Najjer Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 24 minutes ago, HenryW said: I thought Lambert was being rumoured to be heading to Torun rather than Gorzow. If all your rumoured teams come off, there's not much left for Zielona Gora. They could be in some trouble. 7 minutes ago, KingoftheTrack said: Rumours are just rumours though so if you're a ZG fan then no need to panic just yet. I'd take a punt on Zielona Gora lining up with Dudek, Tungate, Jeppeson, Zagar and Protasiewicz... assuming their bid to hang onto Vaculik isn't successful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Przemek Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 18 minutes ago, HenryW said: I thought Lambert was being rumoured to be heading to Torun rather than Gorzow. If all your rumoured teams come off, there's not much left for Zielona Gora. They could be in some trouble. That's right. It's rumoured that Lambert is locked for Toruń. I don't think that Gorzów have enough money to sign him as they offered a hefty contract (largest in Ekstraliga history) to Zmarzlik and Lambert's demands are pretty high. As for Zielona Góra the big problem there is that the owners have fallen out with themselves. It is said that they don't have money enough not only to keep Vaculik, but even to get the reliable replacement for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, Przemek said: That's right. It's rumoured that Lambert is locked for Toruń. I don't think that Gorzów have enough money to sign him as they offered a hefty contract (largest in Ekstraliga history) to Zmarzlik and Lambert's demands are pretty high. As for Zielona Góra the big problem there is that the owners have fallen out with themselves. It is said that they don't have money enough not only to keep Vaculik, but even to get the reliable replacement for him. Other than being frozen out, I think it's about the only option that's left on the table for Matej Zagar. I can't see how he can be accomodated anywhere else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Przemek Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 20 minutes ago, Najjer said: Other than being frozen out, I think it's about the only option that's left on the table for Matej Zagar. I can't see how he can be accomodated anywhere else Definitely. It seems like Zagar and ZG are doomed to each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BartoszZmarzlikFan Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 Fill in the blanks imo. Włókniarz Częstochowa Leon Madsen, Fredrik Lindgren, Bartosz Smektała, Kacper Woryna, Jonas Jeppesen (U24), Jakub Miśkowiak & Mateusz Świdnicki Stal Gorzów Anders Thomsen, Martin Vaculik, Bartosz Zmarzlik, Szymon Woźniak, Rafał Karczmarz (U24), Wiktor Jasiński & Kamil Nowacki GKM Grudziądz Nicki Pedersen, Kenneth Bjerre, Przemysław Pawlicki, Krzysztof Kasprzak, Roman Lachbaum (U24), Denis Zieliński & Kacper Łobodziński Unia Leszno Emil Sajfutdinow, Jason Doyle, Janusz Kołodziej, Piotr Pawlicki, Jaimon Lidsey (U24) & Kacper Pludra Motor Lublin Grigorij Laguta, Mikkel Michelsen, Jarosław Hampel, Dominik Kubera (U24) & Wiktor Lampart Apator Toruń Chris Holder, Jack Holder, Paweł Przedpełski & Robert Lambert (U24) Sparta Wrocław Tai Woffinden, Artem Laguta, Maciej Janowski, Przemysław Liszka & Michał Curzytek Zielona Góra Matej Zagar, Rohan Tungate, Patryk Dudek, Piotr Protasiewicz & Norbert Krakowiak (U24) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 10 hours ago, KingoftheTrack said: Rafal Karczmarz confirmed for Gorzow. Which should complete the 2021 septet. Bartek Zmarzlik, Martin Vaculik, Anders Thomsen, Szymon Wozniak, Rafal Karczmarz (U24), Jasinski & Nowacki as the juniors. Quoted this one across from the other thread - Is Karczmarz now confirmed? Hadn't seen that anywhere but will add it to the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 21 hours ago, PolskiZuzel said: Tai Woffinden, despite having broken hand, did his best to make sure that his team Wroclaw reached for bronze medal in the Polish Speedway ExtraLiga. He made available for Dan Bewley not only his engines from Ryszard Kowalski, but also mechanics, and during the two final matches personally supervised the progress.The effect was surprisingly good, because the young Bewley scored 23 points in two matches for the bronze medal and was by far the biggest surprise at the end of the season. Most importantly, the 21-year-old rode not only efficiently, but also very effectively, and confirmed that his problems at the start of the season were due to poor equipment and not fear of risky riding. (…)His position in the Wroclaw team will be rather unchallenged, because currently Tai Woffinden, Artiom Łaguta, Maciej Janowski, Gleb Czugunow and Bewley are sure of a contract for the next season. In recent weeks, several clubs have applied for the Brit, but Wrocław have told them that they do not intend to release him. (source: Przegląd Sportowy) 19 hours ago, Mark said: Very pleased to read this. Dan had a poor year so this will give him loads of confidence. He might get better engines next year. It was great to see Bewley finally showing the form that we've seen him show around the NSS. His kit is quite obviously not up to scratch for Polish League racing and it must have been a bit of an eye opener for him (and me). How he goes about funding the investment that is obviously needed in his equipment is the big question as it's a bit of a chicken and egg situation. Maybe GB Speedway should step in and invest in the machinery he needs, like they did with with Steve Worrall & Danny King (I think) a few years back, although I don't think it was under the GB Speedway badge back then. Maybe they could offer some kind of loan scheme, like a student loan, and the rider starts paying back their loan when they have reached a certain standard (earnings) in the Polish League. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 Rumblings of Torun choosing between Tobiasz Musielak and Adrian Miedzinski for one of their senior Polish riders in their team, with others suggesting they take a punt on Gregorz Zengota. Personally speaking I wouldn't have Miedzinski anywhere near my team but he's obviously been at Torun in the past for a number of years. I have also updated the post on the first page to now include teams 'outgoing riders' so that it's easy to track who has left and where they have gone to. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 Presumably Max Fricke whose birthday is the end of March next year, where he turns 25, could be frozen out also. He will be too old to qualify for one of the under-24 team positions and looks unlikely to fit in at Wroclaw if they sign Artem Laguta as expected and keep Tai Woffinden. Not really much room left for him to go anywhere else other than Zielona Gora or into Division 1. Not ideal for a Grand Prix rider! Wroclaw I would also presume are likely to end up with Laguta and Woffinden as their overseas riders, Janowski with options to declare Chugonov as the other Pole or the under 24 rider along with Dan Bewley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BartoszZmarzlikFan Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Najjer said: Quoted this one across from the other thread - Is Karczmarz now confirmed? Hadn't seen that anywhere but will add it to the list. Sorry mate. I posted that on the wrong thread. Yes it's a confirmed deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BartoszZmarzlikFan Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 Rafał Karczmarz has set conditions for cooperation with the Club and will stay with yellow and blue colors for the 2021 season We are counting on the further development of the student of Steel Gorzów and we are convinced that he will be an important member of the Team 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BartoszZmarzlikFan Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 44 minutes ago, Najjer said: Presumably Max Fricke whose birthday is the end of March next year, where he turns 25, could be frozen out also. He will be too old to qualify for one of the under-24 team positions and looks unlikely to fit in at Wroclaw if they sign Artem Laguta as expected and keep Tai Woffinden. Not really much room left for him to go anywhere else other than Zielona Gora or into Division 1. Not ideal for a Grand Prix rider! Wroclaw I would also presume are likely to end up with Laguta and Woffinden as their overseas riders, Janowski with options to declare Chugonov as the other Pole or the under 24 rider along with Dan Bewley. Cant they have Fricke & Chugunov (U24) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, KingoftheTrack said: Cant they have Fricke & Chugunov (U24) If they have Woffinden, Laguta, Fricke, Chugonov (U24) and Janowski, they have only got 1 Polish senior rider in the team... unless they pull another dodgy one and get Laguta to turn into a Pole too! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 Just now, Najjer said: Polish senior rider in the team... unless they pull another dodgy one and get Laguta to turn into a Pole too! Well he has a Polish passport doesn't he.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 Apologies if I’ve missed it but why is Kubera leaving Leszno? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 15 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: Apologies if I’ve missed it but why is Kubera leaving Leszno? I think there is a number of reasons. He’s no longer classed as a junior rider so would need to ride in the main 1-5 of the team, otherwise I can’t imagine Leszno would be letting him go. They already have Lidsey as their U24 rider and whilst they are being linked with riders like Jason Doyle, it would be a straight toss up between him and Kubera. Kubera himself said after the play off final that he wanted to ‘spread his wings’ and go somewhere else to learn more and become a better rider. He said aswell he would want to return to Leszno in years to come further down the line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 Reports from Torun today confirming their interest in Gregorz Zengota, whilst also hinting at the make up of the team being Jack Holder, Chris Holder, Pawel Przedpelski, Robert Lambert and then one from Tobiasz Musielek, Adrian Miedzinski or Gregorz Zengota as I mentioned in an earlier post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BartoszZmarzlikFan Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 5 hours ago, Najjer said: Reports from Torun today confirming their interest in Gregorz Zengota, whilst also hinting at the make up of the team being Jack Holder, Chris Holder, Pawel Przedpelski, Robert Lambert and then one from Tobiasz Musielek, Adrian Miedzinski or Gregorz Zengota as I mentioned in an earlier post. They should go for Zengi imo. Zengi hit the ground running for Bydgoszcz when you would've thought it would've taken him some time. Miedzinski is too erratic for Ekstraliga Speedway imo. Musielak is probably the weakest of the three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 (edited) What exactly is the point? If Doyle joins Leszno then the Polish league is over. The Polish speedway league is the same as France and Germany's football league, pointless! Edited October 13, 2020 by KeirStarmerFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BartoszZmarzlikFan Posted October 14, 2020 Report Share Posted October 14, 2020 NKI in talks with Gorzow to sign as a backup squad rider due to him having no interest in riding in the 2nd tier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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