BartoszZmarzlikFan Posted October 11, 2021 Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 (edited) Dan finished higher in the SEC and GP Challenge too. Track record holder around the NSS. Tai has taken Dan under his wing at Wroclaw too so the team bond would be much better. Woeful decision. Edited October 11, 2021 by KingoftheTrack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endeavour Posted October 11, 2021 Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: What about scoring double figures in GP's and getting to semi finals? He has had a strong finish to the GP season and had an excellent year in the Extraliga as well as having ridden in numerous SoN and SWC meetings. I wouldn't have disagreed if Bewley had got the nod but folk saying it was clear cut and obvious to pick him are wide of the mark. It must have been a very difficult decision and could have gone either way. I didn’t say it was clear cut. If the NSS wasn’t Bewley’s home track it wouldn’t even be up for discussion, Robert would get the nod then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Cheetah Snr Posted October 11, 2021 Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 What would happen if Dan had been picked and then got injured this week? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted October 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 9 minutes ago, Silver Cheetah Snr said: What would happen if Dan had been picked and then got injured this week? A change can be made either before day 1 or 2 in case of injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted October 11, 2021 Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, racers and royals said: A change can be made either before day 1 or 2 in case of injury. So if riders not performing on day 1 they could pull a sickie and bring in the standby for day 2? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted October 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, eric i said: So if riders not performing on day 1 they could pull a sickie and bring in the standby for day 2? They could try but the FIM international Jury will have the last say and might not allow it. Edited October 11, 2021 by racers and royals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Cheetah Snr Posted October 11, 2021 Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 6 minutes ago, racers and royals said: A change can be made either before day 1 or 2 in case of injury. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple.H. Posted October 11, 2021 Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 8 hours ago, PirateShip said: I'm there Sat & Sun, stadium may be a tad empty on Friday! Banger racing friday night the coincil have to maximise profits at the stadium 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted October 11, 2021 Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 Is it too late to change the U21 rider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted October 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 Dan Bewley - different class at Belle Vue- i don`t think so !! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted October 11, 2021 Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 After tonight the wrong U21 has been chosen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted October 11, 2021 Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 7 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: After tonight the wrong U21 has been chosen I've said before it's woeful not one of our top two riders ride in this country 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted October 12, 2021 Report Share Posted October 12, 2021 10 hours ago, ray c said: I've said before it's woeful not one of our top two riders ride in this country I can’t blame them. Go where the money is. A speedway riders career is short enough, but at any time that could be shortened even more (ie Darcy Ward). And to be at the top and stay there, you need to be mixing it with the best. The meeting at BV last night showed that if the track is right the racing can be tops, the elderly riders proved that. British speedway, in the palace it is now, does not need the expensive top Brits. The top Brits can be seen on TV, You Tube etc. if they appeared in the uk are the younger fans going to flood to the stadium. No. British speedway has to move on and accept its at the bottom, and work from their. Everyone seems to moan British speedway is not a £20 per meeting sport, but wants to see top Brits racing, who is going to pay them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted October 12, 2021 Report Share Posted October 12, 2021 18 minutes ago, OveFundinFan said: I can’t blame them. Go where the money is. A speedway riders career is short enough, but at any time that could be shortened even more (ie Darcy Ward). And to be at the top and stay there, you need to be mixing it with the best. The meeting at BV last night showed that if the track is right the racing can be tops, the elderly riders proved that. British speedway, in the palace it is now, does not need the expensive top Brits. The top Brits can be seen on TV, You Tube etc. if they appeared in the uk are the younger fans going to flood to the stadium. No. British speedway has to move on and accept its at the bottom, and work from their. Everyone seems to moan British speedway is not a £20 per meeting sport, but wants to see top Brits racing, who is going to pay them. I agree sad though .sooner have dan instead of robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kedavra Posted October 12, 2021 Report Share Posted October 12, 2021 It's mind blowing that some are angry at the selection of Lambert. He's in the top 10 in both the GPs and the best league in the world. He was top of his team's averages whereas Bewley was just about 4th. He's has had a good season but Lambert has the experience of top level events. We all know the FIM track prep virtually removes home track knowledge so Lambert is a no brainer for me 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobHowe Posted October 12, 2021 Report Share Posted October 12, 2021 I understand why some fans are upset at Lambert’s selection over Bewley, but there is - with the greatest respect - a huge difference between beating the likes of Danny King, Richard Lawson and Sam Masters week in week out when compared to competing with world class riders like Zmarzlik, Janowski, Madsen, etc. As has already been mentioned, Lambert is on form - he’s made the last 3 GP semi finals, his Ekstraliga average is approx 1 point per meeting higher than Bewley and over the last 4 Ekstraliga meetings Lambert scored 20 more points than Bewley. And he has experience at this level. Bewley doesn’t and the pressure of performing at that level could impact negatively on a young rider. As we saw last night, on track prepared for the home team, Bewley was still beaten by MPT, Scott Nicholls and Chris Harris. No disrespect to those riders, but as has been pointed out the track won’t be prepared as Belle Vue riders like it so any home track advantage will be very much reduced. Bewley didn’t win the British Final on his home track, so he’s likely to fair less well against much tougher opponents. Bewley is a great rider and given time will hopefully become one of the best riders in the world. But he isn’t there yet. it was a tough decision but Lambert is the right partner for Tai IMO. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
customhouseregular Posted October 12, 2021 Report Share Posted October 12, 2021 10 minutes ago, RobHowe said: I understand why some fans are upset at Lambert’s selection over Bewley, but there is - with the greatest respect - a huge difference between beating the likes of Danny King, Richard Lawson and Sam Masters week in week out when compared to competing with world class riders like Zmarzlik, Janowski, Madsen, etc. As has already been mentioned, Lambert is on form - he’s made the last 3 GP semi finals, his Ekstraliga average is approx 1 point per meeting higher than Bewley and over the last 4 Ekstraliga meetings Lambert scored 20 more points than Bewley. And he has experience at this level. Bewley doesn’t and the pressure of performing at that level could impact negatively on a young rider. As we saw last night, on track prepared for the home team, Bewley was still beaten by MPT, Scott Nicholls and Chris Harris. No disrespect to those riders, but as has been pointed out the track won’t be prepared as Belle Vue riders like it so any home track advantage will be very much reduced. Bewley didn’t win the British Final on his home track, so he’s likely to fair less well against much tougher opponents. Bewley is a great rider and given time will hopefully become one of the best riders in the world. But he isn’t there yet. it was a tough decision but Lambert is the right partner for Tai IMO. Well reasoned case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted October 12, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2021 JK`s excellent SON final racecards Day 1 Saturday https://www.speedwayservice.at/images/racecards/2021/SoN2021-F1.pdf Day 2 Sunday https://www.speedwayservice.at/images/racecards/2021/SoN2021-F2.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted October 12, 2021 Report Share Posted October 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Kedavra said: It's mind blowing that some are angry at the selection of Lambert. He's in the top 10 in both the GPs and the best league in the world. He was top of his team's averages whereas Bewley was just about 4th. He's has had a good season but Lambert has the experience of top level events. We all know the FIM track prep virtually removes home track knowledge so Lambert is a no brainer for me Thats what forums are all about opinions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted October 12, 2021 Report Share Posted October 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Kedavra said: It's mind blowing that some are angry at the selection of Lambert. He's in the top 10 in both the GPs and the best league in the world. He was top of his team's averages whereas Bewley was just about 4th. He's has had a good season but Lambert has the experience of top level events. We all know the FIM track prep virtually removes home track knowledge so Lambert is a no brainer for me Hopefully Phil Morris won’t interfere, as shown last night when there is decent weather Andy Meredith can prepare a superb track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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