Daniel Smith Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 10 minutes ago, phillipsr said: Lublin and Leszno for me i dont think Wroclaw look all that to be honest though ill admit i dont know much about there U21 riders A lot of pressure on Laguta to perform imo. Buczkowski, Hampel & Michelson don't really add much to the top 5, Hampel's had his day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 1 hour ago, phillipsr said: Lublin and Leszno for me i dont think Wroclaw look all that to be honest though ill admit i dont know much about there U21 riders The Curzytek brothers remind me of when Kozza Smith first came over to the UK! They could be quite handy when they calm down abit. Liszka is also reasonably handy around their home track Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 Russian Mark Karion joins Lublin as a U24 standby rider Dawid Lampart has also signed a Warsaw contract with Lublin, so he can be loaned to any side before the start of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: A lot of pressure on Laguta to perform imo. Buczkowski, Hampel & Michelson don't really add much to the top 5, Hampel's had his day I think top 3 of Wroclaw is better than but those second strings look to up and down to me and id rather Hampel and Kubera than Chuganov and Bewley Edited November 15, 2020 by phillipsr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 43 minutes ago, phillipsr said: I think top 3 of Wroclaw is better than but those second strings look to up and down to me and id rather Hampel and Kubera than Chuganov and Bewley In my opinion Artem>Grisha Magic>Michelsen Woffy>Hampel Chugunov=Kubera (Kubera away from Leszno home track and winning team mentality levels them out imo) Bewley=Buzz (If Bewley invests in the equipment, quite clearly has potential as shown in play offs, Buzz was awful last season) Liszka<Lampart Curzytek<Cierniak Overall Wroclaw>Lublin, although I like Lublins reserve pairing and u24, Buzz lets that team down a lot imo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandelion Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 Bewley better than buczkowski??? I'm sorry. Not yet. Think Leszno, gorzow, Lublin and wroclaw in that order in playoffs... grudziadz to finish rock bottom with no points. Zielona gore not much ahead of them 1. Leszno 2. Gorzow 3. Lublin 4. Wroclaw 5. Czestochowa 6. Torun 7. Zielona gora 8. Grudziadz Very early season predictions... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 I find this league a bit monotonous as Leszno win most years and will do so again in 2021. There isn't even a sniff of a possible home defeat at Leszno. Dominance isnt attractive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 2 hours ago, Mark said: I find this league a bit monotonous as Leszno win most years and will do so again in 2021. There isn't even a sniff of a possible home defeat at Leszno. Dominance isnt attractive. To us Brits (maybe everyone but Poland) who wins this league is unimportant. What Poland do offer is meetings at a significantly better standard than anything served by our top league, with the exception of Belle Vue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 6 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: To us Brits (maybe everyone but Poland) who wins this league is unimportant. What Poland do offer is meetings at a significantly better standard than anything served by our top league, with the exception of Belle Vue. Not in 2020. The tracks were often poor and the racing not very exciting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickcat0 Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 9 hours ago, Mark said: ............ Dominance isnt attractive. Really? I'll have to introduce you to a couple of ladies that I know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BartoszZmarzlikFan Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 20 hours ago, phillipsr said: Lublin and Leszno for me i dont think Wroclaw look all that to be honest though ill admit i dont know much about there U21 riders Me neither. They need the World Championship version of Woffy to perform every week to have a chance at getting 4th place imo. If they get the recent Ekstraliga version of Woffy then Wroclaw are in trouble imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BartoszZmarzlikFan Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 Not much love for Czestochowa on this thread. If Woryna improves then Czestochowa will be in a fight for 2nd place imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted November 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 It is being reported that there will be no play-offs in Poland again in 2021- which means the bottom club in the Extraleague get relegated and are replaced by the E Winner div 1 top team. the bottom team relegated and replaced by the top team in Div 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 18 hours ago, Mark said: I find this league a bit monotonous as Leszno win most years and will do so again in 2021. There isn't even a sniff of a possible home defeat at Leszno. Dominance isnt attractive. Does it really matter who wins league but I’m sure every fan would be happy for their Team to be Champs.It’s not Lesno’s fault that other Teams can’t match them.I enjoy Polish speedway but don’t mind who wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 10 hours ago, Mark said: Not in 2020. The tracks were often poor and the racing not very exciting. Not a lot of difference from GB then,if that’s your opinion of what you are watching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 40 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Not a lot of difference from GB then,if that’s your opinion of what you are watching. That was my opinion that is why I gave it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 4 hours ago, racers and royals said: It is being reported that there will be no play-offs in Poland again in 2021- which means the bottom club in the Extraleague get relegated and are replaced by the E Winner div 1 top team. the bottom team relegated and replaced by the top team in Div 2 That’s a real shame - play offs always mean there is bound to be excitement right until the end of the season at both ends of the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted November 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, Najjer said: That’s a real shame - play offs always mean there is bound to be excitement right until the end of the season at both ends of the table. Hopefully there won`t be a Torun or Krosno running away with it in 2021. Grudziadz have been in the Extraleague for a few years and will not want to finish bottom, but have to be favourites. I didn`t mention it but the Extraleague play-offs for the top 4 remain in 2021. Edited November 17, 2020 by racers and royals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchGrasstrack Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 Milik with a warsaw contract in Zielona Gora. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 Damian Lotarski has left Grudziadz. They’ve now only got 2 juniors left in their ranks, weakening their already weak juniors even further! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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