Lefty Posted January 18, 2021 Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 1 minute ago, racers and royals said: Herne Bay, is that in cloud cuckoo land !!! Herne Bay was renamed Horse Bay by Kent Council road sign glitch last week. So it could be in cloud cuckoo land... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted January 18, 2021 Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 59 minutes ago, old bob at herne bay said: I am a firm believer in "what goes around comes around. " It is Poland's time to rule the roost in the Speedway World at the moment. Let us hope when the "bubble bursts" , when the Polish supporters find other things to do with their leisure time, and their TV companies find another sport to put on their channels that the GB promoters are just as robust in imposing punitive conditions on the contracts of riders who decide that they suddenly want to return to ride in the UK. As a now independent Sovereign nation we ought to be developing our own riding talent ...... and imposing contract conditions to restrict their ability to suddenly sign up for EU nations and quit the tracks where they learnt how to race. No longer are we saddled with EU employment rules. Indeed British speedway behaved in much the same way in the 70s/80s and look what's happened now - as you say karma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted January 18, 2021 Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 2 hours ago, old bob at herne bay said: I am a firm believer in "what goes around comes around. " It is Poland's time to rule the roost in the Speedway World at the moment. Let us hope when the "bubble bursts" , when the Polish supporters find other things to do with their leisure time, and their TV companies find another sport to put on their channels that the GB promoters are just as robust in imposing punitive conditions on the contracts of riders who decide that they suddenly want to return to ride in the UK. As a now independent Sovereign nation we ought to be developing our own riding talent ...... and imposing contract conditions to restrict their ability to suddenly sign up for EU nations and quit the tracks where they learnt how to race. No longer are we saddled with EU employment rules. I actually think Poland have learned from what the UK failed to do when it was the No1 Speedway league on the planet, and built their plan around not having the same outcome the UK ended up with... Unlike the UK, they haven't allowed a free for all whereby foreign riders come in and take spaces over Polish lads, and by ensuring that young riders in particular get guaranteed slots they have invested in what they hope is future success.... The reason being is that they know how much of Polish Speedways domestic growth has been built on a successful national team which has ignited the interest of the public and, most importantly, meant mainstream media and major sponsors getting involved in the leagues over there.. Their determination to keep Poland as No1 is clear and, quite rightly, will do whatever is needed to keep themselves there.. The UK had its chance, following a system that worked, then opened the floodgates to everyone, and basically spent years training up overseas riders to knock the 'England' team off their perch and they swiftly become also rans on the world stage.. And as that happened, quite naturally, the media coverage and major sponsors dwindled away accordingly... Can't see those in charge in Poland allowing the same thing to happen to them.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyderd Posted February 3, 2021 Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 Does anyone know what the average attendance is at Polands top league,year on year for the last 10 years or so, would be interesting to see if the figures are up,down or relatively static Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted February 3, 2021 Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 43 minutes ago, hyderd said: Does anyone know what the average attendance is at Polands top league,year on year for the last 10 years or so, would be interesting to see if the figures are up,down or relatively static Suggest you pose that question in the international section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyderd Posted February 3, 2021 Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Suggest you pose that question in the international section. Done, thanks for the advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badge Posted October 7, 2021 Report Share Posted October 7, 2021 I often wondered why riders preferred Poland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted October 7, 2021 Report Share Posted October 7, 2021 3 hours ago, Badge said: I often wondered why riders preferred Poland They should run it with Guests every week.. Bartek and the rest of the lads could earn so much more... Fans, TV companies and Sponsors would still pay in their respective millions... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old bob at herne bay Posted October 7, 2021 Report Share Posted October 7, 2021 (edited) Surely all the top riders have already fled the UK and are riding in Poland in 2021? Realistically, did anyone honestly expect to ever see Woffinden Lambert etc etc ride in UK speedway again ? As soon as Bewdly gets an offer he will be offski. Brennon won't be far behind. And Chris von Strasse at Wolves still wants more team in the PLin 2022. he he he funny chap. Where's your riders coming from Chris ? - and please don't say the NDL..... last time I looked there were just 6 teams left standing there. Edited October 7, 2021 by old bob at herne bay 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARK246 Posted October 7, 2021 Report Share Posted October 7, 2021 6 minutes ago, old bob at herne bay said: And Chris von Strasse at Wolves still wants more team in the PLin 2022. he he he funny chap. Where's your riders coming from Chris ? - and please don't say the NDL..... last time I looked there were just 6 teams left standing there. I would be more worried about Birmingham, if they close, hopefully they won't, which of the premier clubs will jump first to take their spot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r8gdp Posted October 7, 2021 Report Share Posted October 7, 2021 At £1500.00 a point no wonder Bartosz is dive bombing everyone going into the 3 rd bend lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted October 7, 2021 Report Share Posted October 7, 2021 So Poland's best footballer earns Zmarzlik's annual wage in 2 weeks. So much for speedway being Poland's 'national sport'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neila Posted October 7, 2021 Report Share Posted October 7, 2021 And these are reduced rates due to covid affected season, wait till next year it will be £s more. Personal sponsorship on top of these figures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted October 7, 2021 Report Share Posted October 7, 2021 3 hours ago, KeirStarmerFan said: So Poland's best footballer earns Zmarzlik's annual wage in 2 weeks. So much for speedway being Poland's 'national sport'. It’s not, that’s always been a myth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSS1 Posted October 7, 2021 Report Share Posted October 7, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, KeirStarmerFan said: So Poland's best footballer earns Zmarzlik's annual wage in 2 weeks. So much for speedway being Poland's 'national sport'. He's paid buy his German club Bayern Munich numpty Edited October 7, 2021 by NSS1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BartoszZmarzlikFan Posted October 7, 2021 Report Share Posted October 7, 2021 5 hours ago, r8gdp said: At £1500.00 a point no wonder Bartosz is dive bombing everyone going into the 3 rd bend lol True Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted October 7, 2021 Report Share Posted October 7, 2021 6 hours ago, old bob at herne bay said: Surely all the top riders have already fled the UK and are riding in Poland in 2021? Realistically, did anyone honestly expect to ever see Woffinden Lambert etc etc ride in UK speedway again ? As soon as Bewdly gets an offer he will be offski. Brennon won't be far behind. And Chris von Strasse at Wolves still wants more team in the PLin 2022. he he he funny chap. Where's your riders coming from Chris ? - and please don't say the NDL..... last time I looked there were just 6 teams left standing there. Yep. It all starts at the bottom, and cash rules the roost. I don’t care what anyone says, money rules and only becomes an issue when you’ve got too much of it. Then greed takes over. It’s the devil and the deep blue sea for speedway in this country. There is no win, not without some major backing and the disbandment of the association first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted October 7, 2021 Report Share Posted October 7, 2021 5 hours ago, KeirStarmerFan said: So Poland's best footballer earns Zmarzlik's annual wage in 2 weeks. So much for speedway being Poland's 'national sport'. I’ve just called someone out for engaging you in another thread so I’ll apologise for contradicting myself because that’s rude of me, but this post really amused me. Its all relative, speedway isn’t Polands National sport it’s a sport like it is here but just pays way more than we do. It’s not a rational comparison for you to make. Football drives huge revenue across the world, speedway does not do that, but when it gets close to being relative it will become successful, and Poland is the prime example of that just on a way smaller scale. We could do what Poland do here, if your going to relate it to wages, but without people sitting in the seats to pay it then it ain’t happening. Different social climate in the UK vs Polska. You don’t half chat some rubbish 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted October 8, 2021 Report Share Posted October 8, 2021 31 minutes ago, acef said: You don’t half chat some rubbish Ya think??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy cookie returns? Posted October 8, 2021 Report Share Posted October 8, 2021 On 1/18/2021 at 6:20 PM, old bob at herne bay said: I am a firm believer in "what goes around comes around. " It is Poland's time to rule the roost in the Speedway World at the moment. Let us hope when the "bubble bursts" , when the Polish supporters find other things to do with their leisure time, and their TV companies find another sport to put on their channels that the GB promoters are just as robust in imposing punitive conditions on the contracts of riders who decide that they suddenly want to return to ride in the UK. As a now independent Sovereign nation we ought to be developing our own riding talent ...... and imposing contract conditions to restrict their ability to suddenly sign up for EU nations and quit the tracks where they learnt how to race. No longer are we saddled with EU employment rules. I don't think the Polish bubble will burst speedway in Poland has been successfully ran with huge crowds for decades, the sport has great foundations over there. That's what makes it so attractive to the big companies & TV companies. Success breed's success and the Polish governing body sure know how to run a professional sport. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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