IainB Posted July 27, 2021 Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 40 minutes ago, racers and royals said: My final post on the subject- if you can`t see it you never will !!! 2 GP rounds only i know Janowski 1st Extraleague pos 1 A Laguta 2nd Extraleague pos 3 Sayfutdinov 3rd Extraleague pos 11 Lindgren 4th Extraleague pos 29 Woffinden 5th Extraleague pos 8th Zmarzlik 6th Extraleague pos 2nd Vaculik 7th Extraleague pos 4th Madsen 8th Extraleague pos 7th Your honour i rest my case 2 GP's does not a season make. As I said in my original comment yes I think Fred is under performing a bit. But you can't deny there's some real track specialists riding for Polish clubs, always have been, always will be. Kolodziej is another example, a far tougher opponent in Poland than he would be in a GP at Mallila. So you also need to list those riders competing in the Ekstraliga that aren't in the GP's. Case closed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted July 27, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 10 minutes ago, iainb said: 2 GP's does not a season make. As I said in my original comment yes I think Fred is under performing a bit. But you can't deny there's some real track specialists riding for Polish clubs, always have been, always will be. Kolodziej is another example, a far tougher opponent in Poland than he would be in a GP at Mallila. So you also need to list those riders competing in the Ekstraliga that aren't in the GP's. Case closed Not quite https://sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/pge-ekstraliga/statystyki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted July 27, 2021 Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, racers and royals said: Not quite https://sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/pge-ekstraliga/statystyki Also don't forget that GP positioning does not truly reflect race points scored. When you look at his actual GP race points of 10,7 & 8... it's not too far away from his 7.67 match average in Poland which actually puts him at a slightly better 22nd in the list of the Ekstraliga. Edited July 27, 2021 by iainb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) Could a rider from one of the lower Polish leagues be drafted into the Ekstaliga as a replacement due to injury? And if so would the 2 leagues only rule be applied? Meaning, would a rider have to drop a league mid-season? Edited July 28, 2021 by iainb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted July 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 51 minutes ago, iainb said: Could a rider from one of the lower Polish leagues be drafted into the Ekstaliga as a replacement due to injury? And if so would the 2 leagues only rule be applied? Meaning, would a rider have to drop a league mid-season? No- it would have to be a transfer- made during the remaining transfer periods.( they do have squads) - mid-year transfer window III: July 27, 2021 - July 31, 2021 - mid-year transfer window iv: August 23, 2021 - August 27, 2021 The team would still need to meet the league requirements of min Poles, U24 etc I would think the 1 other league would apply to anyone coming in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 On 7/27/2021 at 12:13 PM, iainb said: 2 GP's does not a season make. As I said in my original comment yes I think Fred is under performing a bit. But you can't deny there's some real track specialists riding for Polish clubs, always have been, always will be. Kolodziej is another example, a far tougher opponent in Poland than he would be in a GP at Mallila. So you also need to list those riders competing in the Ekstraliga that aren't in the GP's. Case closed He is more than underperforming abit, for the first half of the season he was especially poor. He’s been better in recent weeks but not at the standards expected or required of him... or he reaches in the GPs! He came under fire from Częstochowa fans earlier in the year too for spending too much time focusing on marketing an advertising monster energy than practising and going quicker. Tough crowd to please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 hour ago, racers and royals said: No- it would have to be a transfer- made during the remaining transfer periods.( they do have squads) - mid-year transfer window III: July 27, 2021 - July 31, 2021 - mid-year transfer window iv: August 23, 2021 - August 27, 2021 The team would still need to meet the league requirements of min Poles, U24 etc I would think the 1 other league would apply to anyone coming in. I was thinking while watching the Swedish match last night that Luke Becker must be on the Ekstaliga clubs radar, like Holder, Lidsey & Bewley have been and that if a rider for one of these clubs were to get injured, or I were looking to make a change to bolster up the side, Becker would be one of the the first riders I'd be looking to sign. "The Little Missile" already rides, Poland, Sweden & UK, so something would have to give, could there be a suitcase full of Zloty's heading the way of Monmore Green anytime soon I wonder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted July 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, iainb said: I was thinking while watching the Swedish match last night that Luke Becker must be on the Ekstaliga clubs radar, like Holder, Lidsey & Bewley have been and that if a rider for one of these clubs were to get injured, or I were looking to make a change to bolster up the side, Becker would be one of the the first riders I'd be looking to sign. "The Little Missile" already rides, Poland, Sweden & UK, so something would have to give, could there be a suitcase full of Zloty's heading the way of Monmore Green anytime soon I wonder? In 2022 certainly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 51 minutes ago, racers and royals said: In 2022 certainly. He'd essentially be a "free agent" then though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 He’s riding in the iliga this season, and there’s a good few better than him in that league really, although if he’s still u24, could be up for a place in the Ekstraliga next season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted July 29, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 (edited) Sunday’s matches line-ups Zielona Gora v Leszno Zielona Gora 9 Zagar 10 Fricke 11 Protasiewicz 12 Tonder 13 Dudek 14 Osyczka 15 Tufft 16 Leszno 1 Sayfutdinov 2 Kolodziej 3 Szlauderbach 4 Doyle 5 Piotr Pawlicki 6 Ratajczak 7 Pludra 8 Gorzow v Wroclaw Gorzow 9 Wozniak 10 Thomsen 11 Vaculik 12 Karczmarz 13 Zmarzlik 14 Ralcewicz 15 Pytlewski 16 Wroclaw 1 Woffinden 2 Chugunov 3 A Laguta 4 Bewley 5 Janowski 6 Liska 7 M Curzytek Edited July 29, 2021 by racers and royals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted July 29, 2021 Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 21 hours ago, iainb said: He'd essentially be a "free agent" then though Not sure how long a contract be signed with Łódź this year, I would presume probably more than just a year though. With riders like Jeppeson, Krakowiak, Birkemose etc not really cutting it this year, you have to think he will be we’ll sought after for one of the under-24 positions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted July 29, 2021 Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 3 hours ago, Najjer said: Not sure how long a contract be signed with Łódź this year, I would presume probably more than just a year though. With riders like Jeppeson, Krakowiak, Birkemose etc not really cutting it this year, you have to think he will be we’ll sought after for one of the under-24 positions Do the Poles bribe their own clubs mid season to release riders like they did with a certain British club? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted July 30, 2021 Report Share Posted July 30, 2021 17 hours ago, iainb said: Do the Poles bribe their own clubs mid season to release riders like they did with a certain British club? That’s not a bribe - that’s what in most sports would be called a transfer fee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted July 30, 2021 Report Share Posted July 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, Najjer said: That’s not a bribe - that’s what in most sports would be called a transfer fee. I'm taking about Jack Holder gate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 On 7/28/2021 at 2:21 PM, Najjer said: He is more than underperforming abit, for the first half of the season he was especially poor. He’s been better in recent weeks but not at the standards expected or required of him... or he reaches in the GPs! He came under fire from Częstochowa fans earlier in the year too for spending too much time focusing on marketing an advertising monster energy than practising and going quicker. Tough crowd to please! Another "average" performance from Fred last night, just like his whole season has been so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted August 1, 2021 Report Share Posted August 1, 2021 Looked at today's fixtures on the PGE Ekstraliga site, noticed the semi-finals of the playoffs are already on there, I assume this is automatic by the site? Because no final league position is yet assured. As far as the playoffs go avoiding Leszno in the semi would be advantageous, it looks as if the Bulls will finish 4th could that affect the result of the top two today when Wroclaw travel to Gorzow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted August 1, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2021 On 7/27/2021 at 8:48 AM, racers and royals said: We move on to Sunday`s 2 matches. Zielona Gora v Leszno is a massive match- ZG really need to get a result or DIV 1 could beckon !!!- bonus point situation in brackets- home team 1st) Sunday August 1st Zielona Gora v Leszno start time 3.30pm UK time N Sport and Premier Sport 1( 36-54) Sunday August 1st Gorzow v Wroclaw start time 6.15pm UK time N Sport and Premier Sport 1( 38-52) Today’s matches- i can’t post any links as i am away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted August 1, 2021 Report Share Posted August 1, 2021 If I'm home when they start I'll post the link from Vk SpeedwayRUS but I don't know if I will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted August 1, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2021 Zielona Gora v Leszno is OFF today- now tomorrow Monday 2nd August at 7.15pm UK time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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