RS50 Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Najjer said: So there is talk of teams needing to have British reserves at Championship level.... ... It just shows utter contempt yet again for the fans with all this secrecy and “details to be revealed soon” bull$hit. If it’s been sorted at the AGM why invite speculation instead of just releasing the facts and keeping everybody informed? Whenever I hear the " details to be revealed soon" always seems to me like a children's playground "I know something you don't know". Probably not what was intended, but it is my interpretation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 20 minutes ago, RS50 said: Whenever I hear the " details to be revealed soon" always seems to me like a children's playground "I know something you don't know". Probably not what was intended, but it is my interpretation. Seems a fair view to take. Let's leak / dribble out the info. Then the fans who know the rule book can refine it so it becomes more palatable (hopefully!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 In the Speedway Star of 2nd Jan it mentioned a Working For The Future Committee.. Mark Lemon, Chris Louis, Dale Allitt John Campbell, Stewart Dickson and Ben Duffill.. The brief being to deliver some forward looking blueprint for UK Speedway.. Wonder if it (or any part of it) has been used to reach decisions at the AGM? Some of the names on the committee are people who seem to have some modern ideas and understand change is needed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 1 hour ago, screm said: My sources tell me that no decision was taking on the biscuit front. An EGM is being set up as we speak to make final decision after which they will start on more mundane matters such as points limits, rider availability, rules and regs etc. Is it possible to zoom a biscuit? Asking for a friend....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Najjer said: So there is talk of teams needing to have British reserves at Championship level.... ... It just shows utter contempt yet again for the fans with all this secrecy and “details to be revealed soon” bull$hit. If it’s been sorted at the AGM why invite speculation instead of just releasing the facts and keeping everybody informed? Presumably if the '2 Brits at reserve' proves to be accurate, there needs to be sometime for each team to check fixtures and the availability of the preferred Brits before announcing anything and then having to possibly backtrack if certain riders can't make all the fixtures? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enotian Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) Funny isn't it. Absolutely nobody would expect Sainsbury's to tell them five months in advance exactly what is going to be on their shelves, who'll be on the checkout or the name of the delivery driver. Yet when it comes to sports we simply all most know everything the exact minute the decision has been made despite us having absolutely no rights to the information and that knowing or not knowing this information right away makes no difference to whether or not we attend [noting that advance season ticket sales would be the only reason to make the information available early]. I think it's a form of FOMO and because we're all a bit jealous that we don't get to have our ideas implemented. And because we know they'll come up with something daft. But the truth is that us knowing what is going on behind the scenes is of no significance. We'll find out when we find out and decide if we like or dislike the outcome at that point. Doesn't matter if that's hot off the press last Thursday or in 4 months time. Edited January 16, 2021 by enotian 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedtiger Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Skidder1 said: Is it possible to zoom a biscuit? Asking for a friend....... Surely the only biscuit the BSPA clowns would have is ‘Jammy Dodgers’? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 9 minutes ago, Speedtiger said: Surely the only biscuit the BSPA clowns would have is ‘Jammy Dodgers’? Or Chocolate Fingers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Skidder1 said: Presumably if the '2 Brits at reserve' proves to be accurate, there needs to be sometime for each team to check fixtures and the availability of the preferred Brits before announcing anything and then having to possibly backtrack if certain riders can't make all the fixtures? It's a freshly made British made biscuit for table 7 apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghosty Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 4 hours ago, spiegal said: There was an old adage in Speedway years ago...you make your own stars within 2 months....Always listen to what your customer wants..imo people want 1. Entertainment. 2. Value for money 3. racers not riders..4. decent toilets and food. 5. team members who are yours and neither borrowed or racing for another uk team. 6. A Team..not made up of seven people whose name you can't even pronounce. 7. get rid of race times..it impresses nobody and puts nobody on the gate 8. Standardised equipment..Obviously riders wouldn't like it..but if it saves money they will quickly come round...9. Never let the tail wag the donkey..10. The NL concept is the road map.....entertainment again.. Well said James, exactly what many supporters have been saying for years. FACT IS there has never been a better time for major changes to be implemented but will they happen? My guess is we will be presented with minor adjustments to an already not fit for purpose GB league set up, things like 6 man teams to save money, it's been tried & was hated so why would you try again. A TOTAL TRANSFORMATION IS REQUIRED OR WE ARE DOOMED. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 i still think mirror the Danish route, and for rider availability etc THIS is the reason we need to have committed riders. i signed contracts to ride March - October, this has to be the way to get riders looking at where they actually want to be. i feel for the riders that are coming through and want to break into Poland for the money, but it really is a difficult time and back to basics is the only way to go forward 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 3 hours ago, enotian said: Funny isn't it. Absolutely nobody would expect Sainsbury's to tell them five months in advance exactly what is going to be on their shelves, who'll be on the checkout or the name of the delivery driver. Yet when it comes to sports we simply all most know everything the exact minute the decision has been made despite us having absolutely no rights to the information and that knowing or not knowing this information right away makes no difference to whether or not we attend [noting that advance season ticket sales would be the only reason to make the information available early]. I think it's a form of FOMO and because we're all a bit jealous that we don't get to have our ideas implemented. And because we know they'll come up with something daft. But the truth is that us knowing what is going on behind the scenes is of no significance. We'll find out when we find out and decide if we like or dislike the outcome at that point. Doesn't matter if that's hot off the press last Thursday or in 4 months time. You don’t go into a speedway match to buy a packet of digestives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyb Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 On 1/15/2021 at 4:10 PM, Ghosty said: That forward thinking rider was none other than current Plymouth promoter Mark (the Undertaker) Phillips. An Undertaker is what the sport needs if the BSPA keep on with the idea of league racing this year. Why not go with 4 Team Tournaments or open meetings. Let amateurs ride if necessary ; forget team racing ; Grasstrack racing has survived, always with open meetings. If only until the Pandemic disappears, lets just have some speedway on the tracks that are available. Who knows, the racing might well be better with individuals pitted against each other. You could also have different classes depending on experience. But you must have some fans to make it viable, and this is the biggest problem. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spl77 Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 5 hours ago, enotian said: The individual promoters know. They've just not announced it to the public yet. Sounds like there's going to be some kind of staged announcement with Eurosport.... you know to generate some interest. Will this announcement be made in Godfrey top class TV studio? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spl77 Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 I wonder what impact brexit will have in terms of gaining work permits to ride in this country? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillwhitewasmad Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 Can't see any announcement anytime soon hearing both our friends from north of the border and one from the south are been difficult in the negotiations on the way forward. Never mind though with the season not starting till may plenty of time yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proud panther Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 22 hours ago, stevehone said: so what would people on here do if it was your own money at risk, would you run this year or not take the chance? Wait until 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 9 minutes ago, phillwhitewasmad said: Can't see any announcement anytime soon hearing both our friends from north of the border and one from the south are been difficult in the negotiations on the way forward. Never mind though with the season not starting till may plenty of time yet Difficult times, beyond anything faced before, even WW2 didn't stop Speedway taking place... Therefore... Time to all come together and compromise if needed for the good of the sport as a whole, (it might actually only be one year of 'doing something different' after all?)... Every team that is left actually coming to the tapes, 'whenever' the season starts, has to be the objective, with every team having an opportunity to put out a competitive team being just as important.. From what you say, I can only presume there must be some involved in Speedway who are not aware of the pandemic yet? Or maybe some just simply didn't get the memo sent around 'working together'.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillwhitewasmad Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 9 minutes ago, mikebv said: Difficult times, beyond anything faced before, even WW2 didn't stop Speedway taking place... Therefore... Time to all come together and compromise if needed for the good of the sport as a whole, (it might actually only be one year of 'doing something different' after all?)... Every team that is left actually coming to the tapes, 'whenever' the season starts, has to be the objective, with every team having an opportunity to put out a competitive team being just as important.. From what you say, I can only presume there must be some involved in Speedway who are not aware of the pandemic yet? Or maybe some just simply didn't get the memo sent around 'working together'.... Would seem that way to those with a will to survive and hopefully help the sport survive but not to those with a will to win the league in these strange times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 11 minutes ago, phillwhitewasmad said: Would seem that way to those with a will to survive and hopefully help the sport survive but not to those with a will to win the league in these strange times You can only imagine that one, or maybe more, teams think they are sat on a 'killer team" which will allow them to win the league.. A victory that may even see them mentioned in the local "Gazette" or "Tribune", with maybe even a photo of them (possibly even in colour!), being put in just below the local Darts and Crib League results.. Who knows, their local mayor may hold a "buffet lunch" for them (post Covid obviously), which could attract up to 100 or so followers to attend and celebrate such a momentous, globally resonating achievement... Name in the local paper? With maybe a photo too? And a buffet lunch with the local mayor? Now that's got to be worth potentially f×××ing up a whole seasons Speedway for hasn't it? Hasn't it? 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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