arnieg Posted September 22, 2020 Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 11 minutes ago, Grachan said: I would imagine that this meeting has no bearing on Cardiff 2021. It is normally the winner of that year's British Championship that gets the wildcard. Does Jason Crump need a visa to ride here this year? If not, then surely he is here as British. Tobias Musialak and Rasmus Jensen didn't need visas to ride for Swindon last season. Did make them British? Crump is Australian, but I have no problems in him riding in this year's British Final Actually for once I feel sorry for the BSPA, they have sweated buckets to get this event on and been met with a barrage of whinges from fans, and now there is a strong likelihood that the event will be cancelled and they'll have to foot the sunk costs. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted September 22, 2020 Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, arnieg said: Tobias Musialak and Rasmus Jensen didn't need visas to ride for Swindon last season. Did make them British? Crump is Australian, but I have no problems in him riding in this year's British Final Actually for once I feel sorry for the BSPA, they have sweated buckets to get this event on and been met with a barrage of whinges from fans, and now there is a strong likelihood that the event will be cancelled and they'll have to foot the sunk costs. I don't see the connection. They were EU riders and didn't need one. As an Australian, Crump would need a visa to ride here. If he's not here on a visa then he must be here as a British citizen. That wouldn't apply to Musielak and Jensen. Under normal circumstances you wouldn't expect Jason Crump to be in the British Final, but it's not normal circumstances, and, as replacements for the top British riders who can't be bothered to ride go, a British born British citizen seems a pretty good one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted September 22, 2020 Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 8 minutes ago, arnieg said: Tobias Musialak and Rasmus Jensen didn't need visas to ride for Swindon last season. Did make them British? Crump is Australian, but I have no problems in him riding in this year's British Final Actually for once I feel sorry for the BSPA, they have sweated buckets to get this event on and been met with a barrage of whinges from fans, and now there is a strong likelihood that the event will be cancelled and they'll have to foot the sunk costs. Maybe people would be more forgiving if they did a good job the rest of the time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Blue Posted September 22, 2020 Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 (edited) I can't imagine that the meeting itself will be totally cancelled especially as the live stream is all set up. I think its probably just a case of whether the 1000 will be able to go. More headaches for the BSPA and Chris Louis who's done a hell of a lot to get it all set up. They are certainly going to have to announce what's going on soon as I'm sure people from afar have made travel and accommodation plans. Edited September 22, 2020 by Super Blue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
customhouseregular Posted September 22, 2020 Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 Unless I have read this wrong, BBC say all trial events cancelled, so no fans, if it goes ahead at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Flag Posted September 22, 2020 Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 hour ago, chris4gillian said: So if an Aussie wins this meeting, will they still be crowned the 'British' Champion 2020? Utterly laughable if that's the case. Does the winner still get a place at Cardiff in 2021? Again if an Aussie wins, will it then be the highest placed Brit? Come on BSPA, rename it the British Open (or similar) for goodness sake! This is 100% not a British Final is it is supposed to be. I would imagine the Cardiff wild card 2021 will be the British Champion 2021 not the British Champion 2020 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted September 22, 2020 Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 16 minutes ago, customhouseregular said: Unless I have read this wrong, BBC say all trial events cancelled, so no fans, if it goes ahead at all. from October (hopefully!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4gillian Posted September 22, 2020 Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 hour ago, norbold said: 1961, 1964-1967, 1969: British Champion: Barry Briggs 1968, 1970-1972: British Champion: Ivan Mauger It's nothing new. We are now in 2020 nearly 50 years later than the last 'non British' winner....so today it would be something new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4gillian Posted September 22, 2020 Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Grachan said: I would imagine that this meeting has no bearing on Cardiff 2021. It is normally the winner of that year's British Championship that gets the wildcard. Does Jason Crump need a visa to ride here this year? If not, then surely he is here as British. Deleted Edited September 22, 2020 by chris4gillian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badge Posted September 22, 2020 Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 minute ago, chris4gillian said: Which the winner of this meeting will be....unless I'm missing something. Think there will be a British final 2021, which will determine the 2021 Cardiff wildcard, this has no wildcard attached. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted September 22, 2020 Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 minute ago, chris4gillian said: Which the winner of this meeting will be....unless I'm missing something. You are missing something - Cardiff 2020 was cancelled months ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4gillian Posted September 22, 2020 Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 26 minutes ago, Red Flag said: I would imagine the Cardiff wild card 2021 will be the British Champion 2021 not the British Champion 2020 That makes perfect sense, assuming the British Championship is run before Cardiff in 2021. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4gillian Posted September 22, 2020 Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 Just now, lucifer sam said: You are missing something - Cardiff 2020 was cancelled months ago. Yes I was, a blonde moment my end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted September 22, 2020 Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, chris4gillian said: Which the winner of this meeting will be....unless I'm missing something. The norm is that the British Final is before Cardiff. So if 2021 is anything like a normal speedway year (we can hope), there will be another British Final before Cardiff 2021, the winner of which will qualify as the wildcard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4gillian Posted September 22, 2020 Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 Just now, False dawn said: The norm is that the British Final is before Cardiff. So if 2021 is anything like a normal speedway year (we can hope), there will be another British Final before Cardiff 2021, the winner of which will qualify as the wildcard. Yes I know, I had a thicky moment as already posted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted September 22, 2020 Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 minute ago, chris4gillian said: Yes I know, I had a thicky moment as already posted I can't type fast enough. By the time I'd posted my long winded response, three other people had already beaten you up (figuratively). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted September 22, 2020 Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 Anyway, IMO it's fine to call it the British Final. Fingers crossed, that as a test event, it's not affected by this morning's news from the government. The BSPA have had to really jump the hurdles to get this on - let's hope all that hard work is not scuppered. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted September 22, 2020 Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 Just now, Richard Weston said: From the BBC website (but does not give date as from when): The pilot programme will also be paused. Let's hope it's October 1st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinderfella Posted September 22, 2020 Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 C'mon lets get real here. If 1000 folk can't get to attend the 'British' Final it's not the end of the world. Getting on top of the pandemic has to be the priority. At the end of the day speedway is still just a sport and although Ipswich and BSPA have put a lot of work into preparing for a meeting there are greater priorities in life. Covid 19 is out of control so why are measures not been brought in immediately rather than October as quoted? Surely it would be better having a couple of months full lockdown now and perhaps some level of Christmas and New Year can be salvaged and families can get together and businesses saved. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4gillian Posted September 22, 2020 Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 minute ago, cinderfella said: C'mon lets get real here. If 1000 folk can't get to attend the 'British' Final it's not the end of the world. Getting on top of the pandemic has to be the priority. At the end of the day speedway is still just a sport and although Ipswich and BSPA have put a lot of work into preparing for a meeting there are greater priorities in life. Covid 19 is out of control so why are measures not been brought in immediately rather than October as quoted? Surely it would be better having a couple of months full lockdown now and perhaps some level of Christmas and New Year can be salvaged and families can get together and businesses saved. Jeez, don't let B'Witcher or DC2 (and their clique) read that post. You'll get hung, drawn and quartered for posting such 'nonsense' (in their eyes) but common sense to most others. For the record I agree with you and if you don't comprehend my comment above, pop on over to the 'Covid-19 Are We Being Told The Truth' thread if you have 6 hours to spare... 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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