allthegearbutnaeidea Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 14 hours ago, Bandit59 said: Does that mean Gap becomes the 3rd heat leader? 3rd heat leader? We don’t have 1 never mind 3 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 16 hours ago, Normski said: and finally (secretly) Flint moves in to the main body 1-5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 41 minutes ago, IronScorpion said: and finally (secretly) Flint moves in to the main body 1-5 The rising star idea seemed to be a good one at the start of the season, sadly as so many good ideas speedway has its be screwed. If our rule makers are serious about promoting young British riders then their rising star averages should be protected, in fact personally I would go further, I would like both reserves to be British Under-21 riders with their averages protected until they reach 21. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 Yes. Leon & Dan T are going to be very busy under the Rising Star scheme having 5+ & 6+ averages respectively guesting as a RS & not under their true average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinBSN Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 25 minutes ago, IronScorpion said: Yes. Leon & Dan T are going to be very busy under the Rising Star scheme having 5+ & 6+ averages respectively guesting as a RS & not under their true average. Palin in the mix too with 5.5ish! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 Is that how high he is? Wow. Is it only promoters, managers or club personnel privy to Rising Star averages as they are nowhere to be found on Speedwaygb or SGB websites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinBSN Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, IronScorpion said: Is that how high he is? Wow. Is it only promoters, managers or club personnel privy to Rising Star averages as they are nowhere to be found on Speedwaygb or SGB websites. It doesn't appear that they're putting them out publicly. There's a handful of the rising stars with averages on the GB speedway website but not others for some reason http://www.gbspeedway.com/2021/riderperf.php?mc1=x&mc2=x&mc3=pf&mc4=x&rider=Jordan Palin&league=B&sort=date&comp=CMA&club=Scunthorpe Scorpions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 34 minutes ago, IronScorpion said: Is that how high he is? Wow. Is it only promoters, managers or club personnel privy to Rising Star averages as they are nowhere to be found on Speedwaygb or SGB websites. Strange situation but nothing new in this sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 8 hours ago, screm said: The rising star idea seemed to be a good one at the start of the season, sadly as so many good ideas speedway has its be screwed. If our rule makers are serious about promoting young British riders then their rising star averages should be protected, in fact personally I would go further, I would like both reserves to be British Under-21 riders with their averages protected until they reach 21. That would mean 2 years ago, you couple had Robert Lambert & Dan Bewley as your reserves! Would staying at reserve be best for their progress! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 24 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: That would mean 2 years ago, you couple had Robert Lambert & Dan Bewley as your reserves! Would staying at reserve be best for their progress! Doesn’t stop the Poles doing it, not as if they’ve been struggling to produce good quality riders in the past 20 years or so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo95 Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 hour ago, allthegearbutnaeidea said: Doesn’t stop the Poles doing it, not as if they’ve been struggling to produce good quality riders in the past 20 years or so The last time I looked Miskowiak was 2nd in the Czestochowa averages but still riding at reserve. No thoughts either way about keeping riders at reserve all season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinh88 Posted July 29, 2021 Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 (edited) Be interesting to see how Leon does when he moves into the main team? Furthermore if Leon finishes as well as he started, does he stay with Berwick, potentially carrying the team or does he look elsewhere to maximize his development? Edited July 29, 2021 by Robinh88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted July 29, 2021 Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 5 hours ago, szkocjasid said: That would mean 2 years ago, you couple had Robert Lambert & Dan Bewley as your reserves! Would staying at reserve be best for their progress! But that doesn't happen every year where you have riders of that calibre at reserve, if Belle Vue or Kings Lynn chose to they could put Bewley and Lambert into their top five and introduce another Under-21 rider at reserve. But to answer your question yes Lambert and Bewley could stay at reserve until they reached twenty two, and no I don`t think it be holding them back as they be betting extra races every week against top five riders and more time in the bikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted July 29, 2021 Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 13 hours ago, Robinh88 said: Be interesting to see how Leon does when he moves into the main team? Furthermore if Leon finishes as well as he started, does he stay with Berwick, potentially carrying the team or does he look elsewhere to maximize his development? Don't see any reason for Leon to leave Berwick unless he is racing full time in Prem & abroad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emilali Posted July 29, 2021 Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 13 hours ago, Robinh88 said: Be interesting to see how Leon does when he moves into the main team? Furthermore if Leon finishes as well as he started, does he stay with Berwick, potentially carrying the team or does he look elsewhere to maximize his development? Realistically given how shambolic British Speedway is as a whole these days whereabouts would be dramatically more beneficial for his development? Are you suggesting a season at say Edinburgh or Newcastle to help him get the setup for Rybniks away fixture at Bydgoszcz next year? For me if he has serious ambitions of doing anything in the sport he should be using Lambert and Bewley as very recent inspirations and be attempting to follow in their footsteps. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyHonestJohn Posted July 29, 2021 Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 12 minutes ago, emilali said: Realistically given how shambolic British Speedway is as a whole these days whereabouts would be dramatically more beneficial for his development? Are you suggesting a season at say Edinburgh or Newcastle to help him get the setup for Rybniks away fixture at Bydgoszcz next year? For me if he has serious ambitions of doing anything in the sport he should be using Lambert and Bewley as very recent inspirations and be attempting to follow in their footsteps. Aye send him to Newcastle we will look after him and its not like we don't need the help... Honestly his Dad and Granddad will be able to give him all the advice he needs and to be fair Leon is a level headed kid I'm sure he will be able to make his own mind up as to where his future lies and what he needs to do and where he needs to go to best suit his career progression... Although two seasons at Brough for Rob Lambert didn't hurt now did they... just saying like... Regards THJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted July 29, 2021 Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 If I was him, I’d go to Edinburgh or Glasgow, still local enough, but much better clubs for rider progression/success and away from his home town safety blanket, although I hope he stays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyHonestJohn Posted July 29, 2021 Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 15 minutes ago, allthegearbutnaeidea said: If I was him, I’d go to Edinburgh or Glasgow, still local enough, but much better clubs for rider progression/success and away from his home town safety blanket, although I hope he stays I think the idea being promoted was for him to go to a "Trick Track" or to give it another less abusive name a more "Technical Track" hence why Edinburgh and Newcastle were mentioned... Since Steve Lawson went up to Glasgow to iron out the big dipper into bend 3 and the other minor gremlins Glasgow now have a strip they can be rightly proud of... it wasn't a bad track to start with per se however that little extra TLC put in by Steve has made it into one of the top half dozen tracks in the country at the minute IMHO... so maybe not offering the technical aspect that may be lacking in young Leon's repertoire... Regards THJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Normski Posted July 29, 2021 Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 17 minutes ago, TotallyHonestJohn said: I think the idea being promoted was for him to go to a "Trick Track" or to give it another less abusive name a more "Technical Track" hence why Edinburgh and Newcastle were mentioned... Since Steve Lawson went up to Glasgow to iron out the big dipper into bend 3 and the other minor gremlins Glasgow now have a strip they can be rightly proud of... it wasn't a bad track to start with per se however that little extra TLC put in by Steve has made it into one of the top half dozen tracks in the country at the minute IMHO... so maybe not offering the technical aspect that may be lacking in young Leon's repertoire... Regards THJ Wolverhampton quite a technical track so best of both worlds, Technical track in Premiership, Flat out track in Championship 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emilali Posted July 29, 2021 Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 1 hour ago, TotallyHonestJohn said: I think the idea being promoted was for him to go to a "Trick Track" or to give it another less abusive name a more "Technical Track" hence why Edinburgh and Newcastle were mentioned... Since Steve Lawson went up to Glasgow to iron out the big dipper into bend 3 and the other minor gremlins Glasgow now have a strip they can be rightly proud of... it wasn't a bad track to start with per se however that little extra TLC put in by Steve has made it into one of the top half dozen tracks in the country at the minute IMHO... so maybe not offering the technical aspect that may be lacking in young Leon's repertoire... Regards THJ My point was more if the lad hopes to go on and achieve anything meaningful within the sport that’s going to be in Poland. For me I therefore don’t see any great need to go to a more technical track. If he’s good enough he isn’t going to ride technical tracks at the top level. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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