racers and royals Posted September 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 7 minutes ago, berniev123 said: Thanks for the answer Aceslider but the SGB/SGP site have this: Bartosz Zmarzlik 20, Fredrik Lindgren 18, Jason Doyle 16, Tai Woffinden 14 and that is why I asked. Give it 2 mins and it will be correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 Just now, PHILIPRISING said: IT has been changed now Remember Phil, if it's on the internet, it MUST be true! Doubly so if it's speedway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Mr. Clemens said: No don't think that at all sorry about that The whole idea - particularly when items of sporting equipment (motorised or otherwise) - is to be BETTER than your opponents. You should just stay within the rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Clemens Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 Just now, chunky said: The whole idea - particularly when items of sporting equipment (motorised or otherwise) - is to be BETTER than your opponents. You should just stay within the rules. correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 Just now, Mr. Clemens said: correct And unfortunately - particularly when it comes to motorsport - one person will always find a way to make it go quicker... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, chunky said: Remember Phil, if it's on the internet, it MUST be true! Doubly so if it's speedway... And once it's out there, it's the truth until the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 15 minutes ago, racers and royals said: Just an afterthought - wasn`t it a pleasure to have Marcelina asking sensible questions this weekend- it would have been doubly pleasurable if we could have seen her as well It's a bloke 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 Just now, f-s-p said: And once it's out there, it's the truth until the end. EVEN IF IT IS PROVEN OTHERWISE!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 Just now, False dawn said: It's a bloke Well, she's got a deeper voice than Zmarzlik... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 And all this discussion about who got what championship points, way after the end of the meeting as per last night, I find slightly amusing. Wouldn't it be easier to just award points according to where you finish in a race? 3 for first, 2 for second and 1 for third might work. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aceslider Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 1 minute ago, False dawn said: And all this discussion about who got what championship points, way after the end of the meeting as per last night, I find slightly amusing. Wouldn't it be easier to just award points according to where you finish in a race? 3 for first, 2 for second and 1 for third might work. When you put in that context, and given that SCB reported incorrect figures (suggesting that even they are confused), I think you have a point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Aceslider said: When you put in that context, and given that SCB reported incorrect figures (suggesting that even they are confused), I think you have a point I'd go further. Your total race points would count towards the world championship and your finishing position in each GP final would only determine your finishing position in that GP. Does anyone have a sense of déjà vu? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 11 minutes ago, chunky said: And unfortunately - particularly when it comes to motorsport - one person will always find a way to make it go quicker... AND as long as that is legitimate it will always happen. What happens on the track is only a part of any motorsport and that includes speedway. But, as has already been pointed out, the secret is getting both the machine (bike or car) in perfect harmony with the driver or rider. Hamilton and Bottas both drive Mercedes cars but they are very different and what works for one wouldn't work for the other. Otherwise they would be identical. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 1 minute ago, PHILIPRISING said: AND as long as that is legitimate it will always happen. What happens on the track is only a part of any motorsport and that includes speedway. But, as has already been pointed out, the secret is getting both the machine (bike or car) in perfect harmony with the driver or rider. Hamilton and Bottas both drive Mercedes cars but they are very different and what works for one wouldn't work for the other. Otherwise they would be identical. Good point. But bottom line, is there anyone out there who can deny BZ the no.1 ranking in the world? Today, anyway? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hacksaw Jim Duggan Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 38 minutes ago, mikebv said: So he 'cheats' time, and time, and time, and time, again...? For two years? And he hasn't been tested and found out? The unique thing about Speedway is that it takes place on all shapes and sizes of tracks, and it also takes place on tracks with differing levels of grip/slickness etc. All of which will impact a bikes characteristics very acutely... Meaning a 'too fast bike' is no use.. You then have the completely random riding order which may favour certain gates given the track grading schedule.. You then have the weather which can influence many a meeting dependant on your gates when the adverse weather strikes... Yet, within all these variables Zmarzlik is still 100% head and shoulders the best on the planet.. Maybe, (therefore), he is just very, very good....? And also maybe we should just sit back, relax, and enjoy watching a potential 'great' at work.. Him and Woffy are truly a couple of all time greats whose races are (cliche alert), always worth the admission alone.. Just enjoy the unique spectacle.. Where Did i say he cheats your “enjoy the spectacle comment” is redundant to me I don’t think like you, you accept things blindly . I find that way of life dull and that of someone not wanting to learn and challenge that’s not me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 Just now, False dawn said: Good point. But bottom line, is there anyone out there who can deny BZ the no.1 ranking in the world? Today, anyway? PROBABLY not but that is down to Bartosz and not simply his equipment 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hacksaw Jim Duggan Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 59 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said: NEVER said that nobody cheats at sport. List is as long as your arm. And no doubt there has been cheating in speedway and maybe still is in on occasions in domestic racing. But the safeguards at the highest level, the World Championship, are stringent and if riders thought another was cheating they would not be slow in coming forward. Some of Woffindens comments though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 1 minute ago, PHILIPRISING said: PROBABLY not but that is down to Bartosz and not simply his equipment Absolutely. I can remeber but a few riders in the past 50 years that are so exciting to watch. Particularly his all action style. I'm sure I can think of a few but Bobby Ott springs to mind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarkens Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 Zmarzlik generates speed in a similar fashion to Gollob. He's a true great who has track craft. Best rider in the world. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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