E I Addio Posted October 26, 2020 Report Share Posted October 26, 2020 2 hours ago, Hacksaw Jim Duggan said: Depends on what was used, cocaine would give a completely false sense of confidence and ramp up every emotion in a rider resulting in rash, illogical decisions, turning on riders down straights etc.... Yes but illogical decisions and turning on riders on the straights are not going to win world championships. I can understand that certain irresponsible looneys take the stuff in any walk of life but does it actually enhance a riders ability on the track ? I would have thought not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted October 26, 2020 Report Share Posted October 26, 2020 I wonder if Jason had contact with Jerran Hart yet inside . 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted October 26, 2020 Report Share Posted October 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, E I Addio said: Yes but illogical decisions and turning on riders on the straights are not going to win world championships. I can understand that certain irresponsible looneys take the stuff in any walk of life but does it actually enhance a riders ability on the track ? I would have thought not. Shawn and Kelly done ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 26, 2020 Report Share Posted October 26, 2020 5 hours ago, Gunner85 said: I think enough has been said now and we should not utter or mention his name again.... purely as a respect to the pensioners that he terrorised Again, I'm not an apologist for Garrity but just a point of fact... the victim's ages have not been disclosed, one of the victims is described as "an elderly woman" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted October 26, 2020 Report Share Posted October 26, 2020 3 hours ago, Humphrey Appleby said: Of course it is. Even high profile athletes got away with it for years. In his book Mike Tyson mentions a wizzer. A fake penis filled with “clean” urine for athletes to use when providing samples. Where there’s a will to cheat there’s a way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted October 26, 2020 Report Share Posted October 26, 2020 59 minutes ago, orion said: Shawn and Kelly done ok Yes. I should have thought about them , especially as I’ve read Kelly’s biography. I suppose that sort of answers my question. Who was the rider Kelly Shared a flat with, who was on the way down when Kelly was on the way up ? I think it was Chris Pusey. It seems he was off his head with booze all the time, and was supposed to have been a bad influence on Kelly. As if... Both Morans seem to have wasted both their talent and their lives with the stuff though. It seems Michael Lee was not exactly a stranger to it either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple.H. Posted October 26, 2020 Report Share Posted October 26, 2020 3 hours ago, E I Addio said: Yes but illogical decisions and turning on riders on the straights are not going to win world championships. I can understand that certain irresponsible looneys take the stuff in any walk of life but does it actually enhance a riders ability on the track ? I would have thought not. You've answered your own question. If you took a drug that made you more relaxed you would be more likely to go for the ever decreasing gap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hacksaw Jim Duggan Posted October 26, 2020 Report Share Posted October 26, 2020 3 hours ago, E I Addio said: Yes but illogical decisions and turning on riders on the straights are not going to win world championships. I can understand that certain irresponsible looneys take the stuff in any walk of life but does it actually enhance a riders ability on the track ? I would have thought not. “The point is Speedway is a funny sport and a lot of it is mind games” you previously said that, some substances help create a higher sense of confidence. One of if not the greatest ever football players was a known user of cocaine. In instances it will lead to an accelerated level of performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted October 26, 2020 Report Share Posted October 26, 2020 58 minutes ago, Triple.H. said: You've answered your own question. If you took a drug that made you more relaxed you would be more likely to go for the ever decreasing gap. or a gap that was not even there ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted October 26, 2020 Report Share Posted October 26, 2020 On 10/24/2020 at 10:30 AM, NeilWatson said: Jesper B Jensen, 11th July 2007 JBJ didn’t ride for Panthers in 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted October 26, 2020 Report Share Posted October 26, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, bigcatdiary said: JBJ didn’t ride for Panthers in 2007 no but he rode for Oxford Edited October 26, 2020 by stevehone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted October 26, 2020 Report Share Posted October 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, stevehone said: no but he rode for Oxford 11th July 2007 was Poole v Peterborough, JBJ wasn’t in either team . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted October 26, 2020 Report Share Posted October 26, 2020 2 hours ago, Hacksaw Jim Duggan said: “The point is Speedway is a funny sport and a lot of it is mind games” you previously said that, some substances help create a higher sense of confidence. One of if not the greatest ever football players was a known user of cocaine. In instances it will lead to an accelerated level of performance. Same with darts. It doesn't make you more "accurate", but once you get that supreme confidence, and removes EVERY doubt in your head, it does - as you say - lead to an accelerated level of performance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 Lets not forget that many many rider's are using Snus / Snuff & blatantly making requests for purchases on social media. Some will say it's only nicotine but it's used to heighten senses & believe it improves performance. An illegal substance in Europe but never ever gets talked about. This is still cheating & as bad as any rider that does class A/B substances imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catalan Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 9 hours ago, bigcatdiary said: JBJ didn’t ride for Panthers in 2007 Sure it was Jespers carb. Can't remember opposition but remember machine examiner being asked to do random checks. Found the carb to be outside of tolerances. Even referee checked it and agreed. But when Jim McMillan checked it was deemed to be ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 9 hours ago, bigcatdiary said: JBJ didn’t ride for Panthers in 2007 This is my source, but I don’t have more details to hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 Sure it was JBJ around 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Pinny said: Sure it was JBJ around 2005 You are correct It seems the original link I found was incorrect or incomplete. I remember that I was at the meeting as Peterborough Promoter, but it seems that's all I remember without help :-) https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/speedway-jesper-gets-the-all-clear-554227 It was a TV meeting 15th August 2005 Poole 44 1. Bjarne Pedersen 2, 2, 1', 2, 2' = 9+2 2. Matej Ferjan 0, 1', 1, 2 = 4+1 3. Ryan Sullivan 0, 3, 0, 1 = 4 4. Antonio Lindback 3, 2', 2, 3, 3 = 13+1 5. Leigh Adams (G) 2, 2, 3, 0 = 7 6. Tomas Suchanek 2, 0, 0 = 2 7. Edward Kennett R, 1', 3, 0, 1 = 5+1Peterborough 46 1. Peter Karlsson 3, 1, 2, 3 = 9 2. Henning Bager 1, 0, T, 1' = 2+1 3. Jesper B Jensen 1', 1, 3, 2', 0 = 7+2 4. Sam Ermolenko 2, 3, F, 0, 1 = 6 5. Ales Dryml 0, 3, 3, 1 = 7 6. Daniel Davidsson 1, 0, 0 = 1 7. Lukas Dryml 3, 3, 2, 1, 3, 2 = 14 (courtesy Speedway Updates) Edited October 27, 2020 by NeilWatson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 (edited) 23 hours ago, Gunner85 said: I think enough has been said now and we should not utter or mention his name again.... purely as a respect to the pensioners that he terrorised The one saving grace for the sport is that speedway didn’t get a mention in the reports as it being Garrity’s profession. Thought it would have been the headline, to be honest... and shows the irrelevance of speedway in today’s media world. Edited October 27, 2020 by moxey63 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 (edited) 21 hours ago, chunky said: Same with darts. It doesn't make you more "accurate", but once you get that supreme confidence, and removes EVERY doubt in your head, it does - as you say - lead to an accelerated level of performance. I was a very decent dart player in my twenties. I was not a drinker, but for my dart matches I used to have about a pint and a half before and during my matches and became a very good player. Difficulty was if my opponent was late or my team match didn't start on time, I ran our of confidence and not at my best. Edited October 27, 2020 by Tsunami Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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