Tsunami Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, mikebv said: Great news re bringing on the young riders.. A successful GB team will deliver miles more coverage, publicity and therefore awareness of the sport, than any individual team success ever could.. 5 years though is a long time, and we have had plans of this length before.. So let's hope this time they stay solidly behind the plan.. Although, given some of the people now involved, I think we can have a bit more confidence that such a plan will now get carried through... For once I agree with you, and on every point. With COVID, Brexit, Poland and rider availability we were forced into bringing through the British youth which has never been in as good a shape for years through the BYC. I like the fact that an agreed plan has been developed, and all the clubs have agreed to a unified front on team selections, launch programme, and it's all aligned with the Eurosport and their launch. It doesn't really matter we have reduced the team strength, less costs going out of the sport with visas, flight, vehicles, lodgings and more concentration on Brits and especially the young riders. This is the sort of plan and unification that the sport badly needs to make future progress and build up British stock along the way. Only thing not hinted at is the possibility of a supremo to run the sport, possibility to be announced later when he has cut the ties that stops him from taking the post now. Well he has left now, so why hasn't Trump been announced. Having a personal interest in the sport, I sincerely hope it all goes well, and everyone thinks of the sport before their personal interest. Looking good. Edited January 21, 2021 by Tsunami 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillwhitewasmad Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 6 hours ago, Islander15 said: So they’re saying grading but really they still mean averages as a rider graded 2 cones up with a 2.00 average now anyway. That's as I understand it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proud panther Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 46 minutes ago, Tsunami said: For once I agree with you, and on every point. With COVID, Brexit, Poland and rider availability we were forced into bringing through the British youth which has never been in as good a shape for years through the BYC. I like the fact that an agreed plan has been developed, and all the clubs have agreed to a unified front on team selections, launch programme, and it's all aligned with the Eurosport and their launch. It doesn't really matter we have reduced the team strength, less costs going out of the sport with visas, flight, vehicles, lodgings and more concentration on Brits and especially the young riders. This is the sort of plan and unification that the sport badly needs to make future progress and build up British stock along the way. Only thing not hinted at is the possibility of a supremo to run the sport, possibility to be announced later when he has cut the ties that stops him from taking the post now. Having a personal interest in the sport, I sincerely hope it all goes well, and everyone thinks of the sport before their personal interest. Looking good. Will it last 5 years ? A lot of the young lads could have their confidence knocked if they are only scoring a couple of points. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 18 minutes ago, proud panther said: Will it last 5 years ? A lot of the young lads could have their confidence knocked if they are only scoring a couple of points. Always will happen for some. Being at 7 against like riders and have 2 other riders just about them at 6 is far better than being shoved in against no 1's in many races. Yes, they need a bit of protection, but there are many who at reserve at home can often beat the middle order and reserves of the away team. Thats the way to progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 So according to Sky News the government scientists are advising not to open hospiliatlity til May but speedway will start at the same time! Yeah right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 Just now, lisa-colette said: So according to Sky News the government scientists are advising not to open hospiliatlity til May but speedway will start at the same time! Yeah right! If that is the same as going back to Tier 2 then most Speedway tracks should be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Skidder1 said: If that is the same as going back to Tier 2 then most Speedway tracks should be fine. What if they mean no hospiliatlity til mid May? There is no way speedway will get ahead of that sector! As I have said before, July a much more realistic option, esp with schools prob not going back til just before Easter acc to Boris...? Hospital admission still on the rise atm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 8 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: So according to Sky News the government scientists are advising not to open hospiliatlity til May but speedway will start at the same time! Yeah right! I have also heard, in the premiership it's the top 6 to the playoffs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 johnson also said today than lockdown may not end till summer and that starts in june .another thing why would australian riders come over for a very short season ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimmo Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: What if they mean no hospiliatlity til mid May? There is no way speedway will get ahead of that sector! As I have said before, July a much more realistic option, esp with schools prob not going back til just before Easter acc to Boris...? Hospital admission still on the rise atm. BoJo is talking about the possibilty of summer, hope for goodness sake that isn't right!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimmo Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 minute ago, ray c said: johnson also said today than lockdown may not end till summer and that starts in june .another thing why would australian riders come over for a very short season ? I was typing my post as you were Ray, so we must have just watched the news on BBC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Mimmo said: BoJo is talking about the possibilty of summer, hope for goodness sake that isn't right!!! Better to give a long date you are pretty sure about then say May and then that doesn't happen! I guess it depends on if any more variants slip into the country. Edited January 21, 2021 by lisa-colette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, ray c said: johnson also said today than lockdown may not end till summer and that starts in june .another thing why would australian riders come over for a very short season ? So my July estimate could be right then. I did ask Stewert Dickson on Twitter if no speedway til July what would the season look like? He replied with Once home and away with no playoffs, is what he would guess. LisaColette @bluepride32Jan 13 Replying to @Stewart58963517 Personally can't see it happening til around July. Would half a season be feesible? Or is there are cut off month for starting the season? Stewart Dickson @Stewart58963517 ·Jan 14 I think if we started in July we would most probably do one home and one away with no play offs, that’s certainly what I would put forward. Edited January 21, 2021 by lisa-colette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacca Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 The hospitality industry is indoors, pubs and restaurants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 2022 shaping up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 26 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: Better to give a long date you are pretty sure about then say May and then that doesn't happen! I guess it depends on if any more variants slip into the country. OK. Let's start the season in August and then listen to the 'usuals' complain about restriction being lifted and no speedway to watch. You get done either way, but if you don't plan something, you are planning to fail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
customhouseregular Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 I appreciate the past was totally different than the present, but as a fan of 60 years who enjoyed his speedway in the mid/ late 60’s, I feel bound to compare. Of the 18 clubs who made up the British League in 1965, only 3 will compete at the top level in 2021. Looking at the fare on offer back then... 17 visiting teams, World-class riders at every meeting, open meetings of a GP standard, world championship rounds and an 18 team cup competition, I can’t help feeling today’s fan is being woefully short- changed. To have only 5 visiting teams with no GP riders in a whole season is far from exciting. I accept I no longer attend meetings and there will be forum members who feel I am not entitled to comment, but I doubt any members who watched British League speedway between 1965 and 1971 would disagree with me. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 So six ‘future stars’ for the top league......Kemp, Rowe, Flint, Palin, Brennan, Bickley? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
customhouseregular Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 If they make the grade, and I hope they do, great. But... we can all remember many bright young prospects who never made it. If the future for British speedway is bright I shall be as pleased as anyone, but I can’t believe too many fans are excited at the prospect of 10 home league meetings featuring 5 visiting teams, lacking all those of world class because they are all in Poland and Sweden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 3 hours ago, Tsunami said: For once I agree with you, and on every point. With COVID, Brexit, Poland and rider availability we were forced into bringing through the British youth which has never been in as good a shape for years through the BYC. I like the fact that an agreed plan has been developed, and all the clubs have agreed to a unified front on team selections, launch programme, and it's all aligned with the Eurosport and their launch. It doesn't really matter we have reduced the team strength, less costs going out of the sport with visas, flight, vehicles, lodgings and more concentration on Brits and especially the young riders. This is the sort of plan and unification that the sport badly needs to make future progress and build up British stock along the way. Only thing not hinted at is the possibility of a supremo to run the sport, possibility to be announced later when he has cut the ties that stops him from taking the post now. Having a personal interest in the sport, I sincerely hope it all goes well, and everyone thinks of the sport before their personal interest. Looking good. About 20 years too late, but, better late than never... At last it appears that those who have routinely year on year helped reduce the sport to an almost irrelevance at domestic league level by using such a ludicrous operating model and business plan, have either been outnumbered and have no choice but to lump it, or have finally seen the hand in front of their face reality that whatever they did to help their own team win a title, it made zero impact to the sports long term success, as basically, it mattered not one jot to so many given the lack of a credible offer that they provided each week... Getting the GB team successful consistently has to be the overriding priority of the BSPL, with all three of their leagues providing an end to that means, with hopefully also the assistance of Poland and Sweden in providing places for UK riders deemed sufficiently good enough to get those place offers as they progress.. Teams full of UK lads has to be the target for the sport over here to once again get the publicity it so badly needs, and there really is no better way for a sport to awaken the public's consciousness towards it than bringing national success into their homes via the TV and media regularly... Lets hope it's the start of promoters finally bringing some reality to what their roles really are, (which is to grow the sport as a collective), and the end of them feeling that their own team winning any UK speedway title was 'the be all and end all', because it truly isn't... Good luck to all who are giving it go and let's hope any bumps in the road are taken as such and don't get used as an excuse for any abandonment of the scheme.. Who knows, maybe in a few years time the domestic titles in the UK will have credibility due to being ran 'properly' and the teams that win the comps gain some 'proper' national coverage (and financial rewards), for their endeavours, and it will be all down to having generated interest in the sport through having plenty of British world class riders dominating the sport at the highest level.. It will be a long old road, but the journey has to start somewhere... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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