Ben91 Posted October 22, 2020 Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 Scumbag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancient mariner Posted October 22, 2020 Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 Saw him riding at Buxton against the Devils some years ago. Rode like he'd got a screw loose that day and bordering on dangerous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enotian Posted October 22, 2020 Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 7 years 6 months! He'll serve half and be out in time for the start of the next UK speedway season.... Apologies, it's not a joking matter. Anyone who prey's on the vulnerable has no place in society regardless of how tough their start in life might have been or the addictions which might have consumed them. I suspect his victims will suffer the after effects of his actions for much longer than he will atone for them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 22, 2020 Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 3 hours ago, ancient mariner said: Saw him riding at Buxton against the Devils some years ago. Rode like he'd got a screw loose that day and bordering on dangerous Total liability on track most of the time .IMO .Think we can guess why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neila Posted October 22, 2020 Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 13 hours ago, *JJ said: It really staggers me that someone should commit this sort of really despicable crime; he must have been totally out of his skull. Was he really on drugs? He has now totally trashed his own life. And he was showing some promise as a speedway rider; he could have gone a long way if he had really wanted. What a total sad waste. Was he really on drugs ?? Saw several times some very strange behaviour in the pits, once a team manager told him to get out of sight part way through a meeting due to his behaviour !! Then another time after falling off was screaming in pain, until he went in the medical room came out smoking something and seamed right as rain !! I'm saying nowt about the jail term but must deserve it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted October 22, 2020 Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 Forget this news story briefly, a side question. What's happened to the supposedly "random drug tests" in British Speedway & how on earth had he avoided one all this time?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neila Posted October 22, 2020 Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 He did not turn up to meetings that "random drug testing" was taking place !! For some reason 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted October 23, 2020 Report Share Posted October 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Neila said: Was he really on drugs ?? Saw several times some very strange behaviour in the pits, once a team manager told him to get out of sight part way through a meeting due to his behaviour !! Then another time after falling off was screaming in pain, until he went in the medical room came out smoking something and seamed right as rain !! I'm saying nowt about the jail term but must deserve it Neila , do you remember him dancing around the pits gate @ workington one year and doing so crazy moves that would shame a monkey on a Bermuda trip ? one of my mates pointed this out to me ,(yes i have mates ) and they do not come in packets . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neila Posted October 23, 2020 Report Share Posted October 23, 2020 11 hours ago, jenga said: Neila , do you remember him dancing around the pits gate @ workington one year and doing so crazy moves that would shame a monkey on a Bermuda trip ? one of my mates pointed this out to me ,(yes i have mates ) and they do not come in packets . Jenga can remember him doing all-sorts of strange behaviours both at Derwent park and other places, think at last everything has caught up with him and got what he deserves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted October 23, 2020 Report Share Posted October 23, 2020 Although I don't condone his crimes, I find myself fascinated by Garrity's character. His life, I bet, has some tale to tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted October 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2020 44 minutes ago, moxey63 said: Although I don't condone his crimes, I find myself fascinated by Garrity's character. His life, I bet, has some tale to tell. not fascinating at all, without speedway he would have done worse for longer. Drug addiction usually ends one way only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamondboy Posted October 23, 2020 Report Share Posted October 23, 2020 48 minutes ago, moxey63 said: Although I don't condone his crimes, I find myself fascinated by Garrity's character. His life, I bet, has some tale to tell. I’m sure his victims have a tale to tell, especially the pensioners. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted October 23, 2020 Report Share Posted October 23, 2020 (edited) I'm sure I stated I didn't condone what he'd done. I was also sure someone would take offence that I felt Garrity would have a fascinating story behind him. For starters, I always wondered where someone like Garrity had come across his thousands to purchase his speedway gear at a young age. It would also be worth seeing, how many that are criticising Garrity actually bought a book about Kenny Carter, who did far worse. Edited October 23, 2020 by moxey63 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted October 23, 2020 Report Share Posted October 23, 2020 20 hours ago, Neila said: He did not turn up to meetings that "random drug testing" was taking place !! For some reason You can't help but wonder if the tests could be made slightly less random. Surely if a rider is a persistent drug user, such knowledge will become well known in a tight knit community. It wouldn't be difficult to "arrange" a test. In fact, evidence of drug taking should be treated in just the same way as a rider smelling of alcohol. There must be provision in the rules for the Clerk of the Course to prevent a rider from riding. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted October 23, 2020 Report Share Posted October 23, 2020 9 minutes ago, False dawn said: You can't help but wonder if the tests could be made slightly less random. Surely if a rider is a persistent drug user, such knowledge will become well known in a tight knit community. It wouldn't be difficult to "arrange" a test. In fact, evidence of drug taking should be treated in just the same way as a rider smelling of alcohol. There must be provision in the rules for the Clerk of the Course to prevent a rider from riding. Multi-drug saliva test kits are available for around £4 each, purchased in bulk much less no doubt; so 14 tests would cost less than £50. Why not test every rider at every meeting? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted October 23, 2020 Report Share Posted October 23, 2020 Speedway would have been failing a duty of safety to allow a competitor to race under the influence. If Garrity was aware there'd be a random test at a meeting and he didn't show up, that weakness in the testing procedure is speedway's fault, surely? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted October 23, 2020 Report Share Posted October 23, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, False dawn said: You can't help but wonder if the tests could be made slightly less random. Surely if a rider is a persistent drug user, such knowledge will become well known in a tight knit community. It wouldn't be difficult to "arrange" a test. In fact, evidence of drug taking should be treated in just the same way as a rider smelling of alcohol. There must be provision in the rules for the Clerk of the Course to prevent a rider from riding. I've known of riders suddenly straining their backs getting their bike out of their van when it was known the tester was around. Also engine tests being carried out after the meeting and a 'suspect' doesn't have a good night. All random of course. One night a well known rider rode very average at Brough, and whilst having his engine checked over by the late Will Hunter, technical expert and ex ref, the rider just smirked as if he knew he wouldn't be caught. Who says some riders are not told, and it was not random I can assure you. Our home rider, knew that and why it was happening, was livid as his tuned engine was tampered with on the inspection and as he said, "It's all very well trying to catch him, but now I have to have a full retune and all I get it is a standard £400 fee". Edited October 23, 2020 by Tsunami Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinderfella Posted October 23, 2020 Report Share Posted October 23, 2020 3 hours ago, Richard Weston said: Speedway is a close knit group of people and maybe word gets out to riders when the tester turns up. I occasionally worked for WADA/UKAD in other sports and if Garrity was down to participate in a meeting then failed to show he should have been banned until he undertook a test or supplied a medical certificate. If a rider refused to undertake a test he would be automatically excluded from the meeting and all future meeting until he did take one. Testing can take place in-competition at events or at training/practice events or even at a rider's home with no advance notice given with elite/professional sportsmen usually having to give a copy of their diary and schedule to their sporting authorities so their whereabouts is known. I concur testing all riders for substance abuse would only be a good thing but sadly on-site testing is not always 100% accurate and false readings can occur asa result of taking prescribed or over the counter medication as happened with a well known rider a few years ago 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinderfella Posted October 23, 2020 Report Share Posted October 23, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tsunami said: I've known of riders suddenly straining their backs getting their bike out of their van when it was known the tester was around. Also engine tests being carried out after the meeting and a 'suspect' doesn't have a good night. All random of course. One night a well known rider rode very average at Brough, and whilst having his engine checked over by the late Will Hunter, technical expert and ex ref, the rider just smirked as if he knew he wouldn't be caught. Who says some riders are not told, and it was not random I can assure you. Our home rider, knew that and why it was happening, was livid as his tuned engine was tampered with on the inspection and as he said, "It's all very well trying to catch him, but now I have to have a full retune and all I get it is a standard £400 fee". I was shocked to recently discover that putting a short stroke piston into a long stroke cylinder actually increases the capacity but is quite a common practice. As regards engine inspections I know of two incident, one involving a Diamonds rider who refused to let the referee check his carb size using the SCB supplied measuring gauge until he was shown it had been Vernier Measurement certified for accuracy and the other involved a top rider refusing to pre-meeting inspection of his carb in the pits because of the amount of dirt about. Edited October 23, 2020 by cinderfella 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted October 23, 2020 Report Share Posted October 23, 2020 10 minutes ago, cinderfella said: I was shocked to recently discover that putting a short stroke piston into a long stroke cylinder actually increases the capacity but is quite a common practice. How does that work ? If the capacity is the bore x stroke the capacity is always going to be the same for a given piston diameter surely ? is an engine is a short stroke engine the bore( and therefore the piston diameter ) must be bigger. If it is a long stroke engine to cylinder bore will be narrower and a short stroke piston wouldn’t fit. Does anybody ride long stroke engines anymore ? I thought they went out with the J.A.Ps in the sixties / early seventies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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