Guest compost Posted October 6, 2020 Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 54 minutes ago, chunky said: Most of them I went to have closed down! My opinion as far as records and history (and darts is the same as speedway) is that the governing bodies have all the stats, so why can't THEY make them available? It's obviously easier now with the internet, but surely they have some kind of accessible history? Of course, we are talking about the British speedway authorities... Wouldn't it be a case that until team strengths were based on rider averages there was no need for the authorities to keep any stats ? Having said that, back in the 40's & 50's reserves had to move into the main body of the team if they scored at least 50% of the points available to them (I seem to recall reading somewhere). Wasn't Bryan Seery's stats ,initially at least, unofficial ? Just a couple of thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted October 6, 2020 Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, compost said: Wouldn't it be a case that until team strengths were based on rider averages there was no need for the authorities to keep any stats ? Having said that, back in the 40's & 50's reserves had to move into the main body of the team if they scored at least 50% of the points available to them (I seem to recall reading somewhere). Wasn't Bryan Seery's stats ,initially at least, unofficial ? Just a couple of thoughts. Hadn't really thought about it like that, but I suppose it's possible. I wonder if anyone has any old rules and documentation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted October 6, 2020 Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 Peter Jackson compiled complete averages for the years 1933-1957 (at least, as they are the one I have). They have all been converted to the common four ride average system we use today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest compost Posted October 7, 2020 Report Share Posted October 7, 2020 13 hours ago, norbold said: Peter Jackson compiled complete averages for the years 1933-1957 (at least, as they are the one I have). They have all been converted to the common four ride average system we use today. In order to compile a complete set of averages you need to have a complete set of results, so do you have any idea if such a set of results exists ? Do these averages exist for the second division (as for sure no complete set of results exists on the researcher website) ? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted October 7, 2020 Report Share Posted October 7, 2020 48 minutes ago, compost said: In order to compile a complete set of averages you need to have a complete set of results, so do you have any idea if such a set of results exists ? Do these averages exist for the second division (as for sure no complete set of results exists on the researcher website) ? Thanks As far as I can see, Peter has used a full set of results for 1933-1957. His averages are only First Division though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest compost Posted October 7, 2020 Report Share Posted October 7, 2020 1 minute ago, norbold said: As far as I can see, Peter has used a full set of results for 1933-1957. His averages are only First Division though. Thanks norbold. Shame about Second Division pre-war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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