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17 hours ago, Flappy said:

To fit in with the dads army theme who's the oldest riders on the speedway circuit this year?

Charlie Venegas is still racing in the USA, aged 54.
He was around a 5 and a half point man last time he raced here a few years back in 97. Surely must have improved with all the extra experience since then :rolleyes:
Or there's Bart Bast who is the same age. He was only a 5 point man last time he was over in 89...but that's even more years of experience since his last UK spell so possibly an absolute bargain average :D

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1 hour ago, HenryW said:

Charlie Venegas is still racing in the USA, aged 54.
He was around a 5 and a half point man last time he raced here a few years back in 97. Surely must have improved with all the extra experience since then :rolleyes:
Or there's Bart Bast who is the same age. He was only a 5 point man last time he was over in 89...but that's even more years of experience since his last UK spell so possibly an absolute bargain average :D

You've overlooked Eddie Castro (aged 61) who is still a regular (including Ventura last Saturday).

 

Rune Holta (48 tomorrow) is probably the oldest who is racing at a serious professional level

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1 hour ago, arnieg said:

Rune Holta (48 tomorrow) is probably the oldest who is racing at a serious professional level

Yeah, he's got Piotr Protasiewicz by a couple of years...

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1 minute ago, scoobydoo said:

If Palin was to miss next weeks meetings against Ipswich who can guest as the RS does it have to be another 1* as Peterborough started the season 0.99 under the permitted team limit , 

If it is a broken collarbone for Palin I would say that Panthers may look at making a signing, Unfortunately the two best 1* options Dan Gilkes and Dan Thompson are unlikely to want to join Peterborough as they would have to drop the NL with both their teams still in with a chance of winning the league 

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34 minutes ago, scoobydoo said:

If Palin was to miss next weeks meetings against Ipswich who can guest as the RS does it have to be another 1* as Peterborough started the season 0.99 under the permitted team limit , 

Just officially sign a 3 or 4* option ......

I would suggest Josh Bates and then just use any guest you want ;)

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I would have said signing a rider knowing he won’t turn out for you and getting facility wouldn’t be allowed, but then I remembered Nicoli Klindt. 

The other ray of light is rules could be set, re-written, then re-written again all within the space of a few weeks. The final re-write may benefit you? 

The final ray of light is they could just set a rule but make an exception for Peterborough as they have done with the tyres. 

 

As an aside does anyone know how we are doing attracting more fans and big ticket sponsors?

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1 hour ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said:

Just officially sign a 3 or 4* option ......

I would suggest Josh Bates and then just use any guest you want ;)

I read the regulations that any RS rider can guest for Jordan, not just a 1* rider.

From 12.3.1 In the event a Rising Star is absent, with a facility permitted, he can be replaced by;
i. any guest rider from the Rising Star list, of that teams initial permitted Team Declaration rating or below

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5 minutes ago, NeilWatson said:

I read the regulations that any RS rider can guest for Jordan, not just a 1* rider.

From 12.3.1 In the event a Rising Star is absent, with a facility permitted, he can be replaced by;
i. any guest rider from the Rising Star list, of that teams initial permitted Team Declaration rating or below

I read that as he can only be replaced by a 1* guest?

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3 minutes ago, Noodles said:

I read that as he can only be replaced by a 1* guest?

In the Championship you can use a 3* rising star to replace a missing 1*, as long as you had space to fit a 3* in your original team declaration.

Several teams have taken advantage of this during the year.

Obviously, this being speedway, it doesn't mean that rules will be the same in the higher league.

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7 minutes ago, Noodles said:

I read that as he can only be replaced by a 1* guest?

…that teams initial permitted Team Declaration rating… 

Peterborough were permitted to choose a 4* RS rider initially, but chose not to.

Like so many rules, open to interpretation

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2 minutes ago, HenryW said:

In the Championship you can use a 3* rising star to replace a missing 1*, as long as you had space to fit a 3* in your original team declaration.

Several teams have taken advantage of this during the year.

Obviously, this being speedway, it doesn't mean that rules will be the same in the higher league.

Panthers have never had any favours by MC so if palins out for a few weeks don’t expect them to gain from it 

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6 minutes ago, NeilWatson said:

…that teams initial permitted Team Declaration rating… 

Peterborough were permitted to choose a 4* RS rider initially, but chose not to.

Like so many rules, open to interpretation

Ah I see l, thanks for that. So we can have a guest or sign a replacement up to 4*? 

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1 hour ago, ouch said:

I would have said signing a rider knowing he won’t turn out for you and getting facility wouldn’t be allowed, but then I remembered Nicoli Klindt. 

The other ray of light is rules could be set, re-written, then re-written again all within the space of a few weeks. The final re-write may benefit you? 

The final ray of light is they could just set a rule but make an exception for Peterborough as they have done with the tyres. 

 

As an aside does anyone know how we are doing attracting more fans and big ticket sponsors?

Poole got a facility for a rider who hadnt even ridden in the Uk before and eventually was replaced again but thats Pooles set of rules not everyone elses

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35 minutes ago, NeilWatson said:

…that teams initial permitted Team Declaration rating… 

Peterborough were permitted to choose a 4* RS rider initially, but chose not to.

Like so many rules, open to interpretation

Indeed and in this case 1 rule covering 2 leagues that had differing criteria in team composition!!

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1 hour ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said:

Indeed and in this case 1 rule covering 2 leagues that had differing criteria in team composition!!

It appears they have, I have been told this afternoon we can use any rising star to replace Palin ( should it be needed) 

Mr Watson was indeed correct.

 

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