racers and royals Posted September 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 On 9/19/2020 at 8:45 PM, berniev123 said: Thanks for the answer Aceslider but the SGB/SGP site have this: Bartosz Zmarzlik 20, Fredrik Lindgren 18, Jason Doyle 16, Tai Woffinden 14 and that is why I asked. Expand Give it 2 mins and it will be correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 On 9/19/2020 at 8:51 PM, PHILIPRISING said: IT has been changed now Expand Remember Phil, if it's on the internet, it MUST be true! Doubly so if it's speedway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 On 9/19/2020 at 8:52 PM, Mr. Clemens said: No don't think that at all sorry about that Expand The whole idea - particularly when items of sporting equipment (motorised or otherwise) - is to be BETTER than your opponents. You should just stay within the rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Clemens Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 On 9/19/2020 at 8:55 PM, chunky said: The whole idea - particularly when items of sporting equipment (motorised or otherwise) - is to be BETTER than your opponents. You should just stay within the rules. Expand correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 On 9/19/2020 at 8:56 PM, Mr. Clemens said: correct Expand And unfortunately - particularly when it comes to motorsport - one person will always find a way to make it go quicker... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 On 9/19/2020 at 8:53 PM, chunky said: Remember Phil, if it's on the internet, it MUST be true! Doubly so if it's speedway... Expand And once it's out there, it's the truth until the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 On 9/19/2020 at 8:43 PM, racers and royals said: Just an afterthought - wasn`t it a pleasure to have Marcelina asking sensible questions this weekend- it would have been doubly pleasurable if we could have seen her as well Expand It's a bloke 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 On 9/19/2020 at 8:59 PM, f-s-p said: And once it's out there, it's the truth until the end. Expand EVEN IF IT IS PROVEN OTHERWISE!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 On 9/19/2020 at 8:59 PM, False dawn said: It's a bloke Expand Well, she's got a deeper voice than Zmarzlik... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 And all this discussion about who got what championship points, way after the end of the meeting as per last night, I find slightly amusing. Wouldn't it be easier to just award points according to where you finish in a race? 3 for first, 2 for second and 1 for third might work. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aceslider Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 On 9/19/2020 at 9:02 PM, False dawn said: And all this discussion about who got what championship points, way after the end of the meeting as per last night, I find slightly amusing. Wouldn't it be easier to just award points according to where you finish in a race? 3 for first, 2 for second and 1 for third might work. Expand When you put in that context, and given that SCB reported incorrect figures (suggesting that even they are confused), I think you have a point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 On 9/19/2020 at 9:05 PM, Aceslider said: When you put in that context, and given that SCB reported incorrect figures (suggesting that even they are confused), I think you have a point Expand I'd go further. Your total race points would count towards the world championship and your finishing position in each GP final would only determine your finishing position in that GP. Does anyone have a sense of déjà vu? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 On 9/19/2020 at 8:58 PM, chunky said: And unfortunately - particularly when it comes to motorsport - one person will always find a way to make it go quicker... Expand AND as long as that is legitimate it will always happen. What happens on the track is only a part of any motorsport and that includes speedway. But, as has already been pointed out, the secret is getting both the machine (bike or car) in perfect harmony with the driver or rider. Hamilton and Bottas both drive Mercedes cars but they are very different and what works for one wouldn't work for the other. Otherwise they would be identical. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 On 9/19/2020 at 9:14 PM, PHILIPRISING said: AND as long as that is legitimate it will always happen. What happens on the track is only a part of any motorsport and that includes speedway. But, as has already been pointed out, the secret is getting both the machine (bike or car) in perfect harmony with the driver or rider. Hamilton and Bottas both drive Mercedes cars but they are very different and what works for one wouldn't work for the other. Otherwise they would be identical. Expand Good point. But bottom line, is there anyone out there who can deny BZ the no.1 ranking in the world? Today, anyway? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hacksaw Jim Duggan Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 On 9/19/2020 at 8:37 PM, mikebv said: So he 'cheats' time, and time, and time, and time, again...? For two years? And he hasn't been tested and found out? The unique thing about Speedway is that it takes place on all shapes and sizes of tracks, and it also takes place on tracks with differing levels of grip/slickness etc. All of which will impact a bikes characteristics very acutely... Meaning a 'too fast bike' is no use.. You then have the completely random riding order which may favour certain gates given the track grading schedule.. You then have the weather which can influence many a meeting dependant on your gates when the adverse weather strikes... Yet, within all these variables Zmarzlik is still 100% head and shoulders the best on the planet.. Maybe, (therefore), he is just very, very good....? And also maybe we should just sit back, relax, and enjoy watching a potential 'great' at work.. Him and Woffy are truly a couple of all time greats whose races are (cliche alert), always worth the admission alone.. Just enjoy the unique spectacle.. Expand Where Did i say he cheats your “enjoy the spectacle comment” is redundant to me I don’t think like you, you accept things blindly . I find that way of life dull and that of someone not wanting to learn and challenge that’s not me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 On 9/19/2020 at 9:17 PM, False dawn said: Good point. But bottom line, is there anyone out there who can deny BZ the no.1 ranking in the world? Today, anyway? Expand PROBABLY not but that is down to Bartosz and not simply his equipment 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hacksaw Jim Duggan Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 On 9/19/2020 at 8:20 PM, PHILIPRISING said: NEVER said that nobody cheats at sport. List is as long as your arm. And no doubt there has been cheating in speedway and maybe still is in on occasions in domestic racing. But the safeguards at the highest level, the World Championship, are stringent and if riders thought another was cheating they would not be slow in coming forward. Expand Some of Woffindens comments though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 On 9/19/2020 at 9:18 PM, PHILIPRISING said: PROBABLY not but that is down to Bartosz and not simply his equipment Expand Absolutely. I can remeber but a few riders in the past 50 years that are so exciting to watch. Particularly his all action style. I'm sure I can think of a few but Bobby Ott springs to mind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LagutaRacingFan Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 Zmarzlik generates speed in a similar fashion to Gollob. He's a true great who has track craft. Best rider in the world. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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