British final 2020

[OveFundinFan]

Is this possibly going to be the lowest stand of competitors in a British Final?
i don’t want to show disrespect to any of the riders in it, they are having a go at speedway at least, but a British Championship without the current champion, plus the top two Brits and Cookie who is in the top 5 Brits seems a bit of a joke to me. Getting riders to go into a highly promoted event (for British speedway in the year 2020) without having much race practice is a disaster IMO.

And the cost of streaming at £13...... that will probably set the price for British League racing next year if the bigwigs decide to stream it. Personally I was hoping for more like £10, probably attract more people at 10 then 13 quid.

[Bagpuss]

The lineup looks very ordinary, no wonder they want Crump, Batch etc in it to bolster the quality. Need some bigger names to get people to fork out for the overpriced stream.

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8 minutes ago, OveFundinFan said:

Is this possibly going to be the lowest stand of competitors in a British Final?
i don’t want to show disrespect to any of the riders in it, they are having a go at speedway at least, but a British Championship without the current champion, plus the top two Brits and Cookie who is in the top 5 Brits seems a bit of a joke to me. Getting riders to go into a highly promoted event (for British speedway in the year 2020) without having much race practice is a disaster IMO.

And the cost of streaming at £13...... that will probably set the price for British League racing next year if the bigwigs decide to stream it. Personally I was hoping for more like £10, probably attract more people at 10 then 13 quid.

No disrespect intended in your opinion,  but when was the last time Tai and Robert took part, even with this year's current problem?

Howarth missing through injury, Scott I suspect his age plus no riding this year, Cook is probably the venue, no idea on Wright.

Cast your mind back to last year, who was the star of the meeting? Sadly he's not with us now, but a big name he wasn't but he lit up the meeting #Danny Ayres.

[Bagpuss]

I don’t think Robert has missed one before where he has qualified and not been injured? Obviously won it in 2018.

[Bagpuss]

29 minutes ago, Richard Weston said:

All I am interested is in how good the racing is.

The Plymouth 3TT the other week was NDL riders with a few young Championship lads. The racing was close, exciting, got better as the night went on and ended with a last-heat decider which was won in the final yard. Perfect recipe in my book.

This may also mark a changing of the guard --- some of the older riders bowing out and making room for the exciting Young Guns.

Scott was exciting Young Gun and pushed aside others....that's how it works.

Fully respect this but most people are attracted by the better quality riders, and to call it a British final with four top men absent after some Australians in doesn’t seem right. British Open as suggested would have been better, plus a cheaper stream price (I appreciate that’s not as simple as it sounds).

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2 minutes ago, Bagpuss said:

I don’t think Robert has missed one before where he has qualified and not been injured? Obviously won it in 2018.

It was always going to be unlikely that anyone abroad would return here for one meeting 

[cinderfella]

16 minutes ago, OveFundinFan said:

Is this possibly going to be the lowest stand of competitors in a British Final?

I often feel that when I look at the standard of riders in The Scottish Open Championship these days and think of some of the names added to the trophy alongside past world champions.
But I guess competing riders who win events these days do what the masters in the past did too and beat everyone else in the field and be the best on the day.

[foamfence]

34 minutes ago, cinderfella said:

I often feel that when I look at the standard of riders in The Scottish Open Championship these days and think of some of the names added to the trophy alongside past world champions.
But I guess competing riders who win events these days do what the masters in the past did too and beat everyone else in the field and be the best on the day.

That is an open meeting, this is supposed to be for a national title.

[SPEEDY69]

Price is fine for the stream, can't understand the moans. Can't compare to third division at Plymouth, costs way bigger for this event. 

[therefused]

17 minutes ago, SPEEDY69 said:

Price is fine for the stream, can't understand the moans. Can't compare to third division at Plymouth, costs way bigger for this event. 

At least £4 too much 

[Sir Sidney]

40 minutes ago, SPEEDY69 said:

Price is fine for the stream, can't understand the moans. Can't compare to third division at Plymouth, costs way bigger for this event. 

Out of interest, why would the cost to stream be more just because it is from a higher division track? 

[Fromafar]

2 minutes ago, Sir Sidney said:

Out of interest, why would the cost to stream be more just because it is from a higher division track? 

I was also wondering why that would be the case.

[Jonny the spud]

Anyone returning from abroad for this meeting would have to do 14 days quarantine.... hardly worth it for one meeting, especially if it means missing meetings abroad for it. 
 

I’m sorry but this year’s British champ will have a hollow ring to it. I know you can only race what’s in front of you but .... bloody hell, look what’s in front of you. 
 

Stop trying to big it up, accept that 2020 is exceptional and call it the British open. Anyone looking back in years to come will say “ahh. It was the covid year” not a true image of the talent that the uk has at the moment. 
 

I admire the authorities and Ipswich for putting this but please accept it for what it is .... Not a British final. 

[HGould]

9 minutes ago, Fromafar said:

I was also wondering why that would be the case.

Plymouth stream was decent quality and very watchable and some excellent racing. Worth 4 quid and value. Commentator was fun and different. 

Ipswich will no doubt be multi camera and have Pearson and Tatum. More polished and safe. 

Worth 13 quid?? 

We'll have to see. 

[OveFundinFan]

34 minutes ago, Sir Sidney said:

Out of interest, why would the cost to stream be more just because it is from a higher division track? 

For starters........ higher pay per point for orders. Income must cover outgoings plus a profit. If people are not coming through the gate then Alternative incomes need to be found.

Edited September 18, 2020 by OveFundinFan

[SPEEDY69]

38 minutes ago, Sir Sidney said:

Out of interest, why would the cost to stream be more just because it is from a higher division track? 

Wage bill for the event and rental I expect. Some of the stream money will go to the bspa, not that hard to work out surely.?

[Sir Sidney]

1 hour ago, SPEEDY69 said:

Wage bill for the event and rental I expect. Some of the stream money will go to the bspa, not that hard to work out surely.?

A simple , civil, answer would have sufficed . 

I assumed your post meant that the technical costs of streaming were higher, rather than it being to recoup the cost of putting on the British Final it's self (which of course I understand are likely to be higher than the Plymouth meeting ). 

Incidentally,  I don't have an issue about the price of the stream and wasn't moaning about it. 

Edited September 18, 2020 by Sir Sidney

[norbold]

2 hours ago, Jonny the spud said:

 Anyone looking back in years to come will say “ahh. It was the covid year” not a true image of the talent that the uk has at the moment.

In 20/30 years time, I don't think that will be the case at all. Who looks back at the 1973 Wimbledon Final and says "ahh, Kodes only won because most of the top professionals were on strike that year"? or who remembers that for three Olympic Games running (1976, 1980, 1984), there were high level boycotts from countries with real medal winning chances meaning that those who did win weren't necessarily the best in the world? You look at the records now and them's the winners.

[SPEEDY69]

8 hours ago, Sir Sidney said:

A simple , civil, answer would have sufficed . 

I assumed your post meant that the technical costs of streaming were higher, rather than it being to recoup the cost of putting on the British Final it's self (which of course I understand are likely to be higher than the Plymouth meeting ). 

Incidentally,  I don't have an issue about the price of the stream and wasn't moaning about it. 

I wasn't intending to be rude to you so apologies if that's how you read it - there appears many on here questioning the price of the stream and saying it's too high. Cutting 1500 off the gate obviously left them with a sizeable gap to fill. 

[IainB]

11 hours ago, Jonny the spud said:

I’m sorry but this year’s British champ will have a hollow ring to it. I know you can only race what’s in front of you but .... bloody hell, look what’s in front of you. 

Not for me... I would assume that those that aren't riding have been offered the opportunity to ride and have declined. The quality of the line-up has been on the decline for years but as you said yourself you can only race what's in front of you. I can understand the reasoning of those that are riding abroad not to return to the UK for 1 meeting, but Tai wasn't going to ride in it anyway. The one's that do surprise me are Wright & Nicholls... not surprised at all by Cook's non appearance