chunky Posted September 14, 2020 Report Share Posted September 14, 2020 2 hours ago, spiegal said: Lets sincerely hope that you are not unfortunate enough to get infected...if you are...then can we all assume that you will not bother the NHS nor any medical practitioner, nor take up a bed, instead rely totally on your own beliefs and confidence ??..In that case I would stand corrected Should BWitcher get infected by COVID-19, then no, I would not expect him to need any treatment (certainly nothing out of the ordinary), and certainly not need a hospital bed. Sadly, with your medical history, James, you may be more at risk. Before you say anything, I do not consider that I am "at risk", but my wife (who has several underlying health conditions, including a compromised immune system), would be. The trouble is that you seem to believe the blanket panic that has continued to spread. As Mark said, increased testing has increased the number of confirmed infections, but for the vast majority - who are relatively healthy, and not over 80 - it is not a serious issue. I have lost a couple of friends to it, and know several others who have been infected, but again, for most victims, it is nothing more than .a minor complaint. Here in the US, which as you know, has been affected badly, it is still not the civilisation-threatening affliction that many make it out to be. So far, we've had 194,000 deaths from the virus. That sounds a lot, I agree, but (and I know this will sound harsh) a good number of those would have succumbed to other ailments, particularly underlying ones, this year. The fact is that over 600,000 Americans a year die from heart disease, and a further 600,000 die from cancer. Even though people may die "from" COVID-19, many will actually be dying from their underlying conditions. Unfortunately, we've been brainwashed into believing that, if you die while suffering from COVID-19, that means you died FROM it, which is totally untrue. For most of us, it is nothing to worry unduly about - and certainly not worth bringing the world to a standstill for... 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted September 14, 2020 Report Share Posted September 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Mark said: I can see both sides of this. Just 1 death today due to covid yet increased numbers over the last fortnight found positive. By a test that doesn't test for Covid.. (it tests for coronavirus). There's been increasing numbers for nearly two months. The numbers only increase because tests increase. There is no 'other side'. Whilst 100 people are dying with Covid on their death certs, 1000 are dying with flu/pneumonia on their death certs. Folks just aren't told that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted September 14, 2020 Report Share Posted September 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, BWitcher said: Whilst 100 people are dying with Covid on their death certs, 1000 are dying with flu/pneumonia on their death certs. Folks just aren't told that. Not only are they not told that, we've had people on here stating that flu and pneumonia aren't listed on certificates as a "cause of death"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted September 14, 2020 Report Share Posted September 14, 2020 So, before we get to a third page on Covid, what are our thoughts on the weekend's GPs? 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted September 14, 2020 Report Share Posted September 14, 2020 Amazing how the leading medical professionals across the world are all wrong... COVID is a threat, make no mistake about it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted September 15, 2020 Report Share Posted September 15, 2020 Bydgoszcz will be announced today I reckon (last logistical day to do it). Not the amount of virus in Czech Republic the issue but the concern that if 1 person gets tested positive over the weekend the Series Finale and PL in Poland are at risk. Polish Federation dictates again. Watch this space 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted September 15, 2020 Report Share Posted September 15, 2020 I think Woffy will win a round at Prague and go on to take the title with the rest of the series being held on "neutral" tracks. Although I understand he took a knock last night, I haven't watched it yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchGrasstrack Posted September 15, 2020 Report Share Posted September 15, 2020 My country, The Netherlands, also joins the list of countries advising against unnecessary trips to prague 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted September 15, 2020 Report Share Posted September 15, 2020 Death rate and cases are both incredibly low... don’t understand it at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchGrasstrack Posted September 15, 2020 Report Share Posted September 15, 2020 Prague will go ahead according to the club on facebook. They say the Gorzow paddock rumours is all 'fake news'. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Yorker Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 On 9/14/2020 at 2:09 PM, chunky said: Should BWitcher get infected by COVID-19, then no, I would not expect him to need any treatment (certainly nothing out of the ordinary), and certainly not need a hospital bed. Sadly, with your medical history, James, you may be more at risk. Before you say anything, I do not consider that I am "at risk", but my wife (who has several underlying health conditions, including a compromised immune system), would be. The trouble is that you seem to believe the blanket panic that has continued to spread. As Mark said, increased testing has increased the number of confirmed infections, but for the vast majority - who are relatively healthy, and not over 80 - it is not a serious issue. I have lost a couple of friends to it, and know several others who have been infected, but again, for most victims, it is nothing more than .a minor complaint. Here in the US, which as you know, has been affected badly, it is still not the civilisation-threatening affliction that many make it out to be. So far, we've had 194,000 deaths from the virus. That sounds a lot, I agree, but (and I know this will sound harsh) a good number of those would have succumbed to other ailments, particularly underlying ones, this year. The fact is that over 600,000 Americans a year die from heart disease, and a further 600,000 die from cancer. Even though people may die "from" COVID-19, many will actually be dying from their underlying conditions. Unfortunately, we've been brainwashed into believing that, if you die while suffering from COVID-19, that means you died FROM it, which is totally untrue. For most of us, it is nothing to worry unduly about - and certainly not worth bringing the world to a standstill for... Unfortunately, this kind of thinking is why the U.S. looks like a third world country when it comes to our covid 19 deaths which were mostly caused by poor, excuse me, no leadership from our president. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiegal Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 18 hours ago, DutchGrasstrack said: Prague will go ahead according to the club on facebook. They say the Gorzow paddock rumours is all 'fake news'. All GP events financially are based around revenue from TV and its associated feeds and advertising...its too late to re-arrange all the requirements of the event..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 6 hours ago, New Yorker said: Unfortunately, this kind of thinking is why the U.S. looks like a third world country when it comes to our covid 19 deaths which were mostly caused by poor, excuse me, no leadership from our president. Funny that as the deaths are the highest in the Democrat states. Don't let truth get in the way though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 Any chance of BWitcher disappearing back to waffle complete nonsense on his Covid-19 thread, so that we can get on with discussing the Prague rounds. Intriguing couple of rounds ahead. Woffy is traditionally strong around Prague - can he come strong and get himself back into contention? On the other hand, not a track that Zmarzlik seems to like! But Lindgren seems to be the rider who is pulling out all the stops at the sharp end of meetings, which is critical under the new points system. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 Yes Lindgren not on the top step in the GPs but still there making finals, i think he will go on and win it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, lucifer sam said: Any chance of BWitcher disappearing back to waffle complete nonsense on his Covid-19 thread, so that we can get on with discussing the Prague rounds. Intriguing couple of rounds ahead. Woffy is traditionally strong around Prague - can he come strong and get himself back into contention? On the other hand, not a track that Zmarzlik seems to like! But Lindgren seems to be the rider who is pulling out all the stops at the sharp end of meetings, which is critical under the new points system. As usual you arrive with a personal vendetta. Numerous people discussed it.. and I didn't raise it. As for complete nonsense, everything I have said is 100% factually correct. You are right though, let's stick to the meeting. Glad it is going ahead at Prague, may not be the best race track but does offer something different to the Polish tracks. I agree with you that it's a chance for Woffinden to post some big points although he'll need to be gating well. Are the Anlas tires still banned? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 Energy drinks generally found to be unhealthy , can’t see the M drink being banned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 11 hours ago, New Yorker said: Unfortunately, this kind of thinking is why the U.S. looks like a third world country when it comes to our covid 19 deaths which were mostly caused by poor, excuse me, no leadership from our president. What "kind of thinking", and what SHOULD we be thinking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 3 hours ago, topaz325 said: Energy drinks generally found to be unhealthy , can’t see the M drink being banned. Water's unhealthy for you in excess... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 4 hours ago, BWitcher said: Are the Anlas tires still banned? As far as I know, they are banned "until further notice"; there haven't been any statements to the contrary (at least not visible statements). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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