OveFundinFan Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 On 10/17/2021 at 6:24 PM, PolskiZuzel said: Very true...winning because of the opponent's misfortune is not a win...just luck. Neverthelss what counts is an entry the history books. Expand Winning because of opponents misfortune! They all had the same track to race on. Janowski chose the outside line, pity his team mate chose that also but was going slower then Janowski. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond@heart Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 I saw someone with a Robert Lambert 505 flag, I don't suppose anyone knows where I can get one, my daughter wants one. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 On 10/17/2021 at 5:35 PM, customhouseregular said: Great win though can’t disguise the fact we scored 10 points less than Poland. Expand But it would have been totally boring if on Saturday you knew who was going to be champion because they were 10 points in the lead. Who would have guessed the in the final ride of the weekend a Pole was going to pick the same line his team mate in front also ended up on but going slower. End of. They should have sorted out what they were going to do before the race started. First and third would have been good enough but you can’t relax on BV track, they bottled it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted October 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 Michelsen ridden it before ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryW Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 Watching the different angles of the final, which I didn't see on the UK coverage, it was a fairly strange fall for Maciej. It really looked like something you would have expected him to be able to save. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 Great win for Lambert and Bewley! Poland not winning SON yet in four attempts according to Kelv. My heart bleeds for them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 On 10/17/2021 at 4:46 PM, KeirStarmerFan said: Whoever wins this event will be a paper champion. Everyone knows the real champions are Russia. Expand Just spent two days watching some fantastic Speedway and through all that time not one single Russian rider was on show... And a couple of hours ago, they gave the World Championship Trophy to Great Britain... I saw them do it.... And just checked the SON Website and it also confirms what I saw... Great Britain are the World Champions... You need to contact BSI or the FIM quick as obviously someone has got this wrong... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrs Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 I was surprised that BBC Sport site carried a report of the premiership final in the motor sport section, so hopefully the World Champions should get a big mention tomorrow on the Beeb somewhere. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 On 10/17/2021 at 8:40 PM, mikebv said: Just spent two days watching some fantastic Speedway and through all that time not one single Russian rider was on show... And a couple of hours ago, they gave the World Championship Trophy to Great Britain... I saw them do it.... And just checked the SON Website and it also confirms what I saw... Great Britain are the World Champions... You need to contact BSI or the FIM quick as obviously someone has got this wrong... Expand He might be right, latest news on SGB website is still Poole thru to final 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post andout Posted October 17, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 Cannot get over the negative crap on here.......Britain won fair and square, get over yourselves and enjoy a rare British win! 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 On 10/17/2021 at 8:05 PM, NSS1 said: they have all rode it before in previous SON /world cup only helstrom bangs hasn't the polish reserve also Expand Wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 On 10/17/2021 at 8:47 PM, andout said: Cannot get over the negative crap on here.......Britain won fair and square, get over yourselves and enjoy a rare British win! Expand Remember the amount of idiots on here... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garry1603 Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 The format really rewards the team that has a very good / consistent number two rider, which Team GB certainly had in Woffinden and Bewley.. There's no denial that Zmarzlik was head and shoulders above the opposition, but Magic, was a bit too inconsistent. It's all about not being last in a 4-3-2-0 format especially in the latter stages, so it's a well deserved win in my opinion. (albeit a bit lucky in the final when Janowski came to grief). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idanthyrsus Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 On 10/17/2021 at 9:56 PM, Garry1603 said: The format really rewards the team that has a very good / consistent number two rider, which Team GB certainly had in Woffinden and Bewley.. There's no denial that Zmarzlik was head and shoulders above the opposition, but Magic, was a bit too inconsistent. It's all about not being last in a 4-3-2-0 format especially in the latter stages, so it's a well deserved win in my opinion. (albeit a bit lucky in the final when Janowski came to grief). Expand Yeah, I guess its why it's called a Team event and not an individual event. The final was all about Janowski, Zmarzlik had looked almost untouchable all weekend, so GB needed to pack out the minor places, which is what we did. To finish first, first you have to finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garry1603 Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 On 10/17/2021 at 10:03 PM, idanthyrsus said: Yeah, I guess its why it's called a Team event and not an individual event. The final was all about Janowski, Zmarzlik had looked almost untouchable all weekend, so GB needed to pack out the minor places, which is what we did. To finish first, first you have to finish. Expand Yes, and we did it well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzac Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 On 10/17/2021 at 8:47 PM, andout said: Cannot get over the negative crap on here.......Britain won fair and square, get over yourselves and enjoy a rare British win! Expand Correct we just played the set out rules the best. No different to our playoffs really, did enough to get in the semi finals, then it's always game on for all teams left in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garry1603 Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 On 10/17/2021 at 10:03 PM, idanthyrsus said: Yeah, I guess its why it's called a Team event and not an individual event. The final was all about Janowski, Zmarzlik had looked almost untouchable all weekend, so GB needed to pack out the minor places, which is what we did. To finish first, first you have to finish. Expand Yes, you're right. In the past a Best Pairs event )which this effectively was) would be won by a 'Star' rider getting 16/17/18 points with a back up getting around 10 points - that would be enough for victory, but this system of 'avoid getting a last' encourages a more consistent second rider to win - and we did it very well. Well done Team GB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Nick Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 On 10/17/2021 at 10:03 PM, idanthyrsus said: Yeah, I guess its why it's called a Team event and not an individual event. The final was all about Janowski, Zmarzlik had looked almost untouchable all weekend, so GB needed to pack out the minor places, which is what we did. To finish first, first you have to finish. Expand IMO it was Zmarzlik who lost the Poles the final. He drifted wide cutting off Janowkis’ run around the outside. Janowski has rolled off to avoid contact but he was in the dirt by then and as we saw rolling off in the dirt is never a good idea. It’s a pairs event and Zmarzlik should have had been looking for where his partner was rather than racing his own race. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 On 10/17/2021 at 5:20 PM, Steve Shovlar said: Where’s Woffinden? Expand Getting treatment on his injuries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technik Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 On 10/17/2021 at 11:36 PM, Pirate Nick said: IMO it was Zmarzlik who lost the Poles the final. He drifted wide cutting off Janowkis’ run around the outside. Janowski has rolled off to avoid contact but he was in the dirt by then and as we saw rolling off in the dirt is never a good idea. It’s a pairs event and Zmarzlik should have had been looking for where his partner was rather than racing his own race. Expand There is a time when your surrounded by aligators you can forget that your job was to drain the swamp. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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