32 years and people still find something to moan about. Apologies I have misunderstood what I read.Irrespective of who wins its I don’t think it is well thought out format,even the semifinals. Crowds were poor at Semi finals perhaps needs a revamp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARK246 Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Apologies I have misunderstood what I read.Irrespective of who wins its I don’t think it is well thought out format,even the semifinals. Crowds were poor at Semi finals perhaps needs a revamp. The whole idea of SON was to allow a lesser nation the chance to win, it works 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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