mikebv Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 I love how in 2021, what was the most ridiculous system in 2018, is now the perfect way to decide the SON..... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIRKYLANE Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 In the Grand Prix, a rider can scrape through to the semis with 8 or 9 points, come second in his semi and then win the final to be a Grand Prix champion… These are the rules. Team GB won fair and square. Excellent prtformance and result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 On 10/16/2021 at 9:42 PM, bigcatdiary said: Any exclusion or retirement in the final and they lose it doesn’t matter how many points they are in front. It’s got to be magic. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 Just woke up,had to watch the final race again to make sure I hadn't dreamt it.What a night I love it,just love it.Get in there boys,will some of those have sore heads this morning 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 What a magic night that was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 2 hours ago, mikebv said: I love how in 2021, what was the most ridiculous system in 2018, is now the perfect way to decide the SON..... It still is a ridiculous system. But Russia were rightful winners AND GB are rightful winners. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post iris123 Posted October 18, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 A thought came to me of all those fans who missed the night Well one person, Phil Rising, who was as patriotic as the next. He would have loved the moment 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 (edited) Unbelievable result in the Final! However, what impressed me the most was the fact that 'we' beat arguably the form team of the day (Denmark) in a nerve jangling Semi-Final.... Our young HEROES showed incredible bottle/nerve and there was no luck involved, just pure 'CLASS'! P.s I would have been tempted to rest Lambert/Bewley in the 'nothing' final race against Australia...just in case ? (especially with Doyle in the race). Edited October 18, 2021 by GiveusaB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 8 hours ago, Garry1603 said: Yes, you're right. In the past a Best Pairs event )which this effectively was) would be won by a 'Star' rider getting 16/17/18 points with a back up getting around 10 points - that would be enough for victory, but this system of 'avoid getting a last' encourages a more consistent second rider to win - and we did it very well. Well done Team GB Spot on... It is effectively a "Best Pairs' event rather than a "Best Rider" event. Coming last delivers you zero points, meaning to be successful 'the team' needs to avoid doing it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 11 minutes ago, iris123 said: A thought came to me of all those fans who missed the night Well one person, Phil Rising, who was as patriotic as the next. He would have loved the moment I noticed his name was on the inside of a handlebar cover yesterday 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.V 72 Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 (edited) I had almost forgot the feeling of supporting the winning team it feels f##king awesome.Thank you boys for a great weekends racing. 32 years for a team GB win. 28 years for a Belle vue league win Edited October 18, 2021 by B.V 72 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzac Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 (edited) Slightly disappointing on the official website in the latest post congratulating team GB on their fantastic win, apart from his picture and name in the scorers, not a mention of Tom Brennen by name. Think 7 out if 8 points from his 2 rides deserved a mention, don't think we'd have qualified for the semis if he'd have scored 0,0. Edited October 18, 2021 by gazzac 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endeavour Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 Well done to our boys. Terrible way for Poles to lose final . Felt sorry for Janowski, him and Smarzlik going for same bit of track. Would love if we went back to four riders (and reserve) in a team. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gordon Pairman Posted October 18, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, gazzac said: Slightly disappointing on the official website in the latest post congratulating team GB on their fantastic win, apart from his picture and name in the scorers, not a mention of Tom Brennen by name. Think 7 out if 8 points from his 2 rides deserved a mention, don't think we'd have qualified for the semis if he'd have scored 0,0. As neither the BSPL Chairman or Vice-Chairman thought the biggest speedway event held in Britain this year worthy of their attendance, it’s no wonder that the belated press release - nearly 14 hours after the event was completed - gets it wrong. Having overseen the near collapse of the NDL, the league that was one of the things that helped all four of the GB riders find their way in the sport, they should now bow their heads in shame and walk away. The disastrous last few years, with problems accelerated rather than caused by Covid has shown that vested interest in decision making is dragging British speedway down the road to ruin. The new GB Team operation shows what can be done with skill, initiative, forward planning and total commitment. They deserve to be supported by people who understand about sport at the highest level and what it takes to be successful. 34 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 20 minutes ago, gazzac said: Slightly disappointing on the official website in the latest post congratulating team GB on their fantastic win, apart from his picture and name in the scorers, not a mention of Tom Brennen by name. Think 7 out if 8 points from his 2 rides deserved a mention, don't think we'd have qualified for the semis if he'd have scored 0,0. GB finished 15 points ahead of Australia. Even if Kai Ward had ridden he'd have scored 4 points (both Brennan's races were against a single Swede). That would still have allowed us to squeeze into the semis by a mere 11 points. But you can't fault Tom Brennan, and he certainly delivered under pressure in his Sunday ride, and like you I am underwhelmed by the speedwaygb coverage of our victory. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 1 hour ago, tellboy said: Just woke up,had to watch the final race again to make sure I hadn't dreamt it.What a night I love it,just love it.Get in there boys,will some of those have sore heads this morning Still got a test match at Glasgow tomorrow, then I think there might be some celebrating after Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cheese Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 Well done to all involved with Team GB, especially the 4 riders. Unfortunate that Woffinden couldn't be there given that he pushed so hard for the professional setup they have now. Tough on Poland given they finished so far in front but that's the way it goes sometimes. Always felt that whoever faced them in the final had a good chance against Janowski. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 24 minutes ago, Endeavour said: Well done to our boys. Terrible way for Poles to lose final . Felt sorry for Janowski, him and Smarzlik going for same bit of track. Would love if we went back to four riders (and reserve) in a team. Unfortunately, a lot of the competing countries don't have 4 capable riders at that level.... Certainly didnt feel sorry for the Poles ! Regarding those that say we were lucky? Tell me what was lucky about losing one of the best riders in the world on day one? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idanthyrsus Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 8 hours ago, Pirate Nick said: IMO it was Zmarzlik who lost the Poles the final. He drifted wide cutting off Janowkis’ run around the outside. Janowski has rolled off to avoid contact but he was in the dirt by then and as we saw rolling off in the dirt is never a good idea. It’s a pairs event and Zmarzlik should have had been looking for where his partner was rather than racing his own race. Not sure I saw it that way. From what I saw, Janowski went very wide on the 3rd bend. There was no need to as he was miles ahead of Bewley. He went so wide he couldn't turn the bike, so slowed down and then the front wheel bogged down in the mud. Zmarzlik was well ahead and going faster, so Janowski would never have caught up with him. Who knows what riders think when they make that split-second decision though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singy13 Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, NSS1 said: no one beat him all weekend Madsen in heat 7.......just trawled back, see your previous posts, sorry marra. Edited October 18, 2021 by singy13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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