Jason Garrity

[moxey63]

1 minute ago, geoff100 said:

In ian thomas book he tells the storey of a comets rider getting worried about taking a test after being promised a night to remember by a local lass and he

took some "pills" to help him on his way 

Nowt wrong with that. As long as the pills didn't help him score a 12-point maximum!

[cinderfella]

3 hours ago, moxey63 said:

Nowt wrong with that. As long as the pills didn't help him score a 12-point maximum!

You mean he didn't come first every time?

 

[Fromafar]

3 hours ago, moxey63 said:

If his behaviour was so obvious, surely authorities should have made greater strides to test him. Especially, as some have said, he apparently broke down on the way to meetings when forewarned would have random drug tests.

How deep is the drug problem in speedway, when this is allowed to happen and riders pull out of meetings (pretending to pull their back, unloading their bikes) when they arrive and know tests will take place? 

Don’t think people on here are exaggerating regarding his behaviour and missing meetings.He done some pretty strange things IMO.Cant remember the rider but I was at a meeting where he “injured his back “ unloading his bike in similar circumstances.

Edited October 24, 2020 by Fromafar

[jenga]

i remember brent werner putting his back out getting his bikes out of his van !  

[HGould]

11 hours ago, iainb said:

From reading the Police statement it doesn't say he brutally attacked anybody, he burgled one person and robbed another at knife point. He's used threatening behaviour yes but he hasn't actually physically attacked anybody in this case (from what I've read). I am in no way defending or condoning his actions, I totally condemn them, just pointing out the known facts.

My generation would view holding a knife to a pensioners as brutal and nasty .

It's the act of a dangerous criminal and a coward.

[IainB]

8 minutes ago, HGould said:

My generation would view holding a knife to a pensioners as brutal and nasty .

It's the act of a dangerous criminal and a coward.

That's fair enough... We can definitely agree on the latter though

[OML]

I've been near him in the pits twice when he's been tested. Both times he said why's it always me that gets "randomly" chosen, which suggests he's been tested on other occasions. Both times he was clear. 

Not trying to defend his actions in any way, deserves all he gets and more. 

Edited October 24, 2020 by OML

[tonyd]

On 10/24/2020 at 1:05 AM, HenryW said:

What is the reliability of these testing kits?

If they are 100% accurate then it's a great idea and all is good, but I suspect that wouldn't actually be the case...

What level of false positives would be acceptable at a meeting where a rider or multiple riders get prevented from racing due to the failure of the testing kits rather than anything they had done wrong?

I used to work on large motorway projects where drug and alcohol tests were the norm as there was a total zero tolerance to both on site. Every day a minimum of 10 people were tested, a simple test of pee in a special container, snap the lid down shake and place on desk. then you watched the container together with the tester to see if the crystals change colour. A simple effective test that caught many out. The only time it was known to give a false reading was if you were taken certain prescribed drugs and the testers always asked pre test if you were taking anything. (and don't speedway riders have to declare prior to a meeting any strong prescribed drugs they are taking?)

 

[Humphrey Appleby]

On 10/24/2020 at 4:26 PM, HGould said:

Don't in any way condone the use of drugs, recreational or more serious.

I couldn't care less if people take soft drugs recreationally. Plenty do, and I suspect if you conducted a random test of the whole UK population, you'd find a high percentage who do indulge in it and function perfectly well in their jobs. So not sure why people expect speedway riders to be any different.

Of course, it's different to be under the influence if you're actually riding - the same as alcohol - although the likes of cannabis hangs around in the body long after it's had any deleterious effect. 

It sounds like Garrity doing harder stuff though, which is a different matter.

Edited October 25, 2020 by Humphrey Appleby

[Technik]

As recorded above he has had to undergo a "Random" drug test more often than most. 

Now whilst I will never defend an offence that is proven I don't believe he was using any form of drug whilst he was racing. I will agree that he is hyper & over active giving the impression that he might be a user but his tests have been clear & he was never the only one tested but he was the one most often chosen at "Random". Given the results I will happily say he is not a drug user & lets be fair he is not on trial for drug related offences.

[False dawn]

4 minutes ago, Technik said:

As recorded above he has had to undergo a "Random" drug test more often than most. 

Now whilst I will never defend an offence that is proven I don't believe he was using any form of drug whilst he was racing. I will agree that he is hyper & over active giving the impression that he might be a user but his tests have been clear & he was never the only one tested but he was the one most often chosen at "Random". Given the results I will happily say he is not a drug user & lets be fair he is not on trial for drug related offences.

Thank you for further factual background. Reading between the lines, is it possible to be a drug user but it not be detected by tests with enough foresight and planning? And even if it is, the rider involved does not strike me as someone who could institute such a highly disciplined regime.

I guess people have "assumed" hyper behaviour indicated drug use which in turn lead him to try and obtain money in an easily discovered way on his doorstep. Coupled with the vunerable nature of the victims has resulted in the less than sympathic response on here. You certainly don't get sentenced to 7½ years in prison for a minor offence.

If funding a drug use wasn't the motivation, what the hell was the perpetrator thinking?

[jenga]

can you still get soap on a rope ?

[Gunner85]

I think enough has been said now and we should  not utter or mention his name again.... purely as a respect to the pensioners that he terrorised

 

Edited October 26, 2020 by Gunner85

[Debbi]

I seem to remember when Ward got banned for alcohol in his system at the Latvian GP, there were a couple of riders who said then what they should be testing for more often is drugs. As certain drugs make you lose you inhibitions leading to crazy and dangerous riding that will/has caused serious injuries (sound familiar?).

How do they even find out when random tests are taking place I thought that was the whole idea of being random, maybe we need to go the same way as athletics and other professional sports, miss x tests you get an automatic ban. 

[Fromafar]

3 hours ago, Technik said:

As recorded above he has had to undergo a "Random" drug test more often than most. 

Now whilst I will never defend an offence that is proven I don't believe he was using any form of drug whilst he was racing. I will agree that he is hyper & over active giving the impression that he might be a user but his tests have been clear & he was never the only one tested but he was the one most often chosen at "Random". Given the results I will happily say he is not a drug user & lets be fair he is not on trial for drug related offences.

He was on trial for worse offences and found guilty!!! 
Just because he wasn’t caught at Speedway means nothing.Never turned up  when when on them IMO.Total Waster.

[Humphrey Appleby]

3 hours ago, False dawn said:

Reading between the lines, is it possible to be a drug user but it not be detected by tests with enough foresight and planning?

Of course it is. Even high profile athletes got away with it for years. 

[Hacksaw Jim Duggan]

His career highlight was a race on the TV when he beat Doyle, the reality is Doyle barely bothered his arse because he wanted to race tomorrow and could see Garrity racing like a complete rocket in front on him.

An absolute arse of a boy on a speedway bike. 

[E I Addio]

On a slightly different point , is there any evidence that drugs actually enhance a riders performance on a bike ?

I get it with athletes that use the stuff to build muscles during training, but what would it  actually do for a rider in a race?
 

The point is Speedway is a funny sport and a lot of it is mind games. If one rider does something or makes some modification to his bike others will copy even though it makes no difference, they just convince themselves it does.

[E I Addio]

9 minutes ago, Hacksaw Jim Duggan said:

His career highlight was a race on the TV when he beat Doyle, the reality is Doyle barely bothered his arse because he wanted to race tomorrow and could see Garrity racing like a complete rocket in front on him.

An absolute arse of a boy on a speedway bike. 

Or, as Andreas Jonsson laconically put it “ He’s a bit wild “. 
Quite 

[Hacksaw Jim Duggan]

4 minutes ago, E I Addio said:

On a slightly different point , is there any evidence that drugs actually enhance a riders performance on a bike ?

I get it with athletes that use the stuff to build muscles during training, but what would it  actually do for a rider in a race?

Depends on what was used, cocaine would give a completely false sense of confidence and ramp up every emotion in a rider resulting in rash, illogical decisions, turning on riders down straights etc....

Edited October 26, 2020 by Hacksaw Jim Duggan