Big Al Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 goodness me, that old expression about squabbling over the arrangement of the deck chairs whilst the ship is sinking, has hardly been more applicable 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ringitsneck Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 A weeks delay for what? Little will have changed so why not postpone for a month minimum ? The government make decisions one day and change them the next so what do the ‘ mafia ‘ think they can predict in one week? whatever happens in football at the lower levels will dictate if a professional speedway league can proceed with a non limited crowd as a limited crowd is not a viable option for most clubs so nothing will have changed by next week as football is being advised no crowds this season so nothing changes till May. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badge Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 Mike bacon's take on speedway's future perhaps https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/mike-bacon-speedway-can-be-great-again-6889064?s=09 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff100 Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 22 minutes ago, Badge said: Mike bacon's take on speedway's future perhaps https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/mike-bacon-speedway-can-be-great-again-6889064?s=09 That guy talks alot of sence i hope certain people listen. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 3 hours ago, Badge said: Mike bacon's take on speedway's future perhaps https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/mike-bacon-speedway-can-be-great-again-6889064?s=09 All 100% accurate... But nothing that hasn't been said on here, clubs' own fans forums, and in the Speedway publications, a gazzilion times over the past two decades or so.. Rinse and repeat ad infinitum I am afraid.. The glaring issues have been there for a long, long time and must be obvious to all... But still not sorted... A classic example is that they have had a NINE month lead time to plan ahead, plot their own way forward, be in charge (once more), of their own destiny, and what do we have...? "Give us another week will you?" 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedtiger Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 23 hours ago, topaz325 said: See Bspa bulletin , to do with rider availability and stuff They’ve had plenty of time and advanced knowledge about the rider issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuxtonTiger Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 Why do riders have to be available at the AGM? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedtiger Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 2 hours ago, BuxtonTiger said: Why do riders have to be available at the AGM? They don’t, I suspect something else behind this decision. The bspa are not known for there honesty. They treat fans with contempt! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 my guess is they are getting confirmation of riders prepared to ride so they can decide on 6 or 7 man teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinderfella Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 25 minutes ago, stevehone said: my guess is they are getting confirmation of riders prepared to ride so they can decide on 6 or 7 man teams Should decide on 1 league 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 (edited) 38 minutes ago, stevehone said: my guess is they are getting confirmation of riders prepared to ride so they can decide on 6 or 7 man teams If correct. Surely this should have been done months ago? Forget any "Poland throwing a spanner in the works" or 'Brexit issues', as they should have had all riders who wanted to sign, signed up months ago using detailed knowledge of work permit rules.. Anyone hedging their bets, and biding time, should have been given to September end as the latest to confirm or not.. If no answer forthcoming or only a tentative 'yes' then that rider should have been ruled out... A 100% comittment or nothing at all has to be the way forward.. Then knowing how many unequivocal Yes answers they had, they could then have spent the last three months planning team strengths, riders per team, provisional fixture lists, race formats etc.. Its called being in charge of your own destiny.. Edited January 7, 2021 by mikebv 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 14 minutes ago, mikebv said: If correct. Surely this should have been done months ago? Forget any "Poland throwing a spanner in the works" or 'Brexit issues', as they should have had all riders who wanted to sign, signed up months ago using detailed knowledge of work permit rules.. Anyone hedging their bets, and biding time, should have been given to September end as the latest to confirm or not.. If no answer forthcoming or only a tentative 'yes' then that rider should have been ruled out... A 100% comittment or nothing at all has to be the way forward.. Then knowing how many unequivocal Yes answers they had, they could then have spent the last three months planning team strengths, riders per team, provisional fixture lists, race formats etc.. Its called being in charge of your own destiny.. Think it be the Brexit”excuse” this month. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Think it be the Brexit”excuse” this month. Yes brexit took them by surprise, quite unexpected! Edited January 7, 2021 by lewy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Fromafar said: Think it be the Brexit”excuse” this month. i think getting work permits may be the issue, new rules and all that. and i agree that they should only concentrate on those 100% committed, that's the only way forward from here on 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, lewy said: Yes brexit took them by surprise, quite unexpected! They certainly aren’t ahead of the game.Nothing new there though.Like has been pointed out elsewhere riders and contracts should be all signed up by December.Tell them to make up there mind where they are committed too,adjust GB speedway to suit with what’s left , after all the Poles seem to manage it.We are always going to play second fiddle to them nowadays. , Edited January 7, 2021 by Fromafar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 Polish speedway is run by people who want their league to be the best in the world, Britain speedway is run by people who want their team to be the best in the league! 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 7 hours ago, Fromafar said: They certainly aren’t ahead of the game.Nothing new there though.Like has been pointed out elsewhere riders and contracts should be all signed up by December.Tell them to make up there mind where they are committed too,adjust GB speedway to suit with what’s left , after all the Poles seem to manage it.We are always going to play second fiddle to them nowadays. , Isn't that why Glasgow and a few others like Somerset and Eastbourne are rightly kicking off? They built their teams to the rules, got everything sorted professionally and now the lazy ones who sat back want a reduced limit to cherry pick those that have to be released? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 35 minutes ago, lewy said: Polish speedway is run by people who want their league to be the best in the world, Britain speedway is run by people who want their team to be the best in the league! Wrong, Polish Speedway is run by people who have millions of TV and State and Local Authority money to spend who like the PL Soccer in UK are living beyond their means whilst they have that spending power. British Speedway is governed by dinosaurs and masses of stupid rules that stop some Clubs from having the power to break out of the headlock they have them in. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W9 Lion Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 2 hours ago, HGould said: Isn't that why Glasgow and a few others like Somerset and Eastbourne are rightly kicking off? They built their teams to the rules, got everything sorted professionally and now the lazy ones who sat back want a reduced limit to cherry pick those that have to be released? I think that the problem was that when riders were signed for thr 2021 season they were available. Now the rider is not. Eastbourne are in a strong position with a British 1-7 in the Championship, while other clubs have had riders withdrawn or there is some doubt on riders being in Europe next season etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 50 minutes ago, W9 Lion said: I think that the problem was that when riders were signed for thr 2021 season they were available. Now the rider is not. Eastbourne are in a strong position with a British 1-7 in the Championship, while other clubs have had riders withdrawn or there is some doubt on riders being in Europe next season etc. The problem is we have sat back and watch it happen.IMO. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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