krompa Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 Berntzon to replace Aspgren/Thorssell tomorrow according to Przegląd Sportowy. https://www.przegladsportowy.pl/zuzel/zuzel-jacob-thorssell-nie-pojedzie-w-2-finale-son-za-niego-berntzon/pnjrb52 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryW Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, krompa said: Berntzon to replace Aspgren/Thorssell tomorrow according to Przegląd Sportowy. https://www.przegladsportowy.pl/zuzel/zuzel-jacob-thorssell-nie-pojedzie-w-2-finale-son-za-niego-berntzon/pnjrb52 Was Berntzon in the Swedish "squad"? The SoN website doesn't have him listed in the squad. Is their website just rubbish and didn't update to include a squad change when Freddie withdrew, or have they been given some special permission to use him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krompa Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, HenryW said: Was Berntzon in the Swedish "squad"? The SoN website doesn't have him listed in the squad. Is their website just rubbish and didn't update to include a squad change when Freddie withdrew, or have they been given some special permission to use him? Must be special permission IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryW Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, krompa said: Must be special permission IMO. If that's the case, it's finally a nice example of speedway doing the right thing, rather than a strict "rulebook" thing. The Swedes started well and got destroyed in their 2nd race. No-one wants to see 3 rider races through day 2, so it's great if they can have 2 riders on track on Sunday. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 hour ago, HenryW said: I've just watched it as well, and I am wondering what you consider a pass. 6 passes in that race? Really? So, it's not just me wondering that, then? 1 hour ago, HenryW said: As an aside, I am suprised by the number of posts writing Smarzlik...The boy is a double World Champ and absolutely on top of his game. Is it so hard to get his name right when it's shown on the TV so many times? Or am I missing some joke? NOTHING annoys me more than constant misspelling of names - often simple ones (like "Nicky Pederson" or "Lee Richardsson")... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryW Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 40 minutes ago, chunky said: NOTHING annoys me more than constant misspelling of names - often simple ones (like "Nicky Pederson" or "Lee Richardsson")... Agreed...The one that upsets me most, as a huge fan of his from back in the day, is "Eric" Gundersen. It's a K, not a C....I know it's a trivial thing, but he's one of the absolute greats of the sport...It's not hard to get his name right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 26 minutes ago, HenryW said: Agreed...The one that upsets me most, as a huge fan of his from back in the day, is "Eric" Gundersen. It's a K, not a C....I know it's a trivial thing, but he's one of the absolute greats of the sport...It's not hard to get his name right It's RESPECT... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 (edited) The difference between racing last night and most of this years GPs is clear. I have already wiped out most of this years GPs from my recorder, some straight after the meeting. Last nights SON has not been wiped out and will no doubt be viewed a number of times during the winter months. It doesn’t matter how many overtakes there was in a race, Denmark v Australia has been highlighted. There was a lot of very close racing. That race between Den and Aussie, for the first two laps you could throw a blanket over all four, for the last two laps you could throw a blanket over the first three. Wembley was a poor race track, a lot of races were spread out. For sure there was good races, but very few would have been like that Den v Aussie race, and others from last night. What made Wembley was the atmosphere, 70,000 plus fans made it a great night. Edited October 17, 2021 by OveFundinFan 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 2 hours ago, OveFundinFan said: The difference between racing last night and most of this years GPs is clear. I have already wiped out most of this years GPs from my recorder, some straight after the meeting. Last nights SON has not been wiped out and will no doubt be viewed a number of times during the winter months. It doesn’t matter how many overtakes there was in a race, Denmark v Australia has been highlighted. There was a lot of very close racing. That race between Den and Aussie, for the first two laps you could throw a blanket over all four, for the last two laps you could throw a blanket over the first three. Wembley was a poor race track, a lot of races were spread out. For sure there was good races, but very few would have been like that Den v Aussie race, and others from last night. What made Wembley was the atmosphere, 70,000 plus fans made it a great night. Spot on... Last night had plenty of races with plenty of interest... Not sure when "how much passing there was" became the only barometer of whether a Speedway meeting was good or not, but, as you say, you can have great races which have no passes whatsoever.. Watching riders entering the bends flat out at such terrific speed, constantly swapping lines trying to find grip, with all four often within less than 10 yards of each other was great to watch... And at an average of £22.50 each for me and my lad per meeting, incredible value for money.. Hope the current heavy downpour doesnt make the track too grippy that it becomes like riding on rails on the inside, as that wont be great for the quality of racing.. Last night we had times at circa 65 seconds plus. If the track is grippy there will be a fair few seconds taken off those times by the out of sight winners.. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted October 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 (edited) Today`s 2nd day (Sunday) links http://kergel.ucoz.lv/ http://www.drhtv.com.pl/drhtv-4.html http://assia.org/live/mix3/?lang=pl https://daddylive.me/channels/stream-33.php https://daddylive.me/stream/stream-73.php http://cricfree.live/update/bt3.php Edited October 17, 2021 by racers and royals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinh88 Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 Great meeting, really enjoyed it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WembleyLion Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, Grachan said: Second and third place wins the final surely. Isn't that the whole point of the scoring system? Where are people getting the idea from that a heat win will win the final? Agreed. I think it might help though if the basic rules were clearly published in the programme (I acknowledge there is a flow chart on page 10 that assists) or on the SON website as it might help to stop the guessing and confusion. Talking of the programme the score chart is very poor with no place for recording times or total scores for individual riders. Edited October 17, 2021 by WembleyLion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrs Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 I found it very enjoyable last night. If you missed the gate you still had a good chance of making up ground. Difficult to prepare a track for two consecutive days of racing at this time of year with moisture in the ground and rain around. Hard slick tracks still provide good racing as we see in Poland regularly. Gutted forTai and the Swedes and yes, I do believe that Doyle caused both incidents, especially the first one as you see him look behind twice at the approaching Swedes on his outside and he cleverly drifted out to leave no racing room. As someone said earlier he is replacing Freddie and Pedersen as the rider you don't want to be on the outside of. Apart from those incidents, thoroughly enjoyed the close racing and full marks to Tom Brennan and Hellestom-Bangs , they were both superb especially the latter having to take on the whole world of speedway by himself, he should get a medal for his efforts. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 (edited) 15 hours ago, Panthers99 said: Actually boring to watch this 15 hours ago, nw42 said: There is some excitement but it's woefully short of what we saw on Monday night, such a shame that they've allowed the track to be made a mess of. I've just been back and read through the early posts due to the hysteria in the later posts calling for people to be banned from the forum because they thought the racing was no good. I can only find 1 post saying it's boring and another saying not as good as Monday. I think the main gripe was that practice was held so late that it didn't allow for time for the track to be prepped properly like it should have been for a World Championship event. Consequently the track had one line about an inch from the fence. So instead of riders passing inside and out with ease like we saw was doable on Monday evening we saw Desperate Dan kamikaze moves. If the dirt line hadn't been so wide Tai would not have been making that move, we all know he likes a cut back. PHB riding too wide, because it was the only line. Can't remember the Swedes crash but they were also pretty wide. I've seen quite a few meetings at BV over the years and you just don't see crashes, thankfully as it's a blummin fast track. To see 2 big ones in the same meeting and PHB's could easily have ended differently says a lot about the track. The racing was pretty good, better than you'd see at most places, the track perp on the other hand was a disgrace for a World Championship event. Edited October 17, 2021 by iainb 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 44 minutes ago, WembleyLion said: Agreed. I think it might help though if the basic rules were clearly published in the programme (I acknowledge there is a flow chart on page 10 that assists) or on the SON website as it might help to stop the guessing and confusion. Talking of the programme the score chart is very poor with no place for recording times or total scores for individual riders. If you need a flow chart to explain the rules, something is very seriously wrong with your sports with your scoring system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 What's the weather doing up there this morning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisdonnelly Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 10 minutes ago, iainb said: What's the weather doing up there this morning? Light rain / drizzle few minutes from the track 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chun Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 12 minutes ago, iainb said: What's the weather doing up there this morning? Drizzle now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Chrisdonnelly said: Light rain / drizzle few minutes from the track 1 minute ago, chun said: Drizzle now Much overnight rain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chun Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 Just now, iainb said: Much overnight rain? A moderate amount. Mostly avoided heavy downpours. Track should be in decent nick by 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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