Tape infringement

[Super Blue]

Admittedly I've not been rediculously close to a moto x starting gate but it just looked like it disappeared into the ground from where I stood, if not then my mistake. 

[OveFundinFan]

10 minutes ago, Super Blue said:

Admittedly I've not been rediculously close to a moto x starting gate but it just looked like it disappeared into the ground from where I stood, if not then my mistake. 

The start area for Moto x, the gate does drop “flush”  with the start block which is usually concrete. Thing is with Moto x is that per race it is only used once ie it’s part of the course not used for the following laps, unlike speedway. Using the same design on a speedway track probably would cause problems due to a) concrete start block b) metal grid may not give a flush surface  (some bikes are into some sort of slide around the start area at some tracks.)

[Super Blue]

It was just an idea and I did suggest maybe something like what moto x use. Was trying to come up with a possible plan to stop the jumping starters with the way the rules are at the moment. 

With the way it is though imo they should let everything go unless you touch the tapes, if you do you're out! 

[chunky]

3 hours ago, OveFundinFan said:

The start area for Moto x, the gate does drop “flush”  with the start block which is usually concrete. Thing is with Moto x is that per race it is only used once ie it’s part of the course not used for the following laps, unlike speedway. Using the same design on a speedway track probably would cause problems due to a) concrete start block b) metal grid may not give a flush surface  (some bikes are into some sort of slide around the start area at some tracks.)

Didn't they actually try a concrete start block at Canterbury in 1969/70?

Edited September 21, 2020 by chunky

[BangerBoy]

31 minutes ago, chunky said:

Didn't they actually try a concrete start block at Canterbury in 196970?

Why are we discussing this 

Lets make it simple touch tapes your out

It worked years ago I say bring it back

 

[Fromafar]

11 hours ago, bigcatdiary said:

Question - If Madsen is such an exceptional gater (no argument from me) why does he continually jump the starts.

For the reason in the quote you asked the Question about.

[martinmauger]

2 hours ago, Super Blue said:

It was just an idea and I did suggest maybe something like what moto x use. Was trying to come up with a possible plan to stop the jumping starters with the way the rules are at the moment. 

With the way it is though imo they should let everything go unless you touch the tapes, if you do you're out! 

This ^^, straight back to the start and keep that pit gate shut unless a rider has a potenially dangerous issue with the bike....

[Technik]

We have all heard what our so called experts say in their Sky commentrey. But the one thing they have all negleted to spot is that the rules state that all riders must line up a maximum of 10CMs from the tapes & remain stationary until the tapes are released & there is only one person in the stadium that knows when the tapes are released & that is the Referee.

Transponders would be a good idea for start line discipline. But like in F1 Moto GP & Drag racing all competitors would be required to line up at a staging point prior to the tapes are released, This could be difficult as in the other sports the cars/bikes are staggered or within a controlled lane.

Drop gates as used in Moto X could not be used as the race has to go over the start line every lap & it would cause delays as the gates would need to be cleaned after each start. You also have to factor in the tractors & the equipment they pull going over them.

The thing's that really annoy me is allowing the race to go on to its finish then warning a rider that moved at the start. But worst of all it's Messers Tatum & Pearson saying a rider has not gained an advantage, The whole idea of the sport is to accumulate as many points as you can so if a rider moves at the start & is in a point scoring position he has gained an advantage