woofers Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 12 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Promoters have the draft fixtures so they can check rider availability, not least their chosen/allocated 'rising star', before confirming them and making an announcement. All well and good, but it’s a bit daft for the governing body to say on the 14th January : BRITISH Speedway clubs have today agreed a start date of early May for the 2021 season. Fixtures will be published next week for both the Premiership and Championship. And not deliver. Surely they knew all about the ‘rising stars’ then and the impact this could have. There appears to be a lack of joined up thinking... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woofers Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Surely their priority is not to treat riders like mushrooms, then to let the fans know. Nothing worse than issuing a fixture list and then having to make wholesale changes if riders have fixture clashes. Its not as if fixtures are starting next week is it? Take a chill pill my friend. Doesn’t matter when the fixtures are starting. It was just stupid to say the fixture list would be published. They would have been better to say nothing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, woofers said: Doesn’t matter when the fixtures are starting. It was just stupid to say the fixture list would be published. They would have been better to say nothing. ...and then everyone (on here at least) would be on at them for not saying anything!! In any normal year after the AGM in November, fixtures aren't usually available to fans til Jan/Feb anyway, even though clubs have their draft lists around the turn of the year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 19 minutes ago, Happy Hunter said: Perhaps you can explain then, why the promoters said, in last weeks press release, that the fixtures for the top two leagues would be published this week? Surely they must have known there might be problems with rider availability! Perhaps it's another case of treating fans like mushrooms. Keep them in the dark and feed them manure! Because they are a group of chocolate kettles, motorbike ashtrays and inflatable dartboards. What skidder says is quite right but you are too, they could have explained the situation fully and just said that the fixtures will be out soon and in plenty of time for a May start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 16 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: ...and then everyone (on here at least) would be on at them for not saying anything!! In any normal year after the AGM in November, fixtures aren't usually available to fans til Jan/Feb anyway, even though clubs have their draft lists around the turn of the year. Yes, probably they agreed to publish them in a weeks time as per the statement, but clubs being clubs don't always comply with the request for their team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Hunter Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 20 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: Because they are a group of chocolate kettles, motorbike ashtrays and inflatable dartboards. What skidder says is quite right but you are too, they could have explained the situation fully and just said that the fixtures will be out soon and in plenty of time for a May start. One new initiative that I have never heard mentioned by the BSPA is the appointment of a Press and Publicity Officer. Perhaps now would be a good time! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedtiger Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 Getting fixtures out isn’t that imperative as the way things are going the chance of starting the season in May is becoming more of a BSPA fairytale dream. There’s a long way to go with this crisis and far more important issues to deal with other than speedway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Happy Hunter said: One new initiative that I have never heard mentioned by the BSPA is the appointment of a Press and Publicity Officer. Perhaps now would be a good time! It's something that is long overdue as communications in general aren't good. They really need an independent outside agency or expert in the field. I guess if you pay peanuts though you get monkeys Mike from BV maybe a good call. Edited January 23, 2021 by HGould added final suggestion line 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 Why is it always so difficult? How about saying... ”It is our intention to get the fixtures released as soon as possible. Due to rider availability and potential team changes within certain teams this might not be able to be confirmed right away. As soon as these are confirmed we will keep you updated right away.” Why are they so incompetent at just the most basic of basic communication? Don’t make broken promises and treat your paying customers like absolute morons. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 16 minutes ago, Najjer said: Why is it always so difficult? How about saying... ”It is our intention to get the fixtures released as soon as possible. Due to rider availability and potential team changes within certain teams this might not be able to be confirmed right away. As soon as these are confirmed we will keep you updated right away.” Why are they so incompetent at just the most basic of basic communication? Don’t make broken promises and treat your paying customers like absolute morons. Obviously not all went well AGM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedtiger Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, Najjer said: Why is it always so difficult? How about saying... ”It is our intention to get the fixtures released as soon as possible. Due to rider availability and potential team changes within certain teams this might not be able to be confirmed right away. As soon as these are confirmed we will keep you updated right away.” Why are they so incompetent at just the most basic of basic communication? Don’t make broken promises and treat your paying customers like absolute morons. Agreed, it’s because the clowns of Rugby are arrogant and useless. They constantly treat fans as being as stupid as they are. This last PR proclamation is nothing more than smoke and mirrors to make us think this is being done to bring on young British riders...thats rubbish they tried similar in 2015 and it didn’t work. They are dumbing speedway down and fans will know it and will inevitably drift away. And promoters will scratch there heads and wonder why! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 Must admit has much as I've missed my speedway fix spending £18+ every week has got me thinking is it worth it. Certainly not vfm for the standard were getting 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 40 minutes ago, bruno said: Must admit has much as I've missed my speedway fix spending £18+ every week has got me thinking is it worth it. Certainly not vfm for the standard were getting I agree, i also feel the same way about Premier league football. I'm not sure i could ever pay those prices again on a regular basis. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 36 minutes ago, bruno said: Must admit has much as I've missed my speedway fix spending £18+ every week has got me thinking is it worth it. Certainly not vfm for the standard were getting I think for the good (or maybe even survival) of the sport, the fans in this country will have to go along with 'whatever' is served up this season.. And lets face it if you are still a regular, it means you are pretty much immune to the many years of nonsense that has passed and are therefore willing to accept what you are given, so hopefully will be relied upon to back the promoters.. A possible free pass maybe this season for the promoters, where some slack is given as they try and deliver the sport (and the Eurosport contract)... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 Good summary Mike. The regulars will be immune to various things. I do hope in parallel to on track focus that the standard of toilet facilities and crowd movement is being reviewed and improved. This is both in anticipation of level of restrictions, if any and the increased awareness and expectation regarding hygiene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proud panther Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 Must admit that the so called Premiership doesn't look worth £18. Can't see Bluster dropping admission prices, so will probably not bother. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 Are there any plans to change the conversion factor? If it stays at 1.6 then Josh Auty will be the most sought after rider in British speedway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 24, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 20 hours ago, bruno said: Must admit has much as I've missed my speedway fix spending £18+ every week has got me thinking is it worth it. Certainly not vfm for the standard were getting How do we know what standard of racing we are getting? There hasn't been any yet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 7 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: How do we know what standard of racing we are getting? There hasn't been any yet! Don't worry - the riders will easily maintain social distancing after the first bend! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 20 hours ago, proud panther said: Must admit that the so called Premiership doesn't look worth £18. Can't see Bluster dropping admission prices, so will probably not bother. Even in 2019 there was not much difference between the the premiership and championship. Most teams had one top rider I wont call them stars the rest were all double up riders. If the season starts then once again there will be little difference between the league's and you can be sure promoters wont be shelling out big contracts so I think a lot of fans wont be happy paying a premium to watch premiership racing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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