Swedish Elitserien 2020

[RS50]

Is it just me or have a lot of the races shown recently on Premier frozen, then suddenly fast forwarded? And why do the bikes sound so quiet?

[RobMcCaffery]

43 minutes ago, RS50 said:

Is it just me or have a lot of the races shown recently on Premier frozen, then suddenly fast forwarded? And why do the bikes sound so quiet?

There was a lot of freezing and picture break-up and yes background sound was poor. All they can do is take what they are given by Swedish TV. In the same way the desperately poor graphics are Sweden's responsibility and Dave is quite right to despair at them. 

They're only rarely showing changes in heats nor the line-ups for the nominated races, apart from occasionally the gate positions, but no helmet colours in the pits.

As Dave points out the standard team kevlars means he often has to rely on a lucky glimpse of the back of a race jacket or overhearing the stadium announcer. It's only once the riders hit the first bend that you can usually spot the changes which is no good for a commentator. He needs better information. There's not the same problem with Poland where the graphics are normally reliably updated whenever there's a rider change. 

The Swedes are leaving any rider who's being covered by rider-replacement in the heat lineups! No wonder he's getting frustrated. 

Edited September 24, 2020 by RobMcCaffery

[f-s-p]

3 hours ago, Ghostwalker said:

He's right though. Poland shouldn't have been allowed to stage this on a Tuesday since Tuesdays are reserved for Sweden.
 But Poland is Poland and they don't give a damn about any other country/league.

With covid I dont think the old agreements stand this season. Even without covid, I doubt they stand anymore.

Edited September 24, 2020 by f-s-p

[Najjer]

1 hour ago, RS50 said:

Is it just me or have a lot of the races shown recently on Premier frozen, then suddenly fast forwarded? And why do the bikes sound so quiet?

Last night was the first Swedish match I’ve watched all season. It’s coverage is rubbish compared to the stream of the Polish league matches. As you rightly say, you could barely hear the bikes at all last night.

[RS50]

14 hours ago, RobMcCaffery said:

There was a lot of freezing and picture break-up and yes background sound was poor. All they can do is take what they are given by Swedish TV. In the same way the desperately poor graphics are Sweden's responsibility and Dave is quite right to despair at them. 

They're only rarely showing changes in heats nor the line-ups for the nominated races, apart from occasionally the gate positions, but no helmet colours in the pits.

As Dave points out the standard team kevlars means he often has to rely on a lucky glimpse of the back of a race jacket or overhearing the stadium announcer. It's only once the riders hit the first bend that you can usually spot the changes which is no good for a commentator. He needs better information. There's not the same problem with Poland where the graphics are normally reliably updated whenever there's a rider change. 

The Swedes are leaving any rider who's being covered by rider-replacement in the heat lineups! No wonder he's getting frustrated. 

Thanks for the info. Is Dave actually at the meetings, or is he just watching it on a TV screen like us?

[Shockster]

14 hours ago, RobMcCaffery said:

There was a lot of freezing and picture break-up and yes background sound was poor. All they can do is take what they are given by Swedish TV. In the same way the desperately poor graphics are Sweden's responsibility and Dave is quite right to despair at them. 

They're only rarely showing changes in heats nor the line-ups for the nominated races, apart from occasionally the gate positions, but no helmet colours in the pits.

As Dave points out the standard team kevlars means he often has to rely on a lucky glimpse of the back of a race jacket or overhearing the stadium announcer. It's only once the riders hit the first bend that you can usually spot the changes which is no good for a commentator. He needs better information. There's not the same problem with Poland where the graphics are normally reliably updated whenever there's a rider change. 

The Swedes are leaving any rider who's being covered by rider-replacement in the heat lineups! No wonder he's getting frustrated. 

I've actually told Dave to have BET365 (not promoting betting) in play screen open. I believe they get the info early about rider changes and it updates as they are betting on who wins the races.

[Shockster]

10 minutes ago, RS50 said:

Thanks for the info. Is Dave actually at the meetings, or is he just watching it on a TV screen like us?

He's not at the meetings.  Assume he's in a studio.

[Dave Goddard]

Yes, my international comms are UK studio based.  There are comprehensive updates on Polish racing via Sportowefakty, but for Sweden I don't have anything.

[racers and royals]

11 minutes ago, Dave Goddard said:

Yes, my international comms are UK studio based.  There are comprehensive updates on Polish racing via Sportowefakty, but for Sweden I don't have anything.

The confirmed line-ups pages i list for looking at after 5.30pm- these also double as the live updates. There is a particular problem regarding R/R - where they do not indicate it’s use before the start. However in Zmarzlik’s case on Tuesday they wrote it at the top of the page, hence why i was able to post it at 5.49pm

Edited September 25, 2020 by racers and royals

[IainB]

20 hours ago, racers and royals said:

Don’t be so thick !!!!!  

 

18 hours ago, racers and royals said:

you are a prize idiot 

come on racers and royals, don't be so rude

16 hours ago, RS50 said:

Is it just me or have a lot of the races shown recently on Premier frozen, then suddenly fast forwarded? And why do the bikes sound so quiet?

not just you

[Shockster]

1 hour ago, Shockster said:

I've actually told Dave to have BET365 (not promoting betting) in play screen open. I believe they get the info early about rider changes and it updates as they are betting on who wins the races.

 

1 hour ago, Dave Goddard said:

Yes, my international comms are UK studio based.  There are comprehensive updates on Polish racing via Sportowefakty, but for Sweden I don't have anything.

Dave see above. Message me if you need more info

[RobMcCaffery]

SVEMO used to have a comprehensive live update service for each match. Is that still running?

I think Sportowe Fakty also run updates on Swedish matches. 

 

Edited September 25, 2020 by RobMcCaffery

[Najjer]

7 hours ago, RobMcCaffery said:

SVEMO used to have a comprehensive live update service for each match. Is that still running?

I think Sportowe Fakty also run updates on Swedish matches. 

 

Sportowefakty carry updates of Swedish matches but don’t give details of any changes until after the races have happened.

[Ghostwalker]

On 9/25/2020 at 12:53 PM, RobMcCaffery said:

SVEMO used to have a comprehensive live update service for each match. Is that still running?

I think Sportowe Fakty also run updates on Swedish matches.

Well that is what @racers and royals post links to for every round.

https://www.svemo.se/Sporter/Speedway/tavling/dagenstavlingar/

Edited September 27, 2020 by Ghostwalker

[racers and royals]

Premliniary line-ups for tomorrow`s matches

Vastervik v Indianerna TV match

Vastervik

1 Masters

2 Sundstrom

3 Mads Hansen

4 A Laguta - R/R- all can take a ride

5 Doyle

6 Karlsson

7 Wahlqvist

 

Indianerna

1 NKI

2 J Andersson

3 Aspgren

4 Fricke

5 Jeppesen

6 L Lindgren

7 J Grahn

 

Lejonen v Masarna

Lejonen

1 Klindt

2 Thornblom

3 Gala

4 Tungate

5 Lambert

6 Eklof

7 C Hendriksson

 

Masarna

1 Lindback

2 Berge

3 Pedersen

4 Prem Pawlicki

5 Nilsson

6 Bellego

7 Liljekvist

  

 

Edited September 28, 2020 by racers and royals

[Ghostwalker]

Thursday's team will be interesting. Masarna may have as many as 5 riders missing. 

[Dave Goddard]

18 hours ago, Ghostwalker said:

Well that is what @racers and royals post links to for every round.

https://www.svemo.se/Sporter/Speedway/tavling/dagenstavlingar/

That doesn't show lineup changes until after a race is completed, which is sometimes the problem for me.

Edited September 28, 2020 by Dave Goddard

[Mark]

39 minutes ago, Dave Goddard said:

That doesn't show lineup changes until after a race is completed, which is sometimes the problem for me.

There must be someone at each track that would work with you via whasapp or text on race day.     Every club must have a press officer.  

Edited September 28, 2020 by Mark

[racers and royals]

48 minutes ago, Dave Goddard said:

That doesn't show lineup changes until after a race is completed, which is sometimes the problem for me.

Easily sorted -take out the ESS play subscription and listen to the Swedish commentary team who always seem to know the changes despite the caption showing otherwise- so you would have the producer in one ear, ESS play in the other and talking at the same time to the viewers- simple 

[Ghostwalker]

2 hours ago, Dave Goddard said:

That doesn't show lineup changes until after a race is completed, which is sometimes the problem for me.

It does if you click on "Visa alla heat inklusive omstarter", however Svemo results pages are a bit slow so it might be too late anyway sometimes.