tyretrax Posted September 10, 2020 Report Share Posted September 10, 2020 Strange that the FIM ban Anlas tyres for GP's and British speedway announce they'll be used here next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted September 11, 2020 Report Share Posted September 11, 2020 (edited) Tyres have often proved a bane within speedway...recall so many instances whereby meetings were either held up or protests put in place due to the irregularities and/or confusion over various makes and their legality in the eyes of the authorities, Edited September 11, 2020 by steve roberts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted September 11, 2020 Report Share Posted September 11, 2020 I can remember in the late 90s when the tyre softening reared its head again and I think it was around then they brought in fitting a tyre at the meeting, someone would bring 14 tyres and the machine examiner would write the date on the tyre with a white marker pen and then the rider would fit his tyre, some would fit the tyre in the pits some would go to there van and fit it, not saying it happened but remember the saying “here is one I prepared earlier” with the correct date writ on comes from the van 10 mins later I think that died out in recent times as I never saw it in my mechanic days but I think the focus of the cheating changed from tyres to fuel and for a time silencers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted September 11, 2020 Report Share Posted September 11, 2020 8 hours ago, tyretrax said: Strange that the FIM ban Anlas tyres for GP's and British speedway announce they'll be used here next season. I did hear a few weeks back that mitas has new owners and they were saying there is not enough money in producing speedway tyres but anyway anlas seem keen so why not, what happened to the golden tyre ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odds On Posted September 11, 2020 Report Share Posted September 11, 2020 same old speedway bullsh1t...the rumours always float around the sport when someone is going well...dodgy tyres, dodgy carb, dodgy fuel, over sized engine, engine springs etc etc etc...whats next, riders using technology to hear a sound when at the gate that the tapes are just about to go up?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted September 11, 2020 Report Share Posted September 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Odds On said: same old speedway bullsh1t...the rumours always float around the sport when someone is going well...dodgy tyres, dodgy carb, dodgy fuel, over sized engine, engine springs etc etc etc...whats next, riders using technology to hear a sound when at the gate that the tapes are just about to go up?! While there are always rumours around and it’s true when someone is going well these rumours are vibrant but I was there with the tyres cheating in the 90s and I saw with my own eyes a modified silencer from a top star and it wasn’t just the hole drilling either which was widespread a few years ago, even in poland right now they are thinking of introducing fitting a standard tanks before meeting, cheating has always gone on and always 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted September 11, 2020 Report Share Posted September 11, 2020 Didn't they also used to spray the tyres with the wd 40 or brake/clutch cleaner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko Posted September 11, 2020 Report Share Posted September 11, 2020 I still can remember the farce at Coventry with the solid block tyres they tried to bring in, and I wasn’t even there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted September 11, 2020 Report Share Posted September 11, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Baldyman said: Didn't they also used to spray the tyres with the wd 40 or brake/clutch cleaner? Thinners, Brake cleaner , anything that dries quickly , not wd40, wd40 was used by some including me to make fitting the tyres easier but only round the rim of tyre not on the tread Edited September 11, 2020 by THE DEAN MACHINE 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike.Butler Posted September 11, 2020 Report Share Posted September 11, 2020 17 minutes ago, marko said: I still can remember the farce at Coventry with the solid block tyres they tried to bring in, and I wasn’t even there. LOL.. I was!!!! MOM Chris Manchester ( but all in vain...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Skid Posted September 11, 2020 Report Share Posted September 11, 2020 Xylene was the best for softening, trouble was you ended up with melted rubber everywhere, some clever people made up a rotating bath that you could leave the tyre in for a few hours, so i have heard lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtf Posted September 11, 2020 Report Share Posted September 11, 2020 Speedway.......... The only motorsport I can think of that specifically uses a control tyre to reduce costs, even the playing field, and prevent a tyre war. And then allows the use of another alternative tyre. You couldn't make it up. Anlas have only been courted by various speedway bodies over the last few years as Mitas have been threatening to pull out for a while. So they allowed their use to keep them around, same as their encouragement with the Golden Tyre in the past. Can you imagine Ferrari turning up at the next F1 Grand Prix and saying, we want to use some other tyres because we don't like these Pirelli's and my best mate just took a kick back off of this other manufacturer. Speedway exists in spite of the clowns running it, not because of. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted September 13, 2020 Report Share Posted September 13, 2020 diesel fuel used to be good for making the tyres soft . just one drawback . the smell . do thetystill cut the treads on the rear tyres or is that old fashioned . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*JJ Posted September 14, 2020 Report Share Posted September 14, 2020 15 hours ago, jenga said: do thetystill cut the treads on the rear tyres or is that old fashioned . They come ready cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted September 14, 2020 Report Share Posted September 14, 2020 5 hours ago, *JJ said: They come ready cut. Must have been a "tyre" some procedure cutting them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technik Posted October 11, 2020 Report Share Posted October 11, 2020 I can't believe the powers within British speedway have taken on this new tyre that has yet to be tested. In fact it was only re-homologated this week so has yet to be track tested. The previous Anlas tyre was only used at SGP where it is permitted to use a new tyre in each race. What testing has been done with this tyre on British tracks & under BL regulations where you can race upto 7 times on a single tyre. As I understand the Anlas tyre is more expensive than the Mitas tyre it is replacing & the mould pattern looks exactly the same as the Mitas. I can see that when racing restarts in the UK this will blow up in the BSPA face & we will revert to the Mitas tyre & I suspect Mitas will match the price of the Anlas tyre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted October 14, 2020 Report Share Posted October 14, 2020 On 9/11/2020 at 2:18 PM, Mike.Butler said: LOL.. I was!!!! MOM Chris Manchester ( but all in vain...) So was I. Not pleasant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Eck Posted October 15, 2020 Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 On 10/11/2020 at 1:54 PM, Technik said: I can't believe the powers within British speedway have taken on this new tyre that has yet to be tested. In fact it was only re-homologated this week so has yet to be track tested. The previous Anlas tyre was only used at SGP where it is permitted to use a new tyre in each race. What testing has been done with this tyre on British tracks & under BL regulations where you can race upto 7 times on a single tyre. As I understand the Anlas tyre is more expensive than the Mitas tyre it is replacing & the mould pattern looks exactly the same as the Mitas. I can see that when racing restarts in the UK this will blow up in the BSPA face & we will revert to the Mitas tyre & I suspect Mitas will match the price of the Anlas tyre The GB team used Anlas tyres in the GB vs Denmark test last October at Kings Lynn. They also used Anlas tyres in the Team under 21 final this year. Certainly at KL, it was one tyre per rider. It was the 2020 tyre that caused the problem, but it wasn’t only used in the GPs - some of the Ekstraliga riders - Anders Thomsen for one - was using them. Judging by the number of flat (Mitas) tyres in the Ekstraliga this year, I suspect riders have been running Mitas tyres at very low pressures to try to match the grip that Anlas was giving. The soft nature of the Anlas tyre was the reason why the 2020 tyre was removed from homologation. British speedway have had a contract with Mitas for years which has been both for commercial and consistency reasons. This contract expires at the end of this year. The contract with Anlas follows the same reasoning. Anlas tyres are not in anyway dangerous and, as the pricing will be the same as with Mitas, and all riders will be on the same tyre, what’s the problem? Mitas have been threatening to withdraw from the speedway market for several years now, whereas Anlas (check them out - they are a huge company) are keen to use speedway to spread brand recognition. I don’t see a problem with what’s happening. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARK246 Posted October 15, 2020 Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 The new Anlas tyres have been tested by the FIM, and have been approved for use in the SON meetings. By the start of the 2021 season they should have no problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted October 15, 2020 Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 5 hours ago, MARK246 said: The new Anlas tyres have been tested by the FIM, and have been approved for use in the SON meetings. By the start of the 2021 season they should have no problems What do you mean "by the start of 2021 they should have no problem"......... surely they must have no problem now or they wouldnt be allows in this years SON. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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