Welwyn Posted October 3, 2020 Report Share Posted October 3, 2020 Thought I would make a new thread as this discussion is crossing over two other threads. So obviously the top 6 isn't finalised. But I can't see anyone from Fricke upwards missing out. (Fricke may well have missed out before last night but basically sealed his WC by actually winning a GP) So that leaves: Zmarzlik Woffinden lindgren Janowski Madsen Doyle Vaculik Sayfutdinov A Laguta Fricke Lambert Zagar Berntzon Kasprzak So we basically have one spot, although having written it down, do both Artem and Emil get picks if they both finish outside the top 6? (Poland 3, GB 2/Sweden/Aus/Rus 2, Slovenia/Slovakia/Den 1) Have to say, it does basically means who is the best Dane? Would have to say Thomson as Danish Champion would be favourite. I reckon if he had made a semi in his two WC appearance he would be a shoe-in. Do we have a Danish rider breakdown of the Extraliga averages anywhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted October 3, 2020 Report Share Posted October 3, 2020 https://sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/pge-ekstraliga/statystyki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welwyn Posted October 3, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, racers and royals said: https://sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/pge-ekstraliga/statystyki Thanks, So we are basically looking at: Nicki Pedersen Mikkel Michelsen Anders Thomsen I would say seeing how Michelsen only got 30 points so far, then he probably doesn't get in. NP is the guy who has the best case to trump Thompson, especially as he pulled out of the Danish Championships after 2 rides plus he looked competitive in the SEC and finished sixth and only 1 point behind MM despite missing a meeting. Those averages also show how gutted Jack Holder would have been that Fricke won last night. Edited October 3, 2020 by Welwyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 3, 2020 Report Share Posted October 3, 2020 21 minutes ago, Welwyn said: Thought I would make a new thread as this discussion is crossing over two other threads. So obviously the top 6 isn't finalised. But I can't see anyone from Fricke upwards missing out. (Fricke may well have missed out before last night but basically sealed his WC by actually winning a GP) So that leaves: Zmarzlik Woffinden lindgren Janowski Madsen Doyle Vaculik Sayfutdinov A Laguta Fricke Lambert Zagar Berntzon Kasprzak So we basically have one spot, although having written it down, do both Artem and Emil get picks if they both finish outside the top 6? (Poland 3, GB 2/Sweden/Aus/Rus 2, Slovenia/Slovakia/Den 1) Have to say, it does basically means who is the best Dane? Would have to say Thomson as Danish Champion would be favourite. I reckon if he had made a semi in his two WC appearance he would be a shoe-in. Do we have a Danish rider breakdown of the Extraliga averages anywhere? Personally I'd like to see G Laguta instead of A, I'd even have Gleb ahead of A Laguta, maybe Lidsey instead of Fricke, Fricke as a choice would be a knee jerk choice based on last nights win, he's not shown much else during the series and didn't qualify from the Challenge and even Lindback & Kolodziej have wond GP's. Final spot... Nicki P for me, there's still life in the old dog yet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted October 3, 2020 Report Share Posted October 3, 2020 Fricke deserves it, he has looked solid all series in my opinion. Its only his first year and can only see him getting better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted October 3, 2020 Report Share Posted October 3, 2020 45 minutes ago, iainb said: Personally I'd like to see G Laguta instead of A, I'd even have Gleb ahead of A Laguta, maybe Lidsey instead of Fricke, Fricke as a choice would be a knee jerk choice based on last nights win, he's not shown much else during the series and didn't qualify from the Challenge and even Lindback & Kolodziej have wond GP's. Final spot... Nicki P for me, there's still life in the old dog yet Has to be Fricke ... Lidsey's day will come Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted October 3, 2020 Report Share Posted October 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Welwyn said: Thought I would make a new thread as this discussion is crossing over two other threads. So obviously the top 6 isn't finalised. But I can't see anyone from Fricke upwards missing out. (Fricke may well have missed out before last night but basically sealed his WC by actually winning a GP) So that leaves: Zmarzlik Woffinden lindgren Janowski Madsen Doyle Vaculik Sayfutdinov A Laguta Fricke Lambert Zagar Berntzon Kasprzak So we basically have one spot, although having written it down, do both Artem and Emil get picks if they both finish outside the top 6? (Poland 3, GB 2/Sweden/Aus/Rus 2, Slovenia/Slovakia/Den 1) Have to say, it does basically means who is the best Dane? Would have to say Thomson as Danish Champion would be favourite. I reckon if he had made a semi in his two WC appearance he would be a shoe-in. Do we have a Danish rider breakdown of the Extraliga averages anywhere? TWO Russians ... there will be a SGP in Togliatti ... Covid permitting. Artum has done okay. Still not sure his brother is bothered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 3, 2020 Report Share Posted October 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said: Has to be Fricke ... Lidsey's day will come I think Fricke will get another year, the pressure is certainly on him now though Just now, PHILIPRISING said: TWO Russians ... there will be a SGP in Togliatti ... Covid permitting. Artum has done okay. Still not sure his brother is bothered. Artem is bloody fast when in front, looks like a novice when he's behind though, If Greg ain't bothered it's Gleb for me... and it looks like there's a whole host of others coming in the pipeline, not many people have mentioned (was it?) Loktaev who all but qualified in the GP Challenge until he blew it. Russia look like they could be a dominant force in World Speedway if they could stop all the major events being held on Polish tracks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted October 3, 2020 Report Share Posted October 3, 2020 Loktaev’s not even Russian? And neither is Gleb anymore if we’re being picky... Don’t know what Polish tracks has to do with it? They’re all brought up on these Polish tracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 3, 2020 Report Share Posted October 3, 2020 3 hours ago, iainb said: Personally I'd like to see G Laguta instead of A, I'd even have Gleb ahead of A Laguta, maybe Lidsey instead of Fricke, Fricke as a choice would be a knee jerk choice based on last nights win, he's not shown much else during the series and didn't qualify from the Challenge and even Lindback & Kolodziej have wond GP's. Final spot... Nicki P for me, there's still life in the old dog yet Fricke has been OK in GP’s iMO. bit unlucky not to reach Semi’s before last night. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
customhouseregular Posted October 3, 2020 Report Share Posted October 3, 2020 If Fricke reproduces last night’s form tonight it would be hard to ignore him for next year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bavarian Posted October 3, 2020 Report Share Posted October 3, 2020 what about Dudek ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
customhouseregular Posted October 3, 2020 Report Share Posted October 3, 2020 Where do you start and finish with only 5 picks. One could make a case for 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler42 Posted October 3, 2020 Report Share Posted October 3, 2020 3 hours ago, PHILIPRISING said: Has to be Fricke ... Lidsey's day will come Why, before last night one semi final appearance. What if Anton wins tonight. Does that put him in the frame? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 3, 2020 Report Share Posted October 3, 2020 1 hour ago, allthegearbutnaeidea said: Loktaev’s not even Russian? And neither is Gleb anymore if we’re being picky... Don’t know what Polish tracks has to do with it? They’re all brought up on these Polish tracks. Was it Loktaev that blew it in the GP Challenge? For me it doesn't really matter what nationality he is, I think of rather see the 4th place from the challenge or Gleb than the likes of Dudek again 1 hour ago, Fromafar said: Fricke has been OK in GP’s iMO. bit unlucky not to reach Semi’s before last night. I thought he'd made a semi (s) before? Could be wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 3, 2020 Report Share Posted October 3, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, iainb said: Was it Loktaev that blew it in the GP Challenge? For me it doesn't really matter what nationality he is, I think of rather see the 4th place from the challenge or Gleb than the likes of Dudek again I thought he'd made a semi (s) before? Could be wrong Your right.Thanks.He also lost out on count back (if I’m right).He has been in the mix most of his races,unlike Lindback ,Dudek and Iversen who have been pretty woeful. It’s a tough ask in the GPs though. Edited October 3, 2020 by Fromafar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 3, 2020 Report Share Posted October 3, 2020 He qualified by right but Berntzon will struggle in GP.IMO. The system needs a shake up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwright71 Posted October 3, 2020 Report Share Posted October 3, 2020 8 hours ago, iainb said: Personally I'd like to see G Laguta instead of A, I'd even have Gleb ahead of A Laguta, maybe Lidsey instead of Fricke, Fricke as a choice would be a knee jerk choice based on last nights win, he's not shown much else during the series and didn't qualify from the Challenge and even Lindback & Kolodziej have wond GP's. Final spot... Nicki P for me, there's still life in the old dog yet Gleb is Polish at present which effectively rules him out, same reason as Dudek although Speedway Star keep banging on about his Monster Energy contacts ( I didn't think they had any input in the choice of wildcards ) so never say never. Rule of thumb says there will be 2 Swedes and 2 Danes in the series so we are effectively looking for 1 Dane as Welwyn says. Most posters on here are pleading for new blood in the series but still back the return of Nicki Pedersen . Nicki's form has improved this year in Poland but I think most want him back as he is " box office " or as Graeme Souness described himself " I sometime infringe the rules " .Nicki has had a great career in the GP but time to look forward Anders Thomson for me for his performance at Gorzow and being Danish champion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted October 3, 2020 Report Share Posted October 3, 2020 (edited) No way should a rider who doesn’t know if he’s Russian or Polish when it suits be considered for a W/C for me I wonder if he will be Russian again in 2 weeks. Edited October 3, 2020 by Crazy robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted October 3, 2020 Report Share Posted October 3, 2020 3 hours ago, iwright71 said: Gleb is Polish at present which effectively rules him out, same reason as Dudek although Speedway Star keep banging on about his Monster Energy contacts ( I didn't think they had any input in the choice of wildcards ) so never say never. Rule of thumb says there will be 2 Swedes and 2 Danes in the series so we are effectively looking for 1 Dane as Welwyn says. Most posters on here are pleading for new blood in the series but still back the return of Nicki Pedersen . Nicki's form has improved this year in Poland but I think most want him back as he is " box office " or as Graeme Souness described himself " I sometime infringe the rules " .Nicki has had a great career in the GP but time to look forward Anders Thomson for me for his performance at Gorzow and being Danish champion. Anders Thomson will be picked for commercial reasons but outside the gps there isn't many riders better than him. Gregory Laguta has got no chance now as they will never give 3 Russian picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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