Polish Extraleague 2021 Play-off finals 2nd legs Sunday 26th September live on TV

[mikebv]

12 hours ago, KeirStarmerFan said:

That final was a shambles and unfair. One side was so much stronger than the other.

Say what you want about the BSPA but the guest system makes meetings fairer.

Lublin should have been allowed a guest like Dudek for Laguta.

What absolute nonsense...

Never heard anything so daft in all my life...

Zmarzlik should have been the guest allowed for Lublin..

Given Gorzow didnt make the final, they should have changed the days of the play offs to allow him to ride for Gorzow AND Lublin...

Or at least allowed Gorzow a ZZ facility to cover his Lublin outing on the same day if a fixture change couldn't happen..

Thank goodness the BSPL dont run the sport like their Polish counterparts do...

It would be a disaster wouldnt it?

 

[LagutaRacingFan]

4 minutes ago, mikebv said:

What absolute nonsense...

Never heard anything so daft in all my life...

Zmarzlik should have been the guest allowed for Lublin..

Given Gorzow didnt make the final, they should have changed the days of the play offs to allow him to ride for Gorzow AND Lublin...

Or at least allowed Gorzow a ZZ facility to cover his Lublin outing on the same day if a fixture change couldn't happen..

Thank goodness the BSPL dont run the sport like their Polish counterparts do...

It would be a disaster wouldnt it?

 

So one team has Janowski, Laguta and Woffinden.

The other team doesn't have a single GP rider.

How is that fair? Poland should bring back the 1 GP rider rule.

[mikebv]

8 minutes ago, KeirStarmerFan said:

So one team has Janowski, Laguta and Woffinden.

The other team doesn't have a single GP rider.

How is that fair? Poland should bring back the 1 GP rider rule.

They had the European Champion.

Who is a GP rider next year..

And sport often isnt "fair"...

That's the premise behind it that makes it watchable...

Can an underdog upset the favourite..?

eg was it 'fair' that Anthony Joshua was several stone heavier, and a good few inches taller, than his opponent on Saturday? 

Didnt stop Usyk taking him apart did it?

And the Polish RR system can cover a top rider quite adequately...

You win or lose as a team..

Not a hybrid, contrived, "for one night only", septet...

Because if you allow that...

Not many will be interested in watching it, televising it, and sponsoring it...

 

 

 

[Fromafar]

27 minutes ago, mikebv said:

What absolute nonsense...

Never heard anything so daft in all my life...

Zmarzlik should have been the guest allowed for Lublin..

Given Gorzow didnt make the final, they should have changed the days of the play offs to allow him to ride for Gorzow AND Lublin...

Or at least allowed Gorzow a ZZ facility to cover his Lublin outing on the same day if a fixture change couldn't happen..

Thank goodness the BSPL dont run the sport like their Polish counterparts do...

It would be a disaster wouldnt it?

 

Think Lublin will be happy the way”their” Team performed given  the injury to Laguta.Polish supporters support “their” team and associate with them.In GB it’s just anybody we can find to ride for us system.Just a joke sport here on who are Champions and Cup winners.It means so much more in Poland.

[IronScorpion]

4 hours ago, mikebv said:

What absolute nonsense...

Never heard anything so daft in all my life...

Zmarzlik should have been the guest allowed for Lublin..

Given Gorzow didnt make the final, they should have changed the days of the play offs to allow him to ride for Gorzow AND Lublin...

Or at least allowed Gorzow a ZZ facility to cover his Lublin outing on the same day if a fixture change couldn't happen..

Thank goodness the BSPL dont run the sport like their Polish counterparts do...

It would be a disaster wouldnt it?

 

He will be slating the British system of guests & r/r probably all this week. Best to have him on ignore(barring other posters quoting his posts. 100% utter

[racers and royals]

Some great news from the Jablonski family

Mirosław Jabłoński

 · 

I am alive! He has woken up! Mati is doing well! It's a long way to go, but most importantly, we can plan it together!!!

[IainB]

21 hours ago, mikebv said:

And sport often isnt "fair"...

It is fair though, Lublin had exactly the same opportunity to put together the team Wroclaw did... What would have been unfair is if the final had been run over 11 rounds with 6 of them being held in Wroclaw, 1 at Lublin, and 4 others on neutral tracks 

[racers and royals]

In 2022 the Extraleague is almost certainly altering the play- offs to increase it to 6 teams qualifying thus increasing the season’s total matches from 64 to 70.

[Najjer]

7 hours ago, racers and royals said:

In 2022 the Extraleague is almost certainly altering the play- offs to increase it to 6 teams qualifying thus increasing the season’s total matches from 64 to 70.

I think it’s a shame, especially the “best loser” getting into the semi finals.

I wonder why they haven’t just introduced a cup competition for more matches? The play offs work great currently.

[allthegearbutnaeidea]

On 9/28/2021 at 11:44 AM, racers and royals said:

In 2022 the Extraleague is almost certainly altering the play- offs to increase it to 6 teams qualifying thus increasing the season’s total matches from 64 to 70.

yet still 8 teams? stupid imo

[Fromafar]

5 hours ago, allthegearbutnaeidea said:

yet still 8 teams? stupid imo

Tend to agree, but the Teams in Poland seem to be more evenly match ,so probably not many meaningless fixtures.

[Najjer]

5 hours ago, Fromafar said:

Tend to agree, but the Teams in Poland seem to be more evenly match ,so probably not many meaningless fixtures.

That’s why I think a KO Cup would be perfect 

[mikebv]

You can see the logic..

Keeps the season going for those fifth, six, seventh and eighth and keeps their fans interested.. 

Within a match or two you could be in the play offs or relegated...

Also, isnt the plan to extend the top league to ten teams?

Maybe it will be done the season after?

Meaning the seventh and eighth teams dont "coast" knowing no relegation rides on it...

And obviously, the play offs bring big crowds, and I presume, very good viewing figures..

Edited September 30, 2021 by mikebv

[racers and royals]

Maksym Drabik has been out practicing in Lublin and feeling good.

[PolskiZuzel]

On 9/27/2021 at 11:25 AM, Fromafar said:

One side is always going to win.

So which side won in the first match at Lublin ?

[PolskiZuzel]

On 9/26/2021 at 9:36 PM, Robinh88 said:

Whoever runs operations at Wroclaw deserves huge credit. The planning and execution has been fantastic to follow.

Below you can read excerpts from an article written by Lukasz Kuczera in the Sportowe Fakty website

https://sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/962437/malzenstwo-ktore-wygralo-polska-lige-klub-traktuja-jak-dziecko

 

(…)  Andrzej Rusko, president of Betard Sparta Wroclaw, the new Polish champion  has been working in speedway for over 30 years. During this period, he created a tycoon in Lower Silesia, the richest club in Poland.

It was the beginning of the 90s, when speedway in Wroclaw was declining,  and then appeared a man called - Andrzej Rusko . An efficient manager and businessman who started to introduce ideas straight from the West. Ensuring  support of Poland’s first private TV channel Polsat TV, which was a novelty at the time - the clubs did not have title sponsors, or bikes from respected tuners, gave the medals they wanted. Three years in a row, (1993-1995) the speedway riders from Wroclaw did not descend from the throne .

On Sunday 26 Sept.2021, Betard Sparta Wroclaw  became the Polish champion for the fifth time in history. Although the speedway traditions in the capital of Lower Silesia date back to the early 1950s, the club won all the titles in the Rusko era. It is hardly surprising, however, since he himself treats the club as his child.

Sparta is our common child. Mine, Christine's  and many other people. The child that was born grew and gave us a lot of joy - said Andrzej Rusko when the association he founded celebrated its 25th anniversary. During this period, he could always count on the support of his wife - Christine Kloc . It was she who took the lead when he decided to head Poland's  football  Ekstraklasa. (…)  

When Rusko was active in Ekstraklasa, the club found itself in a black hole. Back then, it fought to stay in the PGE Ekstraliga , had a worse squad, and the Olympic Stadium, which was reminiscent of the communist times, deterred fans. 

This worse period of Betard Sparta is remembered by Tai Woffinden . The Brit, a three-time world champion, joined the club in the 2012 season. As he says himself, Krystyna Kloc saved his career, because the people of Wroclaw stretched out a helping hand to him at the right moment. As Woffinden climbed the ranks of the world speedway, so did Betard Sparta

I've waited 10 years for this. I just cried - said Woffinden  after winning the gold with Wroclaw, For the last several months now Wroclaw  is his home. He has bought a house 20 minutes from the track and moved in with his family.

If  Woffinden has been waiting for gold for many years, so did Rusko. Wroclaw celebrated the last title in 2006. After lean years, fat years have come. In recent seasons, they regularly appeared in the playoffs, but they always missed  the dot on i. Ironically, each time they had on their way their biggest rival - Fogo Unia Leszno .

The Wroclaw president’s dream was to celebrate gold in 2017 - it was the first season of competitions at the completely renovated Olympic Stadium. For the amount of PLN 120 million in Lower Silesia, they acquired one of the most beautiful speedway facilities in Poland. The activists also did a gigantic marketing job. Suddenly it turned out that 12-13 thousand fans can appear in the stands at every match. Currently, no one says that Wroclaw, as a city, is too big for speedway. On the contrary. Before this year's finals of PGE Ekstraliga with Motor Lublin,  there were voices that if the facility had 30,000 capacity, it would also be able to fill it.

In order to be successful, Andrzej Rusko had to deviate a bit from his policy. For several years in a row, Wroclaw attracted the stars of the young generation, who, with appropriate support, were to reach there a higher level. Before the 2021 season, Artem Laguta was brought in  - one of the best speedway riders in the world, currently the leader of the general classification of the SGP world championship .

All this would not be possible without the city's support. City’s President Jacek Sutryk is a huge fan of speedway. Perhaps in part because he rides a motorcycle himself and has a passion for two wheels. The city's involvement in the speedway sport is greater than in the times of its predecessor, moreover, Wroclaw is organizing the speedway Grand Prix cycle again - from which it gains profits. The presidents of other Polish speedway  clubs say straightforwardly: it is currently the richest club in Poland, with a budget well over PLN 10 million.

Andrzej Rusko has been in this business for so long that he managed to make enemies in it. Betard Sparta and its president have often been accused of doing everything to achieve success. First of all - it does not train its own riders, but only brings in juniors from outside. However, this is also changing before our eyes. For some time now, trainings with the youngest have been actively conducted in Wroclaw, the effects of which should be visible in the future.

[racers and royals]

On 9/27/2021 at 10:29 PM, racers and royals said:

Some great news from the Jablonski family

Mirosław Jabłoński

 · 

I am alive! He has woken up! Mati is doing well! It's a long way to go, but most importantly, we can plan it together!!!

More recent news is that Mateusz has been able to take a few steps out of bed- N Sport commentator Tomasz Dryla who visited him said " it`s a miracle"

[emilali]

22 hours ago, PolskiZuzel said:

Below you can read excerpts from an article written by Lukasz Kuczera in the Sportowe Fakty website

https://sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/962437/malzenstwo-ktore-wygralo-polska-lige-klub-traktuja-jak-dziecko

 

(…)  Andrzej Rusko, president of Betard Sparta Wroclaw, the new Polish champion  has been working in speedway for over 30 years. During this period, he created a tycoon in Lower Silesia, the richest club in Poland.

It was the beginning of the 90s, when speedway in Wroclaw was declining,  and then appeared a man called - Andrzej Rusko . An efficient manager and businessman who started to introduce ideas straight from the West. Ensuring  support of Poland’s first private TV channel Polsat TV, which was a novelty at the time - the clubs did not have title sponsors, or bikes from respected tuners, gave the medals they wanted. Three years in a row, (1993-1995) the speedway riders from Wroclaw did not descend from the throne .

On Sunday 26 Sept.2021, Betard Sparta Wroclaw  became the Polish champion for the fifth time in history. Although the speedway traditions in the capital of Lower Silesia date back to the early 1950s, the club won all the titles in the Rusko era. It is hardly surprising, however, since he himself treats the club as his child.

Sparta is our common child. Mine, Christine's  and many other people. The child that was born grew and gave us a lot of joy - said Andrzej Rusko when the association he founded celebrated its 25th anniversary. During this period, he could always count on the support of his wife - Christine Kloc . It was she who took the lead when he decided to head Poland's  football  Ekstraklasa. (…)  

When Rusko was active in Ekstraklasa, the club found itself in a black hole. Back then, it fought to stay in the PGE Ekstraliga , had a worse squad, and the Olympic Stadium, which was reminiscent of the communist times, deterred fans. 

This worse period of Betard Sparta is remembered by Tai Woffinden . The Brit, a three-time world champion, joined the club in the 2012 season. As he says himself, Krystyna Kloc saved his career, because the people of Wroclaw stretched out a helping hand to him at the right moment. As Woffinden climbed the ranks of the world speedway, so did Betard Sparta

I've waited 10 years for this. I just cried - said Woffinden  after winning the gold with Wroclaw, For the last several months now Wroclaw  is his home. He has bought a house 20 minutes from the track and moved in with his family.

If  Woffinden has been waiting for gold for many years, so did Rusko. Wroclaw celebrated the last title in 2006. After lean years, fat years have come. In recent seasons, they regularly appeared in the playoffs, but they always missed  the dot on i. Ironically, each time they had on their way their biggest rival - Fogo Unia Leszno .

The Wroclaw president’s dream was to celebrate gold in 2017 - it was the first season of competitions at the completely renovated Olympic Stadium. For the amount of PLN 120 million in Lower Silesia, they acquired one of the most beautiful speedway facilities in Poland. The activists also did a gigantic marketing job. Suddenly it turned out that 12-13 thousand fans can appear in the stands at every match. Currently, no one says that Wroclaw, as a city, is too big for speedway. On the contrary. Before this year's finals of PGE Ekstraliga with Motor Lublin,  there were voices that if the facility had 30,000 capacity, it would also be able to fill it.

In order to be successful, Andrzej Rusko had to deviate a bit from his policy. For several years in a row, Wroclaw attracted the stars of the young generation, who, with appropriate support, were to reach there a higher level. Before the 2021 season, Artem Laguta was brought in  - one of the best speedway riders in the world, currently the leader of the general classification of the SGP world championship .

All this would not be possible without the city's support. City’s President Jacek Sutryk is a huge fan of speedway. Perhaps in part because he rides a motorcycle himself and has a passion for two wheels. The city's involvement in the speedway sport is greater than in the times of its predecessor, moreover, Wroclaw is organizing the speedway Grand Prix cycle again - from which it gains profits. The presidents of other Polish speedway  clubs say straightforwardly: it is currently the richest club in Poland, with a budget well over PLN 10 million.

Andrzej Rusko has been in this business for so long that he managed to make enemies in it. Betard Sparta and its president have often been accused of doing everything to achieve success. First of all - it does not train its own riders, but only brings in juniors from outside. However, this is also changing before our eyes. For some time now, trainings with the youngest have been actively conducted in Wroclaw, the effects of which should be visible in the future.

Thanks for posting this it was a great read and very inspirational.

[jarekosc]

 Unia Leszno is really good speedway team i am supporting them since i was a child ! Hopefully they can stay on top for next years. zakłady bukmacherskie

Edited February 2, 2022 by jarekosc

[racers and royals]

On 2/2/2022 at 9:07 AM, jarekosc said:

 Unia Leszno is really good speedway team i am supporting them since i was a child ! Hopefully they can stay on top for next years. zakłady bukmacherskie

Welcome to the forum Jarekosc. We have regular poster Stewmac as a big Leszno fan- he might post a photo of his car reg plate.