False dawn Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 What about poor old Vaclav Milik. He managed to finish 17th out 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 I’m afraid I have to agree with Scott Nichols over starting procedures.They are virtually having to show them in slow motion at times to see if it was a roller.Unless they touch the tapes they should let it go. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 Just now, False dawn said: What about poor old Vaclav Milik. He managed to finish 17th out 16 He has lost the plot these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 Maybe not so simple, because the official website states: Should a rider be excluded or fail to finish their semi-final, they will be ranked lower than a third or fourth finisher who does complete their race. If both third or fourth-placed stars fail to finish, they will be ranked according to how many race points they scored in the heats. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Fromafar said: I’m afraid I have to agree with Scott Nichols over starting procedures.They are virtually having to show them in slow motion at times to see if it was a roller.Unless they touch the tapes they should let it go. Be careful what you wish for. If anticipating the tapes was allowed, more riders (all?) would be at it. Then you'd need super slomo to see who touched the tapes first! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolskiZuzel Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 25 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: (...). Add this year that it is heavily weighted towards Polish riders and he should romp it. I strongly disagree with your note that "this year that it is heavily weighted towards Polish riders" Anybody who is somebody in world speedway rides day in and day out in the Polish League. Tai Woffinden has been Wroclaw riders for years more than I can remember. So is the case with any foreign riders. How therefore you, or anybody else, can claim that this year is heavily weighted toward Polish riders. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 Hold on, let me quote the whole thing, where the third paragraph seems to contradict the first two paragraphs: Reaching the semi-final ensures a rider will go home with at least nine points. The third-placed semi-finalist who scores the most race points in their five heats will earn 12, with the other third finisher awarded 11. The fourth-placed semi-finalist who scored the most points in the heats will receive 10, with the other fourth finisher receiving nine. Should a rider be excluded or fail to finish their semi-final, they will be ranked lower than a third or fourth finisher who does complete their race. If both third or fourth-placed stars fail to finish, they will be ranked according to how many race points they scored in the heats. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 (edited) Polish riders riding on Polish tracks in front of Polish fans. Heavily weighted in their favour. Edited September 18, 2020 by Steve Shovlar 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 Just now, False dawn said: Be careful what you wish for. If anticipating the tapes was allowed, more riders (all?) would be at it. Then you'd need super slomo to see who touched the tapes first! At least they have got super slo -no.y Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 1 minute ago, lucifer sam said: Maybe not so simple, because the official website states: Should a rider be excluded or fail to finish their semi-final, they will be ranked lower than a third or fourth finisher who does complete their race. If both third or fourth-placed stars fail to finish, they will be ranked according to how many race points they scored in the heats. That only sorts out two riders in the same semi. It seems that an exclusion from one semi where only 3 riders are lining up, trumps a 4th place finish in the other semi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, lucifer sam said: Maybe not so simple, because the official website states: Should a rider be excluded or fail to finish their semi-final, they will be ranked lower than a third or fourth finisher who does complete their race. If both third or fourth-placed stars fail to finish, they will be ranked according to how many race points they scored in the heats. Going by that statement, then, the results & positions should be amended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 Just now, Steve Shovlar said: Polish riders riding on Polish tracks in front of Polish fans. They all ride Poland ,you know fine well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellevueace Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 47 minutes ago, Mark said: I know the argument is about Prague being a nice city to visit but there must be other nice places in Europe with better tracks than this. Dire meeting with riders jumping as they know they can't pass and one gate yards better than the rest. The riders cant enjoy this GP and the real fans don't either. Prague is a nice city to visit but its even better when you know you dont have to sit through three hours of boredom, best to visit when theres no GP, then have a speedway weekend at a GP staged on a decent race track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zlata prilba Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 Remind me not to go to another GP again as I get the feeling fans are getting short changed now with these exclusion rules I know rules are rules but I want to see 4 riders battle it out in a semi final not 2 riders ref may aswell voided the semi final and just put Zmarzlik and Wuffy in the final 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, IronScorpion said: Going by that statement, then, the results & positions should be amended. I then looked at the previous two paragraphs, and I'm less sure now. I'm waiting to see what the FIM put out tonight Edited September 18, 2020 by lucifer sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellevueace Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 47 minutes ago, r8gdp said: Hey Sheffield a beautiful city bring the gp here I am on the doorstep lol The real ale pubs around Kelham Island make it a winner for me.:) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolskiZuzel Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Steve Shovlar said: Polish riders riding on Polish tracks in front of Polish fans. Heavily weighted in their favour. Polish tracks ? ... they are Polish only by name and in reality the same for any rider, especially for Tai You're entitled to your own opinion, in the same way as I am to mine. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 What a truly shocking GP., the racing was almost non existent with most races boring strung out follow the leader crap. This venue has for years has produced utterly crap racing and it’s clear the people preparing it haven’t got a clue. The answer to riders trying to anticipate starts, which to be fair affected most of the field tonight is to exclude anyone moving before the tapes are released, I dare say a few early exclusions would solve the problem as riders would (hopefully) learn very quickly. It would be harsh as Tatum states but I do think it would solve this annoying problem. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Fromafar said: They all ride Poland ,you know fine well. Nothing to do with it. Home advantage is strong and with thousands of Polish fans it gives Polish riders an advantage. It’s the same in all sports. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Steve Shovlar said: Nothing to do with it. Home advantage is strong and with thousands of Polish fans it gives Polish riders an advantage. It’s the same in all sports. That's why Greg always felt at home in Cardiff. I'll get my coat. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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