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4 minutes ago, BL65 said:

In September 1966 Rick France, Col Cottrell and Jim Lightfoot scored 12 point maximums for Coventry against a Swindon team missing Barry Briggs.  Nigel Boocock scored 8 and 4 bonus, finishing behind Cottrell three times and Lightfoot.  They almost repeated the feat the following week in the Midland Cup against Wolverhampton, the only difference being that France fell in one race and only scored 9.

Swindon lost their 3 year unbeaten home record in 68 , no Briggo, Mauger and Olsen running riot in a 39-38 Newcastle win at The Abbey.

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4 minutes ago, BL65 said:

In September 1966 Rick France, Col Cottrell and Jim Lightfoot scored 12 point maximums for Coventry against a Swindon team missing Barry Briggs.  Nigel Boocock scored 8 and 4 bonus, finishing behind Cottrell three times and Lightfoot.  They almost repeated the feat the following week in the Midland Cup against Wolverhampton, the only difference being that France fell in one race and only scored 9.

That Glasgow - Long Eaton match you mentioned; both Bruce Ovenden and Graham Coombes score 8 + 4! I'm sure THAT is the only time that's happened - three 12's and two 8 + 4...

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Try these examples from Newcastle 1983. Oxford away- Joe Owen and Rod Hunter scored 20 points each (both paid 21 maximums) in a 49-47 win, at Weymouth KOC meeting, Rod Hunter with a 21 point maximum and Joe Owen 14 points from a 41-55 loss, or at Exeter Joe Owen 19 and Rod Hunter 17 points in a 42-54 loss.

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26th April 1979 at Oxford, Glasgow's Derek Richardson 12 & Steve Lawson 10 out of 26 (13 heats).

27th June 1981 at Glasgow, Crayford's Alan Sage 10 & Berry Thomas 6 out of 20 (13 heats).

11th September 1982 at Berwick, Kenny McKinna 20 (+1) & Steve Lawson 17 out of 42 (16 heats).

Not quite on topic, but close enough I think, does Steve Lawson's record of 16 out of 23 at Arena in 1985 still stand as highest percentage of a team's total by one rider?

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41 minutes ago, steve19620 said:

Try these examples from Newcastle 1983. Oxford away- Joe Owen and Rod Hunter scored 20 points each (both paid 21 maximums) in a 49-47 win, at Weymouth KOC meeting, Rod Hunter with a 21 point maximum and Joe Owen 14 points from a 41-55 loss, or at Exeter Joe Owen 19 and Rod Hunter 17 points in a 42-54 loss.

Remember it well. Did the same duo achieve something similar at Mildenhall and Canterbury during the same season...viewed both with my cousin who was a "Diamonds" fan and we took in both matches.

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42 minutes ago, daveallan81 said:

Not quite on topic, but close enough I think, does Steve Lawson's record of 16 out of 23 at Arena in 1985 still stand as highest percentage of a team's total by one rider?

Excellent!

So we started with Nigel Boocock and 16 from 24.

Now Steve Lawson has it with 16 from 23.

Any advance on that?

I know that on their travels, Steve really was a "one-man team" on many occasions.

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1 minute ago, chunky said:

Excellent!

So we started with Nigel Boocock and 16 from 24.

Now Steve Lawson has it with 16 from 23.

Any advance on that?

I know that on their travels, Steve really was a "one-man team" on many occasions.

Glasgow scored 439 NL points away from home in 1985 - Lawson scored 201 of them. Yeh we kinda relied on him somewhat :D

One for the three riders list: 28/29 25th July 1984 Long Eaton 49 Glasgow 29 (Lawson 13, Collins 9, Reid 6)

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Recall Jurica Pavlic, a one hit wonder,.and Sir Leigh Adams scoring 21 and 18 I think? as Swindon won at Arena Essex. Adams carried Swindon at times, as Ashby, Crump and Briggo did on occasions.

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24 minutes ago, daveallan81 said:

Glasgow scored 439 NL points away from home in 1985 - Lawson scored 201 of them. Yeh we kinda relied on him somewhat :D

That's ridiculous! Says it all, really...

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2 hours ago, chunky said:

That Glasgow - Long Eaton match you mentioned; both Bruce Ovenden and Graham Coombes score 8 + 4! I'm sure THAT is the only time that's happened - three 12's and two 8 + 4...

You are probably correct.  Another meeting with three riders completing 12 point maximums was Edinburgh v Sheffield in September 1967 (George Hunter, Doug Templeton and Bert Harkins for the home team).

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A few more:
Nigel Boocock 15, Norman Hunter 13 and Col Cottrell 5 scored 33 out of the 34 points Coventry managed at Wimbledon in 1966.
Ove Fundin 14, Tommy Roper 10 and Cyril Maidment 9 scored 33 out of the 34 points Belle Vue totalled at home to West Ham in 1967.

Plus, a meeting I attended, Cradley Heath v Belle Vue in 1968, when Tommy Roper (16) and Cyril Maidment (14) scored 30 out of 33 for the visitors.  Sandor Levai scored the other 3, so between them these three scored all of their team's points.  Belle Vue were using R/R for Soren Sjosten so there were three non-scoring riders, Eyre, Powell and Pusey.

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19 hours ago, chunky said:

n a similar subject, I have two associated questions:

1) Have THREE members of a team ever scored a full 12-point maximum in the same match? Obviously, because of the format, I know it couldn't be the three regular heat-leader positions. And no, I am not including the standard 18-heat formula either. 

 

For Wembley vs New Cross in the League on the 23rd May 1946 Tommy Price, George Wilks and Bill Kitchen all scored 4-12

For Bristol vs Fleetwood in the League on the 6th May 1949 Fred Tuck, Billy Hole & Eric Salmon also all scored 4-12.

Bristol in 1949 had multiple cases of at least 3 unbeaten riders in a meeting but I didn't think these came within the questions remit as they were not cases of 4-12.

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I know this doesn't match the criteria but for heavy scoring how about Norwich v USSR Tourists in 1964.  For Norwich, Fundin 18, Nygren 17, Hedge 9 and Bales 8 scored 52 out of a total of 53, with the other three riders contributing one point between them from 14 rides. The visitors were double-booked and so only had four riders available, two others taking part in a best pairs at Swindon.  They scored 55 and still won, using an improvised form of rider replacement, each taking 9 rides in an 18 heat match - Plechanov 19, Kurilenko 16, Kadirov 11, Chekranov 9.

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27 minutes ago, BL65 said:

I know this doesn't match the criteria but for heavy scoring how about Norwich v USSR Tourists in 1964.  For Norwich, Fundin 18, Nygren 17, Hedge 9 and Bales 8 scored 52 out of a total of 53, with the other three riders contributing one point between them from 14 rides. The visitors were double-booked and so only had four riders available, two others taking part in a best pairs at Swindon.  They scored 55 and still won, using an improvised form of rider replacement, each taking 9 rides in an 18 heat match - Plechanov 19, Kurilenko 16, Kadirov 11, Chekranov 9.

WOW - Fundin and Nygren against Plechanov and Kurilenko. Four world class riders who seldom rode against each other. It must have been a privilege to watch the action.

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43 minutes ago, lucifer sam said:

Best winning unbalanced performance:

Oxford 47 Newcastle 49 from 1983

Both Rod Hunter and Joe Owen scored 20+1 for Newcastle - two riders scoring 40 out of 49 for a winning side!  Also, unless anyone can find evidence to the contrary, the only time two seven-ride paid maximums were scored in the same meeting!

two nights before rod hunter 21pt maximum joe owen 14(including 1 fall) 35 out of 41 in a knock out cup defeat 55-41 at weymouth.martin scarsibrick scored 5 out of the other 6.

a week later joe owen 19 rod hunter 17 in a 54-42 defeat at Exeter, alan emerson scored 4 out of the other 6.

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14 minutes ago, Tracy Bird said:

two nights before rod hunter 21pt maximum joe owen 14(including 1 fall) 35 out of 41 in a knock out cup defeat 55-41 at weymouth.martin scarsibrick scored 5 out of the other 6.

a week later joe owen 19 rod hunter 17 in a 54-42 defeat at Exeter, alan emerson scored 4 out of the other 6.

The other two are still unbalanced - but the Oxford win is impressive because it's unbalanced and they still managed to win!

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