cityrebel Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 35 minutes ago, mikebv said: 600 (maybe more?), would have been workable at most tracks I would have thought, especially Championship level where crowds of that level are not a million miles away from their actual. Riders probably wouldn't have had their usual money but it would at least have given them regular racing. Seems crackers that Stox can get thousands in the same arenas that Speedway can't have even 'hundreds' in.. Tonight I will sit in a 4500 capacity stadium watching my lad play in the Youth Cup with around 400 to 500 others, with pretty much all social distancing being done by ourselves.. A strange situation.. Bizzare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinderfella Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Fortythirtyeight said: The ‘ Promoters Circus ‘ event will be via Zoom ( if at all ) as can’t have more than six attending. You think the same clowns on the top table that got us here are now going to completely change tactics? Time for a revolution but don’t hold your breath. I won't be lol. I was speaking to a mate the other evening (on-line i may add) and he was talking about various league football teams around the UK saying this pandemic could lead to them going out of business in the next few months due to no spectators. Made me think that considering we constantly hear from speedway promoters of lack of cash that we haven't heard any claims of teams folding yet. I hope that remains the case but either finances aren't as bad as we hear they are or a lid is being kept on things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 17 minutes ago, cinderfella said: I won't be lol. I was speaking to a mate the other evening (on-line i may add) and he was talking about various league football teams around the UK saying this pandemic could lead to them going out of business in the next few months due to no spectators. Made me think that considering we constantly hear from speedway promoters of lack of cash that we haven't heard any claims of teams folding yet. I hope that remains the case but either finances aren't as bad as we hear they are or a lid is being kept on things. Football clubs still have wages to pay and are running matches behind closed doors, the majority of promoters are just biding their time and have no costs (unless they are bound by rental agreements). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortythirtyeight Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 51 minutes ago, foamfence said: Football clubs still have wages to pay and are running matches behind closed doors, the majority of promoters are just biding their time and have no costs (unless they are bound by rental agreements). You think it costs nothing to maintain a stadium / track even without rent ? Even a house with no mortgage has bills to pay! My local clubs costs are around the 25 thousand mark wether they use it or not as they do pay rent and for 12 months not just the 6 that the ‘ season ‘ takes place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinderfella Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, Fortythirtyeight said: You think it costs nothing to maintain a stadium / track even without rent ? Even a house with no mortgage has bills to pay! My local clubs costs are around the 25 thousand mark wether they use it or not as they do pay rent and for 12 months not just the 6 that the ‘ season ‘ takes place. I daresay a few teams are relying on the income from this season's season tickets being carried forward to next season but surely that means there will be a shortfall next season if they are using this season's money to pay these hidden costs now? things will certainly be different and I expect a few teams will be cutting their cloth accordingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 12 minutes ago, Fortythirtyeight said: You think it costs nothing to maintain a stadium / track even without rent ? Even a house with no mortgage has bills to pay! My local clubs costs are around the 25 thousand mark wether they use it or not as they do pay rent and for 12 months not just the 6 that the ‘ season ‘ takes place. That's why I said "the majority." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 I saw that there were several 'other streams' apparently being offered for the Belle Vue meeting last night - don't know if they were all false leads or not but reportedly the quality of the official stream was good, so am looking forward to watching tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortythirtyeight Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 2 hours ago, foamfence said: That's why I said "the majority." And you said “ have no costs “. Every club , even Scunthorpe who have staged the most meetings, have lost money this year with some a hell of a lot more than others. Poor Newcastle’s Rob Grant must have lost a small fortune before he’s even started. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cheese Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 Is there a confirmed line-up for this yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ringitsneck Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, Fortythirtyeight said: And you said “ have no costs “. Every club , even Scunthorpe who have staged the most meetings, have lost money this year with some a hell of a lot more than others. Poor Newcastle’s Rob Grant must have lost a small fortune before he’s even started. I can’t think of ANY club that would have “ no costs “ , even if the whole set up was privately owned ( Scunthorpe, Somerset , Leicester ? ) there are the normal bills, electric, water, maintenance ( although much reduced ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunce Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 Its been tipping it down near Norwich all day, with even parts of my garden flooded, which is unusual. I was debating paying for the live stream tomorrow (although it does seem expensive to me) wondered what happens if the meeting is called off with a waterlogged track? No mention of a refund or rescheduling on the Live Stream web site that I can see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, Bunce said: .....No mention of a refund or rescheduling on the Live Stream web site that I can see. I can't see there being a shortage of suitable restaging dates. It's not like there is a major clash of dates with league matches or anything! Technically, you press the pause button on the stream until the meeting is restaged. Alright, I'll get my coat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinderfella Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 32 minutes ago, The Cheese said: Is there a confirmed line-up for this yet? https://www.keepandshare.com/doc16/25046/british-champs-2020-1-pdf-811k?da=y 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 6 hours ago, False dawn said: .....As to this meeting. I think the addition of "Open" to the name would have been appropriate. It's rapidly becoming my favourite saying, but sometimes you have to "Becareful what you wish for". The word on the street is that the BSPAL have renamed this meeting "The British Open Championship". It went out on Twitter and Bartosz Zmarzlik has applied to take part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinderfella Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 7 minutes ago, False dawn said: It's rapidly becoming my favourite saying, but sometimes you have to "Becareful what you wish for". The word on the street is that the BSPAL have renamed this meeting "The British Open Championship". It went out on Twitter and Bartosz Zmarzlik has applied to take part. Well i suppose with it being at Ippo they could run it as the old 16 lapper handicap and he would still win it by the country mile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, cinderfella said: Well i suppose with it being at Ippo they could run it as the old 16 lapper handicap and he would still win it by the country mile Ah but. Woffy is talking about making the trip now". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badge Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 (edited) Now been moved to belle vue Monday 28th Edited September 25, 2020 by Badge 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 Confirmed taking place Monday at Belle Vue instead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinderfella Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, Badge said: Now been moved to belle vue Monday 28th Got to feel for Chris Louis 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 Just now, cinderfella said: Got to feel for Chris Louis I hope he and Ippo see some money out of this mess 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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