Tactical Joker Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 (edited) According to my score chart, with apologies for any errors in advance, the differences between the two different scoring systems were: Lindgren +6, Woffinden +2, Zagar +2, Janowski +1, Chugunov +1, Doyle +1 Vaculik -2, Madsen -1, Sayfutdinov -1, Michelsen -1 The rest get the same under either system. Didn’t even try to work out positions 5 to 13, just took them off the GP website. Certainly gives you some homework to do after the meeting. Another vote for the old system. Laguta thoroughly deserved that, good to see a new winner. Edited August 28, 2020 by Tactical Joker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 1 minute ago, r8gdp said: Good meeting definitely but why do the pillocks who run our great sport make it look like it's run by Walt Disney lol Don’t compare. Disney is a very well run company! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r8gdp Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 Good one I like your style Just now, Steve Shovlar said: Don’t compare. Disney is a very well run company! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lucifer sam Posted August 28, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 OK, two examples: Laguta has 14 points entering the semi-finals. His reward for taking a further two wins is another 6 points. Lindgren has 7 points entering the semi-finals. His reward for a second and a third is another 9 points. That's nuts! If it ain't broke, don't fix it with a sledgehammer! 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 The new scoring system is rubbish 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve69 Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 Scoring system a joke!!! Who finished 5th ? Biggest winner Lindgren plus 6. Should be 10 pts back but only 4 away from Laguta. 3 riders scored 5 pts. Who gets the most `silly system` points. Nothing explained on tv. Even the on screen scorers had Madsen down as 16th!!! SGP have had an extra 3 months to sort out & no one knows. Tatum & Pearson don`t know & just laugh about it. For the fan watching for the first time this system is a shambles & so confusing. Mark my words there will be a big accident in one of these semi-finals with riders go for gaps that are not there. Lindgren was lucky with his move into turn 3. That`s why they changed the system in the past because too many riders were getting injured. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPNY Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 I think the guy who wins the GP gets the most points isn't awful. To my knowledge that's the same basic scoring system to determine the winner in pretty much every other sport in the world. Also and most importantly, its the SAME FOR ALL THE RIDERS so it can be an advantage or disadvantage for any of them in any meeting. But the same rules (which they are all aware of) apply for all 16 of them.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 You don’t really have to race for a lot or their points though slow and steady wins the race.Lindgren got a shed load of points for finishing 2nd and 3rd when it mattered.Still the racing was Ok to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, RPNY said: I think the guy who wins the GP gets the most points isn't awful. To my knowledge that's the same basic scoring system to determine the winner in pretty much every other sport in the world. . On the contrary, in F2, points are awarded in EACH race - in the feature race on the Saturday and the sprint race on Sunday. In the British Touring Car series, if there's three races, points are awarded for each of them. Same in virtually every motorsport discipline - points are awarded in every race. Speedway has now gone out on a limb. Edited August 28, 2020 by lucifer sam 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, RPNY said: I think the guy who wins the GP gets the most points isn't awful. To my knowledge that's the same basic scoring system to determine the winner in pretty much every other sport in the world. Do these other sports have various rounds for the one meeting ? I. e different heats where all the points are then over ridden ? Or is it just like F1 one race and so the winner is the winner. They don’t have carious heats then a semi and a final in F1, so no comparison. I am interested which sports you are talking about 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r8gdp Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 27 minutes ago, Shockster said: Sick of the moaning about the scoring. The riders know the rules. Get over it. The meeting was great, what more do you want. FFS. Me personally a one off meeting 5 rides no semi finals or finals . For me with this field every race would be a pressure race one last place and your done no second chances that's pressure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPNY Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, lucifer sam said: On the contrary, in F2, points are awarded in EACH race - in the feature race on the Saturday and the sprint race on Sunday. In the British Touring Car series, if there's three races, points are awarded for each of them. Same in virtually every motorsport discipline - points are awarded in every race. Speedway has now gone out on a limb. But each race is 1 race? Similar to a final right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner85 Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 Is Freddie Lindgren the new Nicki Pedersen ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 Just now, RPNY said: But each race is 1 race? Similar to a final right? F1 has 1 race per event, F2 has 2 races per event, British Touring Cars has 3 races per event, a Speedway Grand Prix has 23 races per event. Each used to award points per race - speedway is now the odd one out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r8gdp Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Gunner85 said: Is Freddie Lindgren the new Nicki Pedersen ? Freddie's hard but he s no Nicki p lol Nicki would still do ok in the gps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 8 minutes ago, r8gdp said: Me personally a one off meeting 5 rides no semi finals or finals . For me with this field every race would be a pressure race one last place and your done no second chances that's pressure THE last race of the meeting should always determine the winner. Gary Havelock won his World title in Heat 17 ... the last three races were pointless. After several different systems over the years, the most recent prior to tonight worked just fine. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, r8gdp said: Freddie's hard but he s no Nicki p lol Nicki would still do ok in the gps Yeah he would still be running them to the fence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 8 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said: THE last race of the meeting should always determine the winner. Gary Havelock won his World title in Heat 17 ... the last three races were pointless. After several different systems over the years, the most recent prior to tonight worked just fine. Somewhere in there was the merest hint that you think they were wrong to change it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilly Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 If they want a winner takes all final, go back to an older system of A B C and D finals. You have to finish top 4 to have a chance of winning the meeting, rather than 8th. Of all the systems so far, probably prefer last seasons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 Don’t think many riders or fans thought that the system needed changed. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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