arnieg Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Gambo said: Granted that Belle Vue is a great race-track, but:- How many Pubs/Clubs/Restaurants are within walking distance of Belle Vue? How many Hotels are within walking distance of Belle Vue? How many fast food outlets are within walking distance of Belle Vue? How many Shopping Malls are within walking distance of Belle Vue? How many vast pedestrian areas are within walking distance of Belle Vue? How many Castles and other tourist attractions are within walking distance of Belle Vue? How much cheap University accommodation is available within walking distance of Belle Vue? They all add up to a great weekend's experience. And if you asked those questions about Malilla or Teterow what would be the answers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 hour ago, flagrag said: That depends if the stadium wants the GP back in 2022 as they have already moved so many events over from 2020 and 2021 plus the ones already planned dates may be difficult. It will also depend on how Discovery want to move forward with British GP they may have other ideas and be prepared to gamble on a GP in London MY personal view is that Cardiff will be back. The cost of staging a speedway GP in a stadium without a roof remains prohibitive given the British weather. 23 minutes ago, arnieg said: And if you asked those questions about Malilla or Teterow what would be the answers? THERE is no alternative in Sweden or Germany .... in Britain there is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryW Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 hour ago, arnieg said: And if you asked those questions about Malilla or Teterow what would be the answers? Is that relevant when the post you are replying to is comparing Cardiff to the NSS? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.D Posted April 18, 2021 Report Share Posted April 18, 2021 20 hours ago, Triple.H. said: I doubt if they would have a meltdown, they've come a long way since the fence scraping antics of the young touring teams of the 70s and 80s It wasn't a sensible suggestion but they wouldn't like it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaboy279 Posted April 18, 2021 Report Share Posted April 18, 2021 20 hours ago, Rocket87 said: Lets hope so. Cardiff is pants. Terrible racing, astronomical prices, stadium half empty. Nothing to do in the city. Belle Vue can showcase speedway in a way Cardiff can only dream of. Nothing to do in the city...... we usually arrive on the weds and every year we never get round all the things we planned. For a city centre location food and drink is reasonably priced. Only negative is the inflated accommodation prices, but there are ways around that if you are creative. One tip is if you have a group of 4 or 5 mates is to rent an entire 8 person dorm at a hostel, effectively giving you a private dorm and your own allocated wash facilities. Equally in the early days, going there and back in the day from Kent was always what we did. In your own bed by 2-3am. You can blow a small fortune Cardiff GP week, or you can do it on a shoestring and have an equally good time, I know as I have done it both ways Warsaw for me is now my favorite "adult" GP, and Cardiff the "family" one. Both offer the security of racing whatever the weather as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neila Posted April 18, 2021 Report Share Posted April 18, 2021 Agree about Warsaw, take away flight cost and the weekend is around half the price as Cardiff !! But will Warsaw 2021 take place, personally I have very big doubts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted April 18, 2021 Report Share Posted April 18, 2021 11 minutes ago, Neila said: Agree about Warsaw, take away flight cost and the weekend is around half the price as Cardiff !! But will Warsaw 2021 take place, personally I have very big doubts MY only issue with Warsaw is that it is out of town whereas the Principality is slap bang in the middle of Cardiff and requires just a short walk from bar to stadium 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted April 18, 2021 Report Share Posted April 18, 2021 And even if Teterow was in the town it wouldn’t make much difference from what I have seen of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted April 18, 2021 Report Share Posted April 18, 2021 Will this mean the cancellation of the GP qualifier at Glasgow.....probably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortythirtyeight Posted April 18, 2021 Report Share Posted April 18, 2021 1 hour ago, PHILIPRISING said: MY only issue with Warsaw is that it is out of town whereas the Principality is slap bang in the middle of Cardiff and requires just a short walk from bar to stadium It’s a 15 minute walk , hardly out of town, and they close the motorway to enable you to walk back safely. For me Warsaw is better than Cardiff as you don’t get ripped off by the hoteliers. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted April 18, 2021 Report Share Posted April 18, 2021 13 hours ago, PHILIPRISING said: THERE is no alternative in Sweden or Germany .... in Britain there is. Oh come now... there's suitable roofed stadiums in both of those countries. BSI simply can't leverage enough subsidies to use those venues, so can't make them pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted April 18, 2021 Report Share Posted April 18, 2021 42 minutes ago, Humphrey Appleby said: Oh come now... there's suitable roofed stadiums in both of those countries. BSI simply can't leverage enough subsidies to use those venues, so can't make them pay. PERHAPS I should have said viable alternatives... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R87 Posted April 18, 2021 Report Share Posted April 18, 2021 16 hours ago, Gambo said: Granted that Belle Vue is a great race-track, but:- How many Pubs/Clubs/Restaurants are within walking distance of Belle Vue? How many Hotels are within walking distance of Belle Vue? How many fast food outlets are within walking distance of Belle Vue? How many Shopping Malls are within walking distance of Belle Vue? How many vast pedestrian areas are within walking distance of Belle Vue? How many Castles and other tourist attractions are within walking distance of Belle Vue? How much cheap University accommodation is available within walking distance of Belle Vue? They all add up to a great weekend's experience. And then you spend two hours bored to death by follow the leader garbage. If this is it for Cardiff, then good riddance. It's rubbish, and has been from day one. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor... Posted April 18, 2021 Report Share Posted April 18, 2021 10 minutes ago, Rocket87 said: And then you spend two hours bored to death by follow the leader garbage. If this is it for Cardiff, then good riddance. It's rubbish, and has been from day one. That's simply not true. I think we get it that you don't like the Cardiff Gp and Cardiff itself for whatever reason, but to say it's been follow the leader since day one is guff. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Dodds Posted April 18, 2021 Report Share Posted April 18, 2021 3 hours ago, topaz325 said: Will this mean the cancellation of the GP qualifier at Glasgow.....probably. Wouldn't that be a qualifier for the 2022 GP series? Travel restrictions are more likely to interfere I would have thought. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djr Posted April 18, 2021 Report Share Posted April 18, 2021 Although I have enjoyed the Cardiff GP each time I have gone, I will agree the racing has never been great on each visit As it is a temporary track , does anybody know why a different shaped track or something like different shale couldn't be tried each year ? perhaps copy the shape of a track known for good racing, there seems to be plenty of room. they effectively have a blank canvas every year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted April 18, 2021 Report Share Posted April 18, 2021 8 minutes ago, djr said: Although I have enjoyed the Cardiff GP each time I have gone, I will agree the racing has never been great on each visit As it is a temporary track , does anybody know why a different shaped track or something like different shale couldn't be tried each year ? perhaps copy the shape of a track known for good racing, there seems to be plenty of room. they effectively have a blank canvas every year It's up to the new promoters from next year isn't it ........... I'm hoping that they just pick all the best tracks for a smaller series Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted April 18, 2021 Report Share Posted April 18, 2021 1 hour ago, djr said: Although I have enjoyed the Cardiff GP each time I have gone, I will agree the racing has never been great on each visit As it is a temporary track , does anybody know why a different shaped track or something like different shale couldn't be tried each year ? perhaps copy the shape of a track known for good racing, there seems to be plenty of room. they effectively have a blank canvas every year ACTUALLY there are limitations on the size and shape of the track that can be installed... for many and especially those who return year after year it is the occasion, the atmosphere and the whole day that combines to make it special. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted April 18, 2021 Report Share Posted April 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Trees said: It's up to the new promoters from next year isn't it ........... I'm hoping that they just pick all the best tracks for a smaller series THEY gave the FIM a commitment that they would increase the number of SGPs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djr Posted April 18, 2021 Report Share Posted April 18, 2021 55 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said: ACTUALLY there are limitations on the size and shape of the track that can be installed... for many and especially those who return year after year it is the occasion, the atmosphere and the whole day that combines to make it special. Agree with everything you are saying regarding - atmosphere/ occasion etc. , BUT there are still plenty of empty seats every year , that perhaps a better track would help to fill. It's no good being in denial about the poor racing at Cardiff , it's the only real fault with the whole event, and surely the track could be tweaked to try and improve things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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