LagutaRacingFan Posted October 3, 2020 Report Share Posted October 3, 2020 (edited) Fricke doesn't deserve a wild-card, he's been crap for most of the series. Emil and the Laguta brothers all deserve wildcards. I'd also like to see Lidsey, Kubera and Piotr Pawlicki in the series. Leszno are the best team in the world but only have 1 rider in the GP series. Edited October 3, 2020 by KeirStarmerFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Racer Posted October 3, 2020 Report Share Posted October 3, 2020 IMO 2021 wildcards Emil Artem Laguta Vaculik Fricke Anders Thomson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moomin man 76 Posted October 3, 2020 Report Share Posted October 3, 2020 1 hour ago, KeirStarmerFan said: Fricke doesn't deserve a wild-card, he's been crap for most of the series. Emil and the Laguta brothers all deserve wildcards. I'd also like to see Lidsey, Kubera and Piotr Pawlicki in the series. Leszno are the best team in the world but only have 1 rider in the GP series. There's no chance Greg Laguta will get a wildcard. Two Russians in the series already and when push comes to shove, he disappears e.g at the GP Challenge. I'd like Timo Lahti to get a wildcard, but know he won't. Still he has the same chance as Kubera and Piotr Pawlicki - zero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted October 3, 2020 Report Share Posted October 3, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, moomin man 76 said: There's no chance Greg Laguta will get a wildcard. Two Russians in the series already and when push comes to shove, he disappears e.g at the GP Challenge. I'd like Timo Lahti to get a wildcard, but know he won't. Still he has the same chance as Kubera and Piotr Pawlicki - zero. Russia's GDP on its own is higher than Poland, Sweden and Denmark's combined GDP. If the BSI are serious about cracking the Russian market then Grigory should get a wild card. Edited October 3, 2020 by KeirStarmerFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted October 3, 2020 Report Share Posted October 3, 2020 (edited) You have the top 6 (BZ, TW, FL, MJ, LM & JD) plus Lambert, Kasprzak, Berntzon & Zagar. 6 + 4 = 10. Sayfutindov has had a poor GP year but was in with a shout of title going into the last round of 2019 and top of the Ekstraliga averages. Artem Laguta can be unbeatable on his night, quickest rider in the world if he hits the front, 2nd in the Ekstraliga averages in a team that has seriously under performed. Fricke is young, was poor generally but won a round deserves another year. So it's basically 2 from Anders Thomsen (Danish Champion), Grigorij Laguta (6th in Ekstraliga averages, 3rd in SEC) or Martin Vaculik. Covid could play a huge part in this, if there is likely to be a Russian GP or a Danish GP then that might edge it for rider from that country. I gave up looking at the state of Covid infections around Europe once my last holiday was cancelled. Edited October 3, 2020 by Col Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teijahn Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 12 hours ago, iainb said: Was it Loktaev that blew it in the GP Challenge? For me it doesn't really matter what nationality he is, I think of rather see the 4th place from the challenge or Gleb than the likes of Dudek again I thought he'd made a semi (s) before? Could be wrong Fricke made 2 semis, turned 1 into a GP win, and missed the cut for three other semis by one point. He was poor R1 & R3, but has been a lot more solid overall than a number of comments in this forum would indicate. His less than great extraliga average may not help his chances of a WC but. The idea of new blood is wonderful, especially given that NKI, Lindbaek, and MM have proven not competitive, but there is little to suggest from the speedway year results that any of the young prospects or recycling options are likely to do better than this years top ten. Nikki on form, even without considering past exploits looks to me one of the better options for the 15th spot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbrussell Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 4 hours ago, KeirStarmerFan said: Fricke doesn't deserve a wild-card, he's been crap for most of the series. Emil and the Laguta brothers all deserve wildcards. I'd also like to see Lidsey, Kubera and Piotr Pawlicki in the series. Leszno are the best team in the world but only have 1 rider in the GP series. Piotr Pawlicki is very professional at falling off after a slight touch. I was quite impressed with the Latvian Rider Lebedevs in the swc a couple of years ago. What has he done lately since winning the SEC? On another note i would like to see riders in the GP field barred from entering the qualifying rounds held in the same season so they can't sneak back in through the back door for the next season. This would open the door for more riders on the way up rather than having riders in the series who rarely threaten to make the top 6 (formerly 8) but keep getting back in through the GP Challenge. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 GUT feeling ... Nicki Pedersen to join top 10, GP Challenge qualifiers and Lambert... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Eck Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said: GUT feeling ... Nicki Pedersen to join top 10, GP Challenge qualifiers and Lambert... I can’t see beyond top 10 - no one around to rival them. Too early for Lidsey, Kubera etc. For commercial reasons, the series needs a second Dane so Thomsen or Pedersen. It’s BSI’s last year so, will they go down the income maximising route and go with NP, or will they accept that he won’t be competitive at this level and go for Thomsen? Maybe Thomsen should get himself on the Monster gravy train because, regardless of what is said publicly, only a fool would think they won’t have an opportunity to give their view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 12 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said: GUT feeling ... Nicki Pedersen to join top 10, GP Challenge qualifiers and Lambert... Anders Thomsen for me instead of Nicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 15 hours ago, iwright71 said: Gleb is Polish at present which effectively rules him out ruled him out for this year, but he wasn't going to get a pick this year anyway, it remains to be seen what nationality he'll be next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, Wee Eck said: I can’t see beyond top 10 - no one around to rival them. Too early for Lidsey, Kubera etc. For commercial reasons, the series needs a second Dane so Thomsen or Pedersen. It’s BSI’s last year so, will they go down the income maximising route and go with NP, or will they accept that he won’t be competitive at this level and go for Thomsen? Maybe Thomsen should get himself on the Monster gravy train because, regardless of what is said publicly, only a fool would think they won’t have an opportunity to give their view. I'm inclined to agree with you but you have to ask yourself what was the reasoning behind changing to top 6 from top 8 if you're not going to include the likes of Lidsey, Chuggers, Holder, Loktaev etc. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, iainb said: I'm inclined to agree with you but you have to ask yourself what was the reasoning behind changing to top 6 from top 8 if you're not going to include the likes of Lidsey, Chuggers, Holder, Loktaev etc. It gives them more choices to make it better the following year. 2020 I think including for next year 7to 10 would be right, that leaves 1 to pick. However, could easily only 7 and 8 worthy of next year leaving 3 to pick. This year I don’t think there is 3 riders outside the current lot ready for a full season. Nicki P looking good for the 1 pick left, that might work in Freddie’s favour next year as NP could be a big spoiler. Edited October 4, 2020 by OveFundinFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 All of this does beg the question, why the number of automatic qualifiers was reduced from 8 to 6. Even when it was 8, it was usually the case that numbers 9 & 10 got a pick. With only 6 qualifiers, it makes it even more likely that nos. 7 & 8 are going to be two of those picks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 Like I just said, it gives more choice, and you just explained it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 (edited) To be honest you can’t really see any reason why the top 9 shouldn’t be included next season,they are still the best in the World at that level.New riders struggle to make an impact over the whole seriesIMO.This years Top 4 are still the most consistent in the World. Vaculik and Emil have been disappointing and lacking consistency this year and I personally think Madsen is struggling with his back problems and riding conservatively this season( doesn’t complain about it though) Zager,KK and Bertzon won’t add much to the line-up IMo.Lambert is much improved this year and is interesting. Difficult to pick Wildcards,but certainly won’t make any difference to Top End of the Championship.IMO. Edited October 4, 2020 by Fromafar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 How many times this year did the 2 semi's not include the top 9/10. Not many I wouldn't have thought 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moomin man 76 Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 13 hours ago, KeirStarmerFan said: Russia's GDP on its own is higher than Poland, Sweden and Denmark's combined GDP. If the BSI are serious about cracking the Russian market then Grigory should get a wild card. GDP is a measure of total output per country, so on account of size of population, Russia will have a higher GDP than Poland, Sweden and Denmark. So does China, but I can't see any calls for SGP in China. Since 98% of the Russian population doesn't know anything about speedway adding an extra Russian, who has never shown any interest in SGP is not going to make one iota of difference to interest levels in Russia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moomin man 76 Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 11 hours ago, gbrussell said: I was quite impressed with the Latvian Rider Lebedevs in the swc a couple of years ago. What has he done lately since winning the SEC? Sadly Andrejs Lebedevs hasn't done much this year, as a result of crashing into his own team mate (Robert Lambert) and breaking his leg, whilst riding for Rybnik. He missed the SEC (replaced by Timo Lahti) and GP Challenge through injury, so he won't be considered for a wild card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iand Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 1 hour ago, bruno said: How many times this year did the 2 semi's not include the top 9/10. Not many I wouldn't have thought Fricke who was 10th made 2 S/F, Zager,NKI and Chugonov each made 1. Emil and Zaculik who were 8th and 9th actually made 6 S/F each 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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