cinderfella Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Baldyman said: Looking at the scores in the under 19s, Bickley looks a strange inclusion in this event. Yes you would have thought it would have been worth while waiting till after today's event and offering the final place to the top rider not already riding. It would have been a nice little incentive probably on a level with the winner of the British Final usually getting the wild card at Cardiff for these young guys/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 49 minutes ago, Baldyman said: Looking at the scores in the under 19s, Bickley looks a strange inclusion in this event. Always been over hyped I think, a CL reserve at best. Palin, Thompsons are jumping ahead now of a few who have been ahead of them in age cycle. Kemp clearly top of his age bracket with Brennan and Palin and the twins a few years younger are catching fast. Gilkes is coming along very quickly a bit off the radar, well managed by Len. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 59 minutes ago, Baldyman said: Looking at the scores in the under 19s, Bickley looks a strange inclusion in this event. Like any invitational, depends who & what you know. "I'll ride for nothing and my Dad is a sponsor...." could easily swing a place if have thought (by the way, I know nothing about Bickley so don't jump on me, just using that as an example.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, HGould said: Always been over hyped I think, a CL reserve at best. Palin, Thompsons are jumping ahead now of a few who have been ahead of them in age cycle. Kemp clearly top of his age bracket with Brennan and Palin and the twins a few years younger are catching fast. Gilkes is coming along very quickly a bit off the radar, well managed by Len. The Thompsons and Palin are 16? With Kemp turning 18 about 6 weeks ago,, looks like Britain could have a decent future. Edited September 20, 2020 by Baldyman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ringitsneck Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 7 hours ago, jenga said: greedy fockers ! Would you risk your life for money that barely covers your expenses to get to work ? Check facts before making idiotic statements. All BSPA events pay peanuts which is why there’s always discontent for those events from riders, most riders lose money if they don’t finish in the top half dozen or win a 4TT or Pairs event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, geoff58 said: kemp the winner is in british final !! They did say the top placed rider not already in it, personally would rather Gilkes be in it than Crump but hey ho 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skydog Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 1 hour ago, HGould said: Always been over hyped I think, a CL reserve at best. Palin, Thompsons are jumping ahead now of a few who have been ahead of them in age cycle. Kemp clearly top of his age bracket with Brennan and Palin and the twins a few years younger are catching fast. Gilkes is coming along very quickly a bit off the radar, well managed by Len. While I have every respect for Len and his years in the sport, Dan has been a great talent since well before he joined Kent. He cleaned up in the development leagues at 16, the NL clubs were queuing up for him. His parents have made sure he takes the right steps at the right time, they deserve the credit for his management. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 Dan Gilkes is a lad that seems to have his head screwed on right too, looks after his supporters and sponsors and willing to take advice 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 12 hours ago, foamfence said: It seems that selection is influenced by whose face fits speedway, nuff said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 3 hours ago, Ringitsneck said: Would you risk your life for money that barely covers your expenses to get to work ? Check facts before making idiotic statements. All BSPA events pay peanuts which is why there’s always discontent for those events from riders, most riders lose money if they don’t finish in the top half dozen or win a 4TT or Pairs event. workington had a rider (sarj) who said he was losing money racing season after season . so it looks like riders do go to ride speedway and not make any money from it . may i just add that a lot of people in work are actually in working poverty . wasnt it the 4tt @ peterborough when a few riders did not show up for the individual meeting because the pay on offer was not good enough , but still rode in the 4tt .. not to worry tho. its only the fans that pay their wages on an even more regular bases ! as for risking life , we all do that when we cross the road or even eat out somewhere ! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 (edited) 41 minutes ago, jenga said: as for risking life Riding speedway is statistically relative safe, if you think how many riders world wide and how many races they ride in what can be a 10-20 year career, the chance of being killed or even long term life threatening injuries is minuscule, it can and does happen but in all competitions over the world how many times a year ??yes injuries in general are common but are seen more as an inconvenience by riders than what the general public see as serious issue, no rider see’s Speedway as risking their life and if they do they are in the wrong game or it’s time to get out but as easy as it is to actually ride speedway, winning and making it pay is another thing entirely Edited September 20, 2020 by THE DEAN MACHINE 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 5 hours ago, Baldyman said: The Thompsons and Palin are 16? With Kemp turning 18 about 6 weeks ago,, looks like Britain could have a decent future. A phrase repeated for the last 20 years. We'll be lucky to get 1 or 2 come through & actually be top class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 6 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: A phrase repeated for the last 20 years. We'll be lucky to get 1 or 2 come through & actually be top class. This is where the nettle needs to be grasped.....have a pathway for them in our top two leagues by stopping the employment of foreign dross at reserve, and get them abroad racing in foreign tracks on a regular basis. Push them, stretch their ability and talent. They need to be getting out of our third division and pushing on ASAP. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 21 hours ago, sommelier said: Bewley would have no chice, hes on polish duty for Wroclaw A national championship always used to trump a league meeting, no matter what country it was in... wouldn't surprise me if some kind of Rathbone/Holder/Torun arrangement was made between BSPL/Bewley/Wroclaw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 1 hour ago, iainb said: A national championship always used to trump a league meeting, no matter what country it was in... wouldn't surprise me if some kind of Rathbone/Holder/Torun arrangement was made between BSPL/Bewley/Wroclaw The Poles don't seem to make deals, in the past riders have even missed meetings to attend compulsory practice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff100 Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 Reading the " do,s and dont's on the bspa website why would anyone bother going to event! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, geoff100 said: Reading the " do,s and dont's on the bspa website why would anyone bother going to event! No different to what we are expected to do in normal life these days. What I don't understand is, though, is why the need for a face covering if you are staying in your group of 6 and you are outdoors? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Blue Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 To a small degree I could understand face coverings if it was an enclosed Grandstand but it's open air. However with eating, drinking, smoking and vaping I can envisage some people won't be wearing their's very much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badge Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 21 minutes ago, Grachan said: No different to what we are expected to do in normal life these days. What I don't understand is, though, is why the need for a face covering if you are staying in your group of 6 and you are outdoors? Because that is the policy that has enabled this event to take place. Just remember this is a test event, and will be closely monitored, and if it's a success you never know we might just get speedway back next season. The hoops that Ipswich are having to jump through for this is unbelievable so please for the sake of the sport please abide by the rules. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sommelier Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 3 hours ago, Bagpuss said: This is where the nettle needs to be grasped.....have a pathway for them in our top two leagues by stopping the employment of foreign dross at reserve, and get them abroad racing in foreign tracks on a regular basis. Push them, stretch their ability and talent. They need to be getting out of our third division and pushing on ASAP. Robert Lambert head hunted by 7 Extraleague Clubs, i hope Chapman as got long arms & deep pockets for him to stay at Lynn. Good luck to Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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