youngy105 Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, geoff58 said: well what's lambert's excuse for not riding in it ? he is not involved in polish play/offs where dan is riding for his contracted club in poland !! You're assuming Dan will get a ride. He'll be at Number 8 which doesn't guarantee a ride. Edited September 19, 2020 by youngy105 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, youngy105 said: You're assuming Dan will get a ride. He'll be at Number 8 which doesn't guarantee a ride. According to the provisional teams Drabik has been dropped, again, but Wroclaw have put one of their Juniors at No.2 rather than Dan. That speaks volumes. They have to have two Poles in their top five. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 11 hours ago, Hawk127 said: As to those riders who do not want to ride, it is up to them. Just remember when the sport really needed you, as the opt out group, you decided it was not for you and you have turned your back on U.K. speedway which is fine but don’t expect many to welcome with open arms in 2021. Tricky one this, to ditch the national championship and GB Speedway, who have probably invested a lot in him for a team who have been less than loyal to him and bin him off after 1 ride seems a very strange decision. As far as I know a national championship trumps a league meeting no matter what country it's in. Listening to Dan on the Talk Speedway podcast he described the British Championship as "just another meeting" which probably tells you all you need to know on this one... I expected better from him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 Bickley is a strange choice? Declined U21 European spot earlier in season. Brennan I get as got in on 6.05 average, Kemp is defending U19 Champion and Home Team rider. I can find 11 British riders with average higher than Bickley and below 6 points. Likes of Shanes, Newman, Morris, Clegg, Neilsen, Lambert, Sergeant, Mountain, Greaves....were they asked? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinderfella Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, HGould said: Bickley is a strange choice? Declined U21 European spot earlier in season. Brennan I get as got in on 6.05 average, Kemp is defending U19 Champion and Home Team rider. I can find 11 British riders with average higher than Bickley and below 6 points. Likes of Shanes, Newman, Morris, Clegg, Neilsen, Lambert, Sergeant, Mountain, Greaves....were they asked? There seems to be a wall of silence over who was asked and if they declined which just undermines British Speedway yet again. Is James Shanes perhaps riding in the World Longtrack in Poland on the Sunday and unlike Bomber decide no to change travel plans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedway28 Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 13 minutes ago, HGould said: Bickley is a strange choice? Declined U21 European spot earlier in season. Brennan I get as got in on 6.05 average, Kemp is defending U19 Champion and Home Team rider. I can find 11 British riders with average higher than Bickley and below 6 points. Likes of Shanes, Newman, Morris, Clegg, Neilsen, Lambert, Sergeant, Mountain, Greaves....were they asked? I’ve seen from numerous discussions that a number of riders haven’t been asked. Clegg, Morris and Nielsen certainly. The line up really should’ve been decided on averages from last season and riders asked in that order. Maybe others have declined, but a bit more transparency wouldn’t be the worst thing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 It seems that selection is influenced by whose face fits, the even more amusing part is that several previous no-hopers are now talking up their chances of going for the title. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
customhouseregular Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 It is proving to be a meaningless title anyway so why would anyone want to put themselves out to complete?. If Woffinden, Lambert, Bewley, Nichols et al were riding the title would have prestige. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sommelier Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 18 hours ago, screm said: Berwick`s Kyle Bickley replaces Dan Bewley who has decided he would rather ride in Poland. Bewley would have no chice, hes on polish duty for Wroclaw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Blue Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 I would imagine that Bewley must have originally said yes or he wouldn't have been in the line-up , only then when named in Poland did he have to withdraw. He would not want to jeopardise any future chance of riding in the Polish league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 25 minutes ago, sommelier said: Bewley would have no chice, hes on polish duty for Wroclaw Bewley was dropped from the Wroclaw team after a couple of weeks earlier in the season, then he was injured. Now back to fitness he accepted an invitation to ride in the British Final, as far as his duty for Wroclaw I`d wait to see if he actually gets a team place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sommelier Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, screm said: Bewley was dropped from the Wroclaw team after a couple of weeks earlier in the season, then he was injured. Now back to fitness he accepted an invitation to ride in the British Final, as far as his duty for Wroclaw I`d wait to see if he actually gets a team place. He was back in the Wroclaw team the other week at Ribnik! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARK246 Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 The Russian championship is being raced today, missing riders are, Sayfutinov, A Laguta, G Laguta and Chugunov, a sign of the times ? The British championship hasn't mattered since the 1990s and the start of the GPs anybody who thinks it does is delusional 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinderfella Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, MARK246 said: The Russian championship is being raced today, missing riders are, Sayfutinov, A Laguta, G Laguta and Chugunov, a sign of the times ? The British championship hasn't mattered since the 1990s and the start of the GPs anybody who thinks it does is delusional Agreed. THE BLRC used to be a meeting to rival the World Final but now riders don't seem to give a toss about it or other representative meetings. Why is that I wonder? Can't be down to (lack of) prize money alone surely? As far as GPs go I've argued for years their introduction started the decline in speedway and I'm of the opinion they should increase the number of rounds and become a separate event leaving riders who wish to concentrate on earning a living from league speedway to do so. GPs undoubtedly caused the problems which caused Eastbourne and Rye House amongst others to drop divisions or close due to so many missed or changed race nights. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 On 9/19/2020 at 10:36 AM, Bavarian said: Never understand this thinking of Yours (and many others in the UK) - how can a British Championship Final ever be meaningless ? This is not a Mickey Mouse trophy event, this is a National Championship. I mean if that does not mean anything to You, what does ? The Wild Card for the British Grand Prix is an additional bonbon for the winner, but is rather meaningless, compared to the title of British Champion. This all kicked off a few years ago when nearly the whole line-up withdrew from the meeting over the pay structure. Unfortunately, national pride hasn't existed for this competition for at least 10 years. The big guns don't get paid enough so don't show Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 33 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: This all kicked off a few years ago when nearly the whole line-up withdrew from the meeting over the pay structure. Unfortunately, national pride hasn't existed for this competition for at least 10 years. The big guns don't get paid enough so don't show greedy fockers ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 (edited) 50 minutes ago, cinderfella said: Agreed. THE BLRC used to be a meeting to rival the World Final The BLRC was a different meeting to the British Championship and, as the line-up was made up of each team's top scorer, it contained many riders not from Britain and at a time when many of the world's leading riders rode in the BL. That's why it rivalled the World Final. Edited September 20, 2020 by norbold 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinderfella Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 1 minute ago, norbold said: The BLRC was a different meeting to the British Championship and, as the line-up was made up of each team's top scorer, it contained many riders not from Britain and at a time when many of the world's leading riders rode in the BL. That's why it rivalled the World Final. Yes thank you but the point I was making is some riders who have finished top of their team's averages don't seemed bothered about the BLRC Title and as such the meeting and others like it don't have the glamour of the past when the winner did beat the best of the rest. Perhaps if the British Championship went back to several rounds of qualifying meetings for all eligible riders with the winner getting the British nomination for the GP Challenge as well as the British GP wild card there would be more prestige to the title. Should the British speedway authorities be ruling you can't compete in World events if you don't participate in the National Title meetings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
customhouseregular Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 11 minutes ago, norbold said: The BLRC was a different meeting to the British Championship and, as the line-up was made up of each team's top scorer, it contained many riders not from Britain and at a time when many of the world's leading riders rode in the BL. That's why it rivalled the World Final. I loved the BLRC... was at the first 6 meetings (The Briggo Show). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 Looking at the scores in the under 19s, Bickley looks a strange inclusion in this event. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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