chunky Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, nw42 said: Yeah but that's because you watched it twice. How do you get half a pass??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw42 Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 1 minute ago, chunky said: How do you get half a pass??? You just take it out of the top drawer Nige. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 Regarding the track, how many times have we heard various commentators and pundits say “the track will come good” or “the track will come to the riders”? The racing then becomes decent about heat 10-12 which is far too late. Today they had the equivalent of 14 heats before the meeting due to practice and then a short track prep. You can’t have it both ways, it’s either a virgin track or a “came to the riders” track. Just my opinion but as someone who no longer attends in person I thought it was a decent meeting on a reasonable track. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkshiretyke Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 I'm pretty sure this forum is set up to allow the little muppets to have a field day. Same old bollox on this thread as the Premiership final thread of which 80% of it is filled up with sh*te from the same to$$ers. Sat behind their desk all day, one hand on keyboard, other in their pants baiting others. Cant even read through these threads these days without the little maggots spouting irrelevant sh*t. MODS sort your sh*t out and do most of us a favour!!! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark.1 Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 58 minutes ago, bigcatdiary said: Any exclusion or retirement in the final and they lose it doesn’t matter how many points they are in front. I really don’t see why 21 heats cannot decide it, they always seem to over complicate things like the new GP scoring system. If the poles have a better head to head with the other team in the final then a race win only will win it for them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 I thought it was a good event, definitely better than most GPs. Whilst it wasn't as good as the Premiership final I really like having teams and the variety of rider. Hellstrom whatsit mixing it well and it shows that there are many riders out there who can compete with the best. Shame about the crashes and was surprised there weren't more given the desperation to get that bit extra. Lambert was very good for us though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 Very good meeting only wish I was there, get well soon Tai, good luck to Dan tomorrow , team GB can still do this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 Absolutely nothing wrong with that track. It was a more then decent meeting with plenty of passing. It was slicker than usual given there was such an extensive practice. That only created more racing lines though, there was outside, inside and mid track. Impossible to defend and even harder to team ride. When a 3 time world champion said pretty much exactly that, I’d be inclined to trust his judgment. There were at least 5 races that were outstanding, some incredible speedway. I’ve seen way worse meetings than that this season around the NSS when the track has been pretty much perfect, and I know because I have a season ticket. In fact I’d go so far as saying that was the 2nd best meeting of the season after the PO final. That must have been at least 60 passes. As ever this forum is being destroyed by f%%%%%%g idiots and the MOD team, if one even exists, need to sort there s%%t out because it puts decent people off posting. Poles are a class apart and Tai isn’t the rider this season that he has been, Lambert was better overall. Id be using Bewley and Lambert tomorrow, I think we stand a better chance doing that. First time in years I’ve felt confident leaving Tai out of a GB line up, but we the reality is we currently have 2 riders who are better imo and in DB one who knows the track inside and out and has some serious speed around it. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 I've seen virtually every meeting from NSS since the start, very rarely have I seen it where the line is so close to the fence, it was very much like czestaowa (or however you spell it) Also, very rarely see any crashes if at all so to have 3 in 1 week is strange and both tonight was just due to riders not giving an inch. That's world championship speedway. Hope tai Jacob and pontus are OK. The 1 hour practice at 2pm was stupid. It was like having a full meeting before the meeting. That's why the dirt was so wide (NOT THE TRACK PREP) Andrew meredith did the track. NOT MORRIS 40 minutes from finish of practice to start time wasn't enough to bring the dirt back from the fence, as much as he tried, whats happened to the old school rakers, that's would have helped. Rain is set for 2am right through till 12pm, track will be very grippy with next to no passes. So if you thing today was boring (which it wasnt) then I'd plan to do something else at 4pm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 1 hour ago, mark.1 said: If the poles have a better head to head with the other team in the final then a race win only will win it for them What??? It doesn't matter what the head to head is, a race win in the final will win it. That's why it's the final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BartoszZmarzlikFan Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 20 minutes ago, acef said: Absolutely nothing wrong with that track. It was a more then decent meeting with plenty of passing. It was slicker than usual given there was such an extensive practice. That only created more racing lines though, there was outside, inside and mid track. Impossible to defend and even harder to team ride. When a 3 time world champion said pretty much exactly that, I’d be inclined to trust his judgment. There were at least 5 races that were outstanding, some incredible speedway. I’ve seen way worse meetings than that this season around the NSS when the track has been pretty much perfect, and I know because I have a season ticket. In fact I’d go so far as saying that was the 2nd best meeting of the season after the PO final. That must have been at least 60 passes. As ever this forum is being destroyed by f%%%%%%g idiots and the MOD team, if one even exists, need to sort there s%%t out because it puts decent people off posting. Poles are a class apart and Tai isn’t the rider this season that he has been, Lambert was better overall. Id be using Bewley and Lambert tomorrow, I think we stand a better chance doing that. First time in years I’ve felt confident leaving Tai out of a GB line up, but we the reality is we currently have 2 riders who are better imo and in DB one who knows the track inside and out and has some serious speed around it. Lambert isn't better than Woffinden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BartoszZmarzlikFan Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 Dan Bewley is going to make a statement tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark.1 Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 15 minutes ago, norbold said: What??? It doesn't matter what the head to head is, a race win in the final will win it. That's why it's the final. Just to be clear if zmarzlik wins the final and janowski comes last then poland will win it if they have a better head to head against the other team in the final 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinker Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 3 hours ago, keepturningleft said: Someone once said that Forum sites were where the miseries the world meet up. He was right. I was in the south stand and thought the whole spectacle was brilliant apart from the crashes. Zmarlik alone justifies the entrance fee. What a rider. Just what do people expect? Here's a challenge to everyone who thought that meeting was poor. Go on Youtube and find a meeting from the 70's, 80's, or 90's where there is multiple passing in every race and then post it on this forum. You will search in vain. This and and premiership plays off's have been represented the best of modern speedway as a spectacle. I've been watching speedway since the 60's and I'm not sure I've seen anything much better than these last three tv meetings. Here here, couldn't agree more! Some folk just moan for the sake of it! Last three meetings on TV very enjoyable and far better than any GP this year. Hope all the riders involved in incidents on the third bend are OK. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 19 minutes ago, Phil The Ace said: I've seen virtually every meeting from NSS since the start, very rarely have I seen it where the line is so close to the fence, it was very much like czestaowa (or however you spell it) Also, very rarely see any crashes if at all so to have 3 in 1 week is strange and both tonight was just due to riders not giving an inch. That's world championship speedway. Hope tai Jacob and pontus are OK. The 1 hour practice at 2pm was stupid. It was like having a full meeting before the meeting. That's why the dirt was so wide (NOT THE TRACK PREP) Andrew meredith did the track. NOT MORRIS 40 minutes from finish of practice to start time wasn't enough to bring the dirt back from the fence, as much as he tried, whats happened to the old school rakers, that's would have helped. Rain is set for 2am right through till 12pm, track will be very grippy with next to no passes. So if you thing today was boring (which it wasnt) then I'd plan to do something else at 4pm. People have got lost in the slickness of the track which made it different to how it usually is, then somehow related that difference to it being a boring meeting. It wasn’t. It was a very, very good meeting and way better than anything I’ve seen in a GP or from Poland. Don’t agree with the rain and grippy bit, as long as the dirt was pulled back down post meeting that track needs and will take some rain. IMO it will help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott0311 Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, mark.1 said: Just to be clear if zmarzlik wins the final and janowski comes last then poland will win it if they have a better head to head against the other team in the final Wrong I am afraid. From the SON regulations, notice the emphasis on Team and not rider - The winning team of the Grand Final heat will become 2021 SoN champions. The losing team of the Grand Final heat will become 2021 SoN Runner up. The losing team of the Grand Final Qualifier heat will become 2021 SoN Third Place. The only time head to head comes into the equation is prior to Heats 43 and 44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruiser Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 Just watched most of the meeting back on TV after being there….I came out of the stadium thinking I’d just watched a really good meeting and now i have watched it back on TV I still think I have watched a really good meeting. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Bruiser said: Just watched most of the meeting back on TV after being there….I came out of the stadium thinking I’d just watched a really good meeting and now i have watched it back on TV I still think I have watched a really good meeting. Like most of us on here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 Second and third place wins the final surely. Isn't that the whole point of the scoring system? Where are people getting the idea from that a heat win will win the final? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryW Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 3 hours ago, Noodles said: I've just watched it - 6 passes. What were the other heats where there were 10-12 passes and I'll check those out too? I've just watched it as well, and I am wondering what you consider a pass. 6 passes in that race? Really? As an aside, I am suprised by the number of posts writing Smarzlik...The boy is a double World Champ and absolutely on top of his game. Is it so hard to get his name right when it's shown on the TV so many times? Or am I missing some joke? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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