tigerowl Posted December 16, 2020 Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 I don't think the length of the immunity has been established yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted December 16, 2020 Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 No. That is why I said 'supposed'. But estimations are for something like that time period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted December 16, 2020 Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 19 minutes ago, iris123 said: No. That is why I said 'supposed'. But estimations are for something like that time period. HAVE seen estimates of a minimum of nine months but only time will tell. Need to be positive ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted December 16, 2020 Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 Just now, PHILIPRISING said: HAVE seen estimates of a minimum of nine months but only time will tell. Need to be positive ... Not seen those Phil. Must admit I was surprised at 3 months, but never really thought about how long a vaccine works.......I do agree with that last bit. We all need some good news and I was looking forward to the 2020 season. Now try to focus on 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted December 16, 2020 Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 14 minutes ago, iris123 said: Not seen those Phil. Must admit I was surprised at 3 months, but never really thought about how long a vaccine works.......I do agree with that last bit. We all need some good news and I was looking forward to the 2020 season. Now try to focus on 2021 FROM a google site ... Once someone is vaccinated for COVID-19, their body should naturally develop antibodies that correspond with the virus and ward off future infection, but it’s still not clear how long those antibodies will last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerowl Posted December 16, 2020 Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 Well, I'm relatively confident of a gradual return to normality over the course of next year. I think there may have to be elements of social distancing and mask wearing indoors in certain situations until the end of the summer, but even the pessimistic Chris Whitty who predicted no vaccine until the middle of next year (if ever), thinks there will be a gradual relaxation from the spring. There will be elements of society who won't come out from hiding behind their settees but if that's how they want to live their lives, it's up to them. From what I saw at Scunthorpe this year, there is still a large enthusiasm for speedway, even in the older end of the population and I woudn't be surprised if all elements of social activity, including speedway, saw something of a resurgence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted December 16, 2020 Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 16 minutes ago, tigerowl said: Well, I'm relatively confident of a gradual return to normality over the course of next year. I think there may have to be elements of social distancing and mask wearing indoors in certain situations until the end of the summer, but even the pessimistic Chris Whitty who predicted no vaccine until the middle of next year (if ever), thinks there will be a gradual relaxation from the spring. There will be elements of society who won't come out from hiding behind their settees but if that's how they want to live their lives, it's up to them. From what I saw at Scunthorpe this year, there is still a large enthusiasm for speedway, even in the older end of the population and I woudn't be surprised if all elements of social activity, including speedway, saw something of a resurgence. HOPE you are right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedtiger Posted December 16, 2020 Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 Businesses and Sports will survive this pandemic BUT what state and level will they be in after being beaten up by the worlds biggest health and economic crisis in over a hundred years? As far as speedway is concerned a return to ‘normal’ would be a return to a very poor level, even before the Covid crisis the sport was in a critically bad shape, unsustainable, clubs losing fortunes and going bust and the sport still being run by incompetent clowns in Rugby. Being realistic a return to ‘normal’ is not something I can get over excited about! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerowl Posted December 16, 2020 Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 I can only speak for myself, but my enthusiasm for speedway has been restored in the past year. I've been watching since 1974 and had become disillusioned in recent years. I have kept taking the Star (fantastic work Mr. Rising), but my visits to the track had dwindled. I've now realised how much I've missed the sport and will be going more regularly as soon as I am able. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinmauger Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 4 hours ago, tigerowl said: I can only speak for myself, but my enthusiasm for speedway has been restored in the past year. I've been watching since 1974 and had become disillusioned in recent years. I have kept taking the Star (fantastic work Mr. Rising), but my visits to the track had dwindled. I've now realised how much I've missed the sport and will be going more regularly as soon as I am able. This ^^ word for word. Was all up for going to the Ben Fund Meet at Scunny, day before got a 'cold in der dose' so cried off. Next day felt a lot better (as you do), by 4pm, so too late, thought "nice day, heck I could probably have gone after all. Still, there will be loads more speedway to come............."..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 13 hours ago, tigerowl said: Well, I'm relatively confident of a gradual return to normality over the course of next year. I think there may have to be elements of social distancing and mask wearing indoors in certain situations until the end of the summer, but even the pessimistic Chris Whitty who predicted no vaccine until the middle of next year (if ever), thinks there will be a gradual relaxation from the spring. There will be elements of society who won't come out from hiding behind their settees but if that's how they want to live their lives, it's up to them. From what I saw at Scunthorpe this year, there is still a large enthusiasm for speedway, even in the older end of the population and I woudn't be surprised if all elements of social activity, including speedway, saw something of a resurgence. Last night was my 31st non league football match since August 30th. Add that to the 4 speedway meetings i attended, means i definitely haven't been hiding. I haven't been taking unnecessary risks either. Being a key worker has probably helped. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 15 hours ago, PHILIPRISING said: HAVE seen estimates of a minimum of nine months but only time will tell. Need to be positive ... Only if you want to spend 10 days at home isolating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skodaman Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Najjer said: Only if you want to spend 10 days at home isolating No one knows the time factor as the trialists have not had the viccine long enough to judge. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 43 minutes ago, Skodaman said: No one knows the time factor as the trialists have not had the viccine long enough to judge. Well if their immunity has already dropped then they do. But the immune response has been reported as varied but you have to winder at reports of 9 months to a few years. Let’s just hope it is enough to get out of this chaos once and for all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enotian Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 On 12/16/2020 at 7:09 PM, PHILIPRISING said: FROM a google site ... Once someone is vaccinated for COVID-19, their body should naturally develop antibodies that correspond with the virus and ward off future infection, but it’s still not clear how long those antibodies will last. very strange. my understanding of antibodies is that the body does develop them, sometimes requiring a vaccine to identify the contagion, but I wasn't aware that the (healthy) body could then forget how to generate those antibodies. If that were the case wouldn't we constantly need top up vaccinations for all kinds on diseases that we've been inoculated against?? Unless this virus is mutating? Lots of strange messages out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 34 minutes ago, enotian said: very strange. my understanding of antibodies is that the body does develop them, sometimes requiring a vaccine to identify the contagion, but I wasn't aware that the (healthy) body could then forget how to generate those antibodies. If that were the case wouldn't we constantly need top up vaccinations for all kinds on diseases that we've been inoculated against?? Unless this virus is mutating? Lots of strange messages out there. I thought that this possibility was aired at the launchtime of the vaccine in the UK. There are several unknowns like fertility of women. and possibility of its reaction in people taking multiple medicines, which were not able to be tested in the haste to produce a vaccine to help to stave off the virus. Only realtime experience will say how long the vaccine will be working successfully, but there has been a view expressed that it could be similar to the Flu virus, with the need to have an annual injection say in September/October to get us over the worst period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted December 18, 2020 Report Share Posted December 18, 2020 8 hours ago, enotian said: very strange. my understanding of antibodies is that the body does develop them, sometimes requiring a vaccine to identify the contagion, but I wasn't aware that the (healthy) body could then forget how to generate those antibodies. If that were the case wouldn't we constantly need top up vaccinations for all kinds on diseases that we've been inoculated against?? Unless this virus is mutating? Lots of strange messages out there. You do constantly need top up vaccinations for some diseases Rabies for instance requires one every 2 years at most if you work in a job where it is considered a danger Typhoid requires a top up every 2-5 years according to which vaccine you have Whooping Cough requires a top up every 10 years if you work with young infants Whereas if you have the MMR vaccine it is considered to be life time protection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS50 Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 Whilst having sympathy for the difficult position promoters must be in, can't help but feel that all season ticket holders from last year, who rolled over their tickets to this year, ought to be getting some information about what they may possibly expect in 2021. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhoundp Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 5 hours ago, RS50 said: Whilst having sympathy for the difficult position promoters must be in, can't help but feel that all season ticket holders from last year, who rolled over their tickets to this year, ought to be getting some information about what they may possibly expect in 2021. I think following on from the most recent news conference, I would be saying to fans dont pin to much hope on an Easter start to the season, if the Tier system is still in place then how will that work, Tier 3/4 no fans, Tiers 1/2 up to 2000 fans, basically if the tier system is still in place then we cant really start the season, as an example prior to today Kent, Somerset can have fans but Birmingham, Sheffield cant have fans, how will that work ?. We simply do not know how this Pandemic is going to pan out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 5 hours ago, RS50 said: Whilst having sympathy for the difficult position promoters must be in, can't help but feel that all season ticket holders from last year, who rolled over their tickets to this year, ought to be getting some information about what they may possibly expect in 2021. I am in that position where my 2020 season will rollover to 2021, hopefully we will see speedway then. I`m sure the promotions will get all relevant information out when the time comes. A lot can happen in four months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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