iris123 Posted October 8, 2020 Report Share Posted October 8, 2020 On 10/7/2020 at 2:29 PM, BL65 said: 1929: Jack Parker (Coventry - Southern League) 10.76, Arthur Jervis (Manchester White City - Northern League) 10.00. 1930: Ginger Lees (Liverpool - Northern) 10.89, Vic Huxley (Harringay - Southern) 10.55. (Jack Parker, Coventry, 10.34). 1931: Eric Langton (Belle Vue - Northern) 11.28, Dick Case (Wimbledon - Southern) 10.14. (Jack Parker, Southampton, 10.02). 1932: Dick Case (Wimbledon - National League) 10.42. (Jack Parker, Clapton, 8.80 - Southampton team moved to Clapton). Guess you can take what you want out of these figures, but one thing at least, the top man from 1930 in the North, Ginger Lees, basically missed the 1929 season, as he was riding in Hamburg and sometimes Copenhagen. Think he basically beat all comers including Jervis. The only rider to really get the better of him was Sprouts Elder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted October 8, 2020 Report Share Posted October 8, 2020 2 hours ago, iris123 said: Guess you can take what you want out of these figures, but one thing at least, the top man from 1930 in the North, Ginger Lees, basically missed the 1929 season, as he was riding in Hamburg and sometimes Copenhagen. Think he basically beat all comers including Jervis. The only rider to really get the better of him was Sprouts Elder Ginger Lees rode for Burnley in 1929, but they packed up in June, after (I think) only five meetings. With no English track, he took himself off to ride, as you say, in Germany and Denmark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted October 8, 2020 Report Share Posted October 8, 2020 2 hours ago, norbold said: Ginger Lees rode for Burnley in 1929, but they packed up in June, after (I think) only five meetings. With no English track, he took himself off to ride, as you say, in Germany and Denmark. As you say, Burnley only rode in five league matches. The last meeting at Burnley was an open meeting on July 7. The track closed down for good after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted November 19, 2020 Report Share Posted November 19, 2020 Rickardsson certainly the best ive seen in my era (1999-2020). Superb. Nicki P , Crump, Woffy and Hancock would complete my top 5 . Before anyone starts, thats my era. Not counting anyone before hand. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattB Posted November 23, 2020 Report Share Posted November 23, 2020 On 10/6/2020 at 10:49 PM, Terry said: Exactly. I consider Barry Thomas to be the greatest rider ever Tony Rickardsson would be number 1 for me for two reasons. He was a whisker away from winning 5 consecutive world titles, (ok technically he finished 3rd in 2000, but does anybody honestly believe that he wouldn't have won the final if Mark Loram hadn't got the second place he needed in the consolation final?) Secondly for his astonishing performance in the 2005 series. 6 wins, one 2nd and a 3rd from 9 rounds. In league racing however, it's got to be Hans Nielsen. He was just a points machine! Absolutely. I remember that final GP in 2000 vividly, and Rickardsson was absolutely superb. He was never headed before the final and I've no doubt he'd have won that final if he'd needed to - he was simply deflated after Loram had sealed the total. It was a terrific achievement from Loram to win a title during a period when Rickardsson was at his absolute peak 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted November 24, 2020 Report Share Posted November 24, 2020 8 hours ago, MattB said: Absolutely. I remember that final GP in 2000 vividly, and Rickardsson was absolutely superb. He was never headed before the final and I've no doubt he'd have won that final if he'd needed to - he was simply deflated after Loram had sealed the total. It was a terrific achievement from Loram to win a title during a period when Rickardsson was at his absolute peak. Forget the final GP; Rickardsson lost the World Championship much earlier in the season. Actually, he was robbed by one of the worst refereeing decisions in World Championship history. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattB Posted November 24, 2020 Report Share Posted November 24, 2020 16 hours ago, chunky said: Forget the final GP; Rickardsson lost the World Championship much earlier in the season. Actually, he was robbed by one of the worst refereeing decisions in World Championship history. Yea was an awful decision in Sweden. Rickardsson wasn't quite at his best that year, though its to his credit he got as close as he did. He really raised the bar in terms of how riders presented themselves. I can remember him turning up at Monmore Green in his enormous motor home (much to Chris Van Straaten's disapproval apparently!) when he was riding for Poole. Such a shame that he was tempted to race on in 2006 when his heart probably wasn't in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted November 24, 2020 Report Share Posted November 24, 2020 31 minutes ago, MattB said: Yea was an awful decision in Sweden. Rickardsson wasn't quite at his best that year, though its to his credit he got as close as he did. He really raised the bar in terms of how riders presented themselves. I can remember him turning up at Monmore Green in his enormous motor home (much to Chris Van Straaten's disapproval apparently!) when he was riding for Poole. Such a shame that he was tempted to race on in 2006 when his heart probably wasn't in it. Yes he didn't do himself any favours by turning out for Oxford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryW Posted November 24, 2020 Report Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 hour ago, steve roberts said: Yes he didn't do himself any favours by turning out for Oxford. I'm sure that there is a story there which I don't know, but I find it hard to believe that any problem was entirely on his side...He was far too good and professional for it all to be on his side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 (edited) On 11/24/2020 at 11:15 PM, HenryW said: I'm sure that there is a story there which I don't know, but I find it hard to believe that any problem was entirely on his side...He was far too good and professional for it all to be on his side. He was signed on a six week contract but it was decided to release him after only four weeks and was replaced by Todd Wiltshire. Apparently sources 'suggest' that he wasn't wholly commited to the Oxford cause during his short time spent there? Personally I never really rated him as a 'team player' in the same way as Mauger, Olsen, Moore & Nielsen to name a few. However the Oxford Promoter at the the time didn't exactly enamour himself with Todd Wiltshire in an interview with Todd some years ago! Edited December 4, 2020 by steve roberts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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